devildog1679

This may sound like a weird request but I need some help from all you fine people on this forum. I am doing a marketing plan for one of my classes. I need to come up with a product and market it. Well I decided on a turbo or supercharger for the 8 as my product. The first step is to do some research and analysis and the best way to do this is to get input from my target market (you guys). I have very and I mean very limited knowledge on what goes along with a turbo or supercharger, but for the purposes of this project I am a rotary/turbo guru. So my question to you all is what would your ultimate turbo kit come with? What material would each part be made from? What would be an optimum price for the kit? What would be your expectations from the kit? The same questions for the supercharger apply. I thank you all in advance for you help

TeamRX8

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LOL, just make big promises and talk knowledgable , the leg humpers will come a runnin'

BlueRenesis82

my ultimate turbo kit would come with a ball bearing gt35, some nice water/alch injection, upgraded fuel management, a nice v mount and maybe better injectors
i would prefer 5k, however 8 is much more realistic

shaunv74

My thinking is you want to price it at $40/hp. That would be competitive. So if it's a 200hp increase it should be no more than 8K.

The rotary doesn't have much for low end so ideally you want something that is going to substantially punch up the low end (2500-5000rpm) but still have the rising acceleration that is consistent with the rotary engine dynamics.

Most of the piggyback EMU's have compromises. The ideal engine management would be to reprogram the factory ECU like the Cobb tuning unit.

I've given you my market requirements. I'll leave the component specifics up to you to research and come up with a package.

paulmasoner

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did Teamrx8 just burn team leg hump??

dream kit.. response of a good twin screw.. efficiency of a latham style s/c.. non-constant and non-linear boost(6lbs at 2K rpms, 7lbs at 3K rpms, 10lbs at 4Krpms etc).... meth injected... re plumbing(and a different freon would have to be used me thinks) of the A/C compressor to create an A/C powered intercooler(for even cooler charge temps on top of good efficiency and meth) total weight under 30-35lbs... stealth quiet( i mean a f*ucking ninja couldnt hear this thing coming) potential to make 450WHP+ on a very mild very safe tune in say... i dunno maybe a RENISIS? oh and all the drivetrain required to keep this thing together and on the ground... for the conservative price of.."whatever you have left over from 2 combined paychecks" floating scales are great!

not at all a totally feasible idea, but whatever

devildog1679

Thank you all for your responses I must admit some of the parts you talked about I don't understand but I will do a goggle on them. I already looked up in how stuff works and got some good info. keep the ideas flowing. Is it safe to assume that any turbo/SC kit would be better if it came with a piggyback unit? I assume that not everyone buying a kit like this will be racing all the time or pushing it hard all the time. Is it possible to have a unit that is adjustable on the run? Meaning you hit a switch and changes boost from 6psi to 12psi along with all other fuel adjustments necessary? I will be placing a marketing survey up here soon, if you could all fill it out and e-mail it to me it would be great, its all part of my project. Thanks.

BlueRenesis82

yes

yes

will do!

devildog1679

Thanks Blue, you want to hear something funny. After I signed up for the April Road America track day I realized that Saturday was my last day of class I need to give a group and a individual presentation . I told the professor I had a business trip so know I have to video tape the presentation. There is no way I was missing out on RA Anyway thanks for the help this project is going to be a bitch.

Gambit

start here

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/turbo.htm

devildog1679

I already checked that site out. Thanks anyway

RedSheDevil

haha, what dedication to the track ... so impressive grasshoppah!

devildog1679

Hey in life you need to get your priority's straight

devildog1679

I need more participation please, my grade depends on it.

kartweb

The rest of the car, along with a warrantee from Mazda.

BlueRenesis82

what else do you need?

california style

in my opinion (and I think this reflects RL so far, in aftermarket SC + turbo production) a reliable p"plug n play" tuning solution needs to come with any forced induction.

Most customers want something they can add to the engine "all in" and not have to worry about tuning, detonation and getting new engines.

Obviously some people are keen pro or am tuners and love the vibe and challenge of custom tuning and fitting, but to get a real broad market you need to make your solution very easy to fit (ie in ECU terms, not just in actual bolt on terms, but that too...ie it needs to fit in the engine bay easily without moving alltypes of stuff around), and very reliable.

Hope this helps?

devildog1679

That would be nice wouldn't it.

devildog1679

Just different input from different people. I'm planning on submitting everyone's comments (don't worry name will be given) as part of my initial research and development stage, so the more input I have the better. The survey which I am working on is more for background info. Just want to add that you have all been very helpful, this is one project I'm going to have fun doing, minus the 25 pg report

devildog1679

Sure does, thanks. I also agree with all your comments. If I ever go FI it would need to be a system that I can handle on my own, no need for extensive tunning.

BlueRenesis82

supercharging is much more like that than turbos. plus since you have a belt driven SC, you really dont ever have to worry about overboosting.

california style

yeah, yet another reason I am pro supercharger....

XRX8X

Well jaguar has a SC with on/off capability and i personally think the car w/out it runs fairly good w/out it but it would be the best hook-up any rx8 owner could get used to having a SC on the fly.with all this techno going on in and around the whole h.p. issues we need some answer's but in time some super math guy or girl will come up with the right mix we can live with!

devildog1679

Words of truth.

mdw1000

No CELs would be something good to consider too.

devildog1679

LOL