View Poll Results: Which would you chose
Racing Beat res $355
10
27.78%
Rotary Performance Supercat $395
1
2.78%
Black halo racing res base $450
20
55.56%
None of the above $???
5
13.89%
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So many Mids, so little time
02-02-2011, 08:48 PM
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So many Mids, so little time
After doing so soul searching... I've narrowed it down to three mid-pipes that fit my range. So far the main concerns are
1: Price
2: Sound quality
3: Life quality, how long it will survive (estimate)
4: Loudness
Im looking for opinions from people that have maybe used or even seen these pipes used. Any info to help sway my mind helps. I'll be running stock exhaust for a while after I get this but afterwards I'll be switching over to the REV8. One thing I don't want much of is the drone everyone talks about. That and the obnoxious loudness of like the AP are one thing I don't really want. Considering in Cali every cop is dieing to pull anything that sounds aftermarket over. Any kind of opinions help and yes I've seen plenty setups on youtube but I want to hear from those that have actually heard these babies in use
1: Price
2: Sound quality
3: Life quality, how long it will survive (estimate)
4: Loudness
Im looking for opinions from people that have maybe used or even seen these pipes used. Any info to help sway my mind helps. I'll be running stock exhaust for a while after I get this but afterwards I'll be switching over to the REV8. One thing I don't want much of is the drone everyone talks about. That and the obnoxious loudness of like the AP are one thing I don't really want. Considering in Cali every cop is dieing to pull anything that sounds aftermarket over. Any kind of opinions help and yes I've seen plenty setups on youtube but I want to hear from those that have actually heard these babies in use
02-02-2011, 10:57 PM
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i'd say the BHR is best, but the Racing Beat Midpipe is a close competitor. i would stick between those two over anything else, then it just becomes a decision if you want to pay $95 more for the BHR. your money, your choice, you wont go wrong with either
i have the Racing Beat, if you're ever up in the Dublin/Livermore area you're always welcome to check mine out
i have the Racing Beat, if you're ever up in the Dublin/Livermore area you're always welcome to check mine out
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02-03-2011, 12:09 AM
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Well I guess I've narrowed it down to two then, BHR or RB. Money isn't a factor between these, I could always just save more for the later. Sound quality and noise is what I want to know about now it seems. I might take you up on that offer two zero two. I'll be heading to San Fran in a few if all goes well.
02-03-2011, 12:36 AM
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02-03-2011, 12:01 PM
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Probably going to go the cheaper route on them if i decide to go there. Not sure how much life is in my own cat( already getting funky smells) but it should suffice after i drop it. Definitely going to keep the old one as a souvenir
02-03-2011, 08:19 PM
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ummmm would you elaborate more on the differences?
how much power increase could one expect with a midpipe anyways, 5? 10?
i thought the stock catalytic converter's not taking any power away and apparently jeff said the midpipe don't matter to the tune.. so where's the power coming from by gonig for a midpipe?
or is it all just for the noise and sound tweaks...
i'm getting confused
how much power increase could one expect with a midpipe anyways, 5? 10?
i thought the stock catalytic converter's not taking any power away and apparently jeff said the midpipe don't matter to the tune.. so where's the power coming from by gonig for a midpipe?
or is it all just for the noise and sound tweaks...
i'm getting confused
02-03-2011, 11:57 PM
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My concern was over the direction this thread might have been heading, as I did not want anyone from BHR to become involved and redirect the discussion or the topic. It seems like most the time any one of us from BHR becomes involved in a thread it gets jacked and off-topic pretty quick. I did not want that to happen here.
Bottom line; both the BHR and RB midpipes are pretty sweet but there are a couple design differences between them that I believe are crucial and may be the deciding factors for some looking at them both.
Bottom line; both the BHR and RB midpipes are pretty sweet but there are a couple design differences between them that I believe are crucial and may be the deciding factors for some looking at them both.
Its quite alright really, if it were to get off topic more people would be responding, leading more to see this thread, also leading to more votes. Poll is what keeps this together
Besides that most threads tend to fix themselves in due time.By all means throw out some differences. Like I stated, opinions is what I'm after. What better opinion of a product, than from those that make said product. Biased? Slightly but who cares. You guys make em so you should know both strong and weak points to em. This thread is open to everyone, let the floodgates open
ummmm would you elaborate more on the differences?
how much power increase could one expect with a midpipe anyways, 5? 10?
i thought the stock catalytic converter's not taking any power away and apparently jeff said the midpipe don't matter to the tune.. so where's the power coming from by gonig for a midpipe?
or is it all just for the noise and sound tweaks...
i'm getting confused
how much power increase could one expect with a midpipe anyways, 5? 10?
i thought the stock catalytic converter's not taking any power away and apparently jeff said the midpipe don't matter to the tune.. so where's the power coming from by gonig for a midpipe?
or is it all just for the noise and sound tweaks...
i'm getting confused
02-04-2011, 01:29 AM
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02-04-2011, 02:07 AM
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Hmm I haven't thought about it yet maybe I'll like it 
haha seriously I've thought this out. I'm going to get one, now if you have any specs or opinions about a pipe please do chime in otherwise stop trying to convince me out of it 
haha seriously I've thought this out. I'm going to get one, now if you have any specs or opinions about a pipe please do chime in otherwise stop trying to convince me out of it
02-04-2011, 12:15 PM
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The differences between the two midpipes involves the resonators each of them uses. Both pipes are equally quiet but BHR's uses only one resonator. Our's also has no internal packing so the tone will not change over time. Our resonator is a bit smaller to reduce the fitment/weight concern, as well.
Power increases are generally left to the host engine's condition (largely comopression-based), but most midpipes in the 3" range typically glean between 5-8 h.p. The factory midpipe is 2.5"-2.6". Most power increases are going to arise from simply reducing pumping losses.
Jeff/MazdaManiac's comment was meant to say that improving the exhaust flow does not require a new tune or reflash. This is because the PCM will still be able to achieve the targeted air/fuel ratios.
Power increases are generally left to the host engine's condition (largely comopression-based), but most midpipes in the 3" range typically glean between 5-8 h.p. The factory midpipe is 2.5"-2.6". Most power increases are going to arise from simply reducing pumping losses.
Jeff/MazdaManiac's comment was meant to say that improving the exhaust flow does not require a new tune or reflash. This is because the PCM will still be able to achieve the targeted air/fuel ratios.
hm... that I'd have to think about, but I don't think i'm REALLLY low yet.
02-05-2011, 03:05 AM
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also products gotta be popular if you expect a profit haha. By the sounds of it the quality weighs out the price. It seems it's time to start saving haha.Ah my mistake, let me be the voice of reason and say go for it. It seems like a worthwhile mod to do
02-18-2011, 08:53 PM
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After hearing both midpipes I've come to a conclusion...I'm no where close to finding an answer. Both pipes sound awesome. The BHR does sound a bit cleaner all the way up to redline than the RB but in my opinion seems a bit louder. Another factor I noticed was one pipe did have more of a stank to it but this can be explained by miles on pipe or tune of the car so I won't go into it. In conclusion, it seems I'll have to actually try both midpipes before I can make a definitive choice
02-18-2011, 10:45 PM
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lol... lemme know when u decided which's better lol, i'm in the middle of these two right now
btw why'd u say rb was louder? did you hear it in person? if it's really the case, i might go with rb just to try it out lol. i'm pretty sure plenty of people would buy it seconded handed anyways
btw why'd u say rb was louder? did you hear it in person? if it's really the case, i might go with rb just to try it out lol. i'm pretty sure plenty of people would buy it seconded handed anyways
02-19-2011, 03:21 AM
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I heard both in person and also have crappy sound clips. The bhr was paired with a Mazdaspeed and that thing sounded like it blows out on the street under wide open throttle. The rb had a agency power on it and it had a nice rumble to it on the road. Didn't open till it was wot. Again both are excellent pipes and each worth what they're priced for
02-19-2011, 03:41 AM
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Anyone know how the RB Non Resonated is? Of course I know its going to be pretty darn loud but is it obnoxious? I have the Greddy cat-back if that helps. Yes I searched and found only a few threads talking about it. It would be nice if someone had dB reading though.