Turbo kit has landed!
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Cool deal!
I'm still trying to sort out the pictures - the intake plumbing has to be weird. The turbo, I would assume, would be on the left side of the engine bay (looking from the front of the car) since it's right off the exhaust. Not to mention the picture from under the car looks odd - almost looks like the turbo is on the opposite side of the engine! It's likely just the picture, though.
You can totally tell that's a prototype - all the wiring everywhere . I'm guessing they're probably using an E-manage or something to retune the fuel curve for the turbo - that's what they did with one of the newest Honda turbo kits.
Post up anything else you discover - that looks like it's gonna be a neat setup!
Dale
I'm still trying to sort out the pictures - the intake plumbing has to be weird. The turbo, I would assume, would be on the left side of the engine bay (looking from the front of the car) since it's right off the exhaust. Not to mention the picture from under the car looks odd - almost looks like the turbo is on the opposite side of the engine! It's likely just the picture, though.
You can totally tell that's a prototype - all the wiring everywhere . I'm guessing they're probably using an E-manage or something to retune the fuel curve for the turbo - that's what they did with one of the newest Honda turbo kits.
Post up anything else you discover - that looks like it's gonna be a neat setup!
Dale
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Dale, thats the passenger side tranny mount in the picture behind the turbo. You can just make out the tranny on the left side. They got creative on intercooler plumbing.
#29
Intercooler?
Rotarygod: I don't see an intercooler in those pictures....which is good if they are getting 50hp out of non-intercooled FI. A little more work on the design of the "plumbing" and the addition of an intercooler could provide more like 75hp (though I have never compared intercooled vs. non-intercooled output).
If am missing something in those photo's please explain.
TGIF...a weekend of driving ahead!
If am missing something in those photo's please explain.
TGIF...a weekend of driving ahead!
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Yeah it does look a little confusing, thats why im trying to get some other pics. I want to see the plumbing and such.
I want to see whats below...
I am working it though..
I want to see whats below...
I am working it though..
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great.. i made my point in this one, you showed pics. although is of the 'tubing' and the setup looks unclear. i guess it all starts this way; experimenting and such. i have to admit that it is a start to even get such 'tubing' , if it is available to the public.... one question, is it worth it to go from such high volume air box as the stock one to go with the filter u r using? i assume that the volume id less thus making it harder to breath. yeah aftermarket filter makes it easier for air to pass thur but less voulme at a time right?
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I think that there is probably an intercooler up front somewhere but there just isn't a picture of it. You never know, maybe the pipe does go straight from the turbo to the intake but I suspect that the piping runs under the car to an intercooler and we just can't see it.
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that engine bay is ugly.
Would using water injection allow you to turn up the boost past the .4 PSI that its currently using? I would think WI would be a great setup for the RX-8, due to the space limitations for the IC, etc.
Would using water injection allow you to turn up the boost past the .4 PSI that its currently using? I would think WI would be a great setup for the RX-8, due to the space limitations for the IC, etc.
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My credit-card is already melting...
I really look forward to a production version. I don't mind being first. I would certainly be happier with 75hp. Sounds like a lot of work for 50hp.
First there's a FI system, then you need brakes, then body kit, of course you must get wheels, then upgrade suspension, Oops over boosted, need a new engine, etc, etc. Next thing you know you have a $60,000 RX-8. I am all for it.
I really look forward to a production version. I don't mind being first. I would certainly be happier with 75hp. Sounds like a lot of work for 50hp.
First there's a FI system, then you need brakes, then body kit, of course you must get wheels, then upgrade suspension, Oops over boosted, need a new engine, etc, etc. Next thing you know you have a $60,000 RX-8. I am all for it.
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Yeah I thinks it pretty much testing just to see if the engine can handle it. Im still working on other pics, but things are crazy around here lately.
Anyway, 50hp is nothing to shake a stick at thats for sure. HELL I would take 50hp more hehe for my FD
JT
Anyway, 50hp is nothing to shake a stick at thats for sure. HELL I would take 50hp more hehe for my FD
JT
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Anyway, 50hp is nothing to shake a stick at thats for sure. HELL I would take 50hp more hehe for my FD
$4,000 + 10mm + 12mm socket + weekend = 50hp???
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There most definitely is an intercooler involved with this Trust/GReddy set-up...
BTW, JT... send out those winkers, already!
BTW, JT... send out those winkers, already!
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Originally posted by 1stRX8
Well yeah, there have been millllions of posts about 9hp. Talking about 50hp is much more enjoyable.
$4,000 + 10mm + 12mm socket + weekend = 50hp???
Well yeah, there have been millllions of posts about 9hp. Talking about 50hp is much more enjoyable.
$4,000 + 10mm + 12mm socket + weekend = 50hp???
Mazda HP values = ($500+Maint @ app. $650 / 9) This equates to roughly $128.00/HP.
Given 50 HP, then the value of the turbo kit would be ($128 x 50HP = $6400.00)
Not too shabby if you ask me. But!!!! It would have to be a much cleaner installation than what they currently have going on under that hood.
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shawrf1--Leaving in the morning. They just got in. Mazda has them on backorder 2 weeks at least.
I HAVE THAT MAGAZINE TOO HAHAHAHA
Magnesium--Of course it will be cleaner then the pictures. This totally looks like a prototype.. Mostly the kit looks good IMHO, just they got a lot of wires laying around right now....
I HAVE THAT MAGAZINE TOO HAHAHAHA
Magnesium--Of course it will be cleaner then the pictures. This totally looks like a prototype.. Mostly the kit looks good IMHO, just they got a lot of wires laying around right now....
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Originally posted by shawrf1
There most definitely is an intercooler involved with this Trust/GReddy set-up...
BTW, JT... send out those winkers, already!
There most definitely is an intercooler involved with this Trust/GReddy set-up...
BTW, JT... send out those winkers, already!
Also what does the "40%" mean shown in the scans. Does that mean 40% more power or does it mean the kit is 40% complete at this point?
-Mr. Wigggles
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The radiator leans way forward like the 3rd gen RX-7's do. The piece in that picture is vertical but there is a slight view of one leaning behind it. None of the other pictures show the front of the car which is where an intercooler would be if it is in fact there. Greddy is very proud of their intercoolers and you can bet they installed one. The 3rd gen RX-7 had an intercooler in the engine bay and so does many other cars but the aftermarket tends to put them where they belong, in the airstream in the front of the car. Where would you put one?
#47
Originally posted by MrWigggles
The "intercooler" shown is right were the radiator is. Are we sure that is an intercooler and not the radiator? Does it say so in the Japanese text?
Also what does the "40%" mean shown in the scans. Does that mean 40% more power or does it mean the kit is 40% complete at this point?
-Mr. Wigggles
The "intercooler" shown is right were the radiator is. Are we sure that is an intercooler and not the radiator? Does it say so in the Japanese text?
Also what does the "40%" mean shown in the scans. Does that mean 40% more power or does it mean the kit is 40% complete at this point?
-Mr. Wigggles
40% was refering to the prototype completion. it also said "Release date undetermined"
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Back on topic:
TerenceT: Can you translate anymore of that scanned article? Let me know if you need a better scan...
Back on topic:
TerenceT: Can you translate anymore of that scanned article? Let me know if you need a better scan...
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Originally posted by U. N. O.
did you by any chance 'copy and paste' this pics u posted? or youe work apears in the 'japanesse' magazines?
did you by any chance 'copy and paste' this pics u posted? or youe work apears in the 'japanesse' magazines?
-Mr. Wigggles