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Front drop 30mm(1.2in)
Front rate 3.34kg(187lbs)
Rear Drop 20mm(0.8in)
Rear rate 2.18kg(122lbs)
$169
http://www.rs-r.com/store/pc/viewPrd...2&idproduct=57
Front drop 30mm(1.2in)
Front rate 3.34kg(187lbs)
Rear Drop 20mm(0.8in)
Rear rate 2.18kg(122lbs)
$169
http://www.rs-r.com/store/pc/viewPrd...2&idproduct=57
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Hi, today i installed the Mazdaspeed sport springs on my rx8, and i must say i am confused. There is no noticable difference in the cars ride quality (supposed to be stiffer, but feels the same) and the car was supposed to be lowered 20 mm, but again there is no noticable difference (i know i should have mesaured before installing to comapre ) I called the mazda dealer and he said i gotta give some time for it to settle down. Is this true?
that is not a suprise... read the rate on the first post of this thread.
also you might be interested in this thread.... take it for what you want. :-/ https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-wheels-tires-brakes-suspension-55/mazdaspeed-sport-spring-consensus-131009/
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speeddemon32 are all those springs rates on pg 1 tested by you? I am looking into RB springs but I have a big problem trusting any manufacture about their spring rates. In fact if you look on RB's website they do not state their springs rates did the tech people at RB give you those exact rates?
You talk about coilovers being the way to go if you want stiff springs. Are there any coilover system that lets you choice our own spring rates. I know Ground Control has these systems for BMW's and VW's, but I haven't come across one for the RX8. If there isn't coilovers might disappoint you in the same way.
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You talk about coilovers being the way to go if you want stiff springs. Are there any coilover system that lets you choice our own spring rates. I know Ground Control has these systems for BMW's and VW's, but I haven't come across one for the RX8. If there isn't coilovers might disappoint you in the same way.
Keep on testing
I do not remember who gave me the "rates" fo rthe RB springs.... sorry.
pretty much they are all the same... just pick your lowering.
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yes. most coil overs use a more uniform spring. even if your coil over kit comes with its own spring you can then order up a new spring from companies like Eibach. lets say your coil over comeswith a 2.5: diamater, 8 inch tall350 pound spring. you would simply call Eibach and order a 2.5" 6 inch tall xxx pound spring. make sence?
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RS-R
Front drop 30mm(1.2in)
Front rate 3.34kg(187lbs)
Rear Drop 20mm(0.8in)
Rear rate 2.18kg(122lbs)
$169
http://www.rs-r.com/store/pc/viewPrd...2&idproduct=57
Front drop 30mm(1.2in)
Front rate 3.34kg(187lbs)
Rear Drop 20mm(0.8in)
Rear rate 2.18kg(122lbs)
$169
http://www.rs-r.com/store/pc/viewPrd...2&idproduct=57
but serious tho, i just installed the RB fronts only nand there seem to be no noticeable difference in height YET. gotta let the springs sag in and take form. and i think the process will be faster if u loosen the a-arms, preload the suspension, then tighten the a-arm bolts back up so the bushings can sit right.
renesis se3p went for a test drive. and he agrees that somehow for whatever reason, the RB fronts feel softer than the stock rears. so i'm gonna check out the formula and figure out why its so. but i'm not too overly worried... it'll settle in sooner or later.
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i'm really giving trying springs another chance. and i hope the performance gains are there. not the spring guru here, but as stated in RB's catalog it says: 174f/122r. and 20% increase over stock.
damn, renesis se3p really came up on those RSR's springs. i think they are progressive wound. and they have some nice #s.
damn, renesis se3p really came up on those RSR's springs. i think they are progressive wound. and they have some nice #s.
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I understand the Eibach example. That is what Ground Control uses in it's application, but I did not know that this applies to other systems as well. Which coilovers do you know of that work with off the shelf Eibach springs?
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nope, but for what I have heard in the past Megan Racing makes good stuff. take that with grain of salt as its nothin more then he said she said and I have no personal experiance with them nor do I know anyone that has.
Does that help?
Does that help?
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http://www.meganracing.com/products/...d=470&catid=93
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they sound nice to me.... bt then again thats what the add is suposed to do.
one would think that if they were GREAT then they would be a more popular choice... but some good things are not always the norm.
EDIT: if your not realy planning to track the car, then they will be just fine. I would only scrutanize if you were a track racing kinda guy.
one would think that if they were GREAT then they would be a more popular choice... but some good things are not always the norm.
EDIT: if your not realy planning to track the car, then they will be just fine. I would only scrutanize if you were a track racing kinda guy.
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The KW's are probably better due to individual jounce and rebound adjustment but this is a good deal for coilovers (quality unknown). The only question I would have is how the rear upper mounts will work. The stock mounting locations don't lend themselves to top adjustment ***** and pillowball type mounts. I would send them an email asking them to explain how that works.
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they sound nice to me.... bt then again thats what the add is suposed to do.
one would think that if they were GREAT then they would be a more popular choice... but some good things are not always the norm.
EDIT: if your not realy planning to track the car, then they will be just fine. I would only scrutanize if you were a track racing kinda guy.
one would think that if they were GREAT then they would be a more popular choice... but some good things are not always the norm.
EDIT: if your not realy planning to track the car, then they will be just fine. I would only scrutanize if you were a track racing kinda guy.
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ok, so ive searched this but the information is so spread out that its nearly impossible to get things straight... my question is this... im lookin to lower my car, id love to get coilovers because im moving to portugal and over there it would be nice to have some adjustability (roads over there arent the best) i cant get those because it is way too expensive. so im going to opt for springs, id rather not buy some springs that would kill my stock struts. i understand that if the sring rate on the springs is too much it will wear out my struts, but i dont know how much is too much, can anyone list the springs that would be safe for my stock struts, that way i can just look for pictures too see which one has the right drop for me, id greatly apreciate it
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Stock 'Sport' Suspension RX-8: 156/113 (F/R)
Mazdaspeed: 280/190 - Drop = 0.8"/0.8" ***** Not Confirmed - Actual rates have tested much lower
Tein S-Tech: 207/145 - Drop = 1.4"/0.7"
Tein H-Tech: 179/129 - Drop = 1.0"/0.3"
Tanabe GF: 179/146 - Drop = 1.4"/1.2"
Tanabe NF: 162/112 - Drop = 1.4"/1.2"
Racing Beat: 187/136 - Drop = 0.5"/0.5" ***** Not Confirmed
Eibach: 180/130 (progressive) - Drop = 1.2"/0.8" ***** Not Confirmed
H&R: 195/141 (progressive) - Drop = 1.0"/1.0" *****Not Confirmed
the eibachs are 1.2 1.2
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Mazdaspeed: 280/190 - Drop = 0.8"/0.8" ***** Not Confirmed - Actual rates have tested much lower
Tein S-Tech: 207/145 - Drop = 1.4"/0.7"
Tein H-Tech: 179/129 - Drop = 1.0"/0.3"
Tanabe GF: 179/146 - Drop = 1.4"/1.2"
Tanabe NF: 162/112 - Drop = 1.4"/1.2"
Racing Beat: 187/136 - Drop = 0.5"/0.5" ***** Not Confirmed
Eibach: 180/130 (progressive) - Drop = 1.2"/0.8" ***** Not Confirmed
H&R: 195/141 (progressive) - Drop = 1.0"/1.0" *****Not Confirmed
the eibachs are 1.2 1.2
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