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Old 03-31-2006, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by sstricker
mine had fewer problems with the stocker on... but it runs great now, so the next step is to see what umnitza is going to do.

simota requested that umnitza "hang on" to the other 15 units they have, until this is worked out.

simota also said, keep in mind they are in japan, that they have trouble getting ahold of an 8?! i just thought that was funny.

Always know what source you are getting from. MANY aftermarket companies build their neat little gizmos and bolt-ons based on Manf schemantics. That's why I stick with Racing Beat, they have RX-8's for fit and performance testing, they are made in the US, so it's easier to get support (if you live in the US) and have been dealing with rotary's FOREVER.

I don't know, RB may cost more. But you get what you pay for. I wouldn't go with any other intake other than RB. Other than throwing a K&N into the stock box. Seems like RB really knows the insides and outs of a RX-8 and they are also teamed with Mazda.
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Originally Posted by Wurmfist
Always know what source you are getting from. MANY aftermarket companies build their neat little gizmos and bolt-ons based on Manf schemantics. That's why I stick with Racing Beat, they have RX-8's for fit and performance testing, they are made in the US, so it's easier to get support (if you live in the US) and have been dealing with rotary's FOREVER.

I don't know, RB may cost more. But you get what you pay for. I wouldn't go with any other intake other than RB. Other than throwing a K&N into the stock box. Seems like RB really knows the insides and outs of a RX-8 and they are also teamed with Mazda.

LOL, just fit up my RB ram air last night, had to turn one of the brackets 180 deg from what was shown in order to get it to line up ...

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I'm pretty sure that simota had a donor car. I doubt they based their intake on manufacture schematics, especially since the Carbon Fiber part of the intake is a custom design. And I am 100% sure that RB hasn't been dealing with rotarys FOREVER... They may have more experience than others in the US, but there are many more reputable companies in Japan and other countries. MY favorite is Scoot...hehe

There is no doubt that the RB intake is a great quality product, but its not the only company. HKS, simota, AEM, and even K&N (Version 2) have made pretty good intakes.

Its not fair to be bias because you think RB has more experience than others and give you support because there in the US.

Simota and Umnitza has given great support to customers in the US and have been trying to fix things as quick as possible.
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agreed! they had an issue with the last batch and they have now fixed the issue. they gave me a full refund and i was able to purchase the new intake at the discounted price. they have answered EVERY question that i have thrown at them promptly.

RB is a great company, but to say that they are the best is a little far fetched. umnitza may be small and they may order these intakes from japan, but they are still a customer oriented company.
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well sort of, not telling customers they're on backorder when purchased, sending a receipt upon order but not listing it in the purchaser's account, and not keeping the customer informed on an estimated delivery would generally be considered not so customer oriented. That's not intended as a slam but rather it demonstrates an opportunity for improvement if being customer oriented is your goal ...
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yeah.... my bad... i forgot about that... but i think that we can all agree that there are far worse companies to deal with than umnitza!
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I agree, just offering it up as a friendly suggestion I'm a sales engineer so my standards are high, I expect what I give
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lol! and you should!
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Bad News!!!!!!

i was out running errands earlier and all of a sudden the damn car stopped accelerating... nothing..... i had to drive home in 2nd gear at like 20mph....... im done with this intake and this car..... i've had nothing but problems since the day i bought it.... i got it in nov 05 and it has been in the shop at least 15 times for numerous things....................
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thanks, cancelling mine ... mostly because I'm peeved over the wait, I need something else, probably AEM if MS doen't come through this week.

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Did you tell umnitza? Now I want a refund if you think the intake is the problem, which is what it probably is,
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Originally Posted by sstricker
i was out running errands earlier and all of a sudden the damn car stopped accelerating... nothing..... i had to drive home in 2nd gear at like 20mph....... im done with this intake and this car..... i've had nothing but problems since the day i bought it.... i got it in nov 05 and it has been in the shop at least 15 times for numerous things....................
This sort of sounds like the car is having a problem, not the intake.

perhaps you might want to call us to discuss what you perceive is the issue.

If the car has been fine for what appears to be about 1 week, how is it suddenly it failed. This is not likely related to the intake.

The new upgrade is coming in 3-4 days.
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Here's Sstricker's email.

Originally Posted by Sstricker
there is no CEL... it revs fine, in 1st, until about 5k..... then shift into 2nd and nothing... it doesn't want to go. i honestly have no idea what is going on....... i'm gonna have to have it towed to mazda (35 miles) on monday...... i think my first email may have been a little rash... i put the stocker back on and it is doing the same thing....... i think my car is just fucked!!!!!
Maybe you guys need to settle down and just relax and let's take it step by step?
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why is it that my car is having problems with the intake on????????????? i have had ZERO issues since i sent the old one back! and no all of a sudden the damn thing ***** up again........ a little fishy if you ask me..........
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Originally Posted by umnitza
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Maybe you guys need to settle down and just relax and let's take it step by step?

PSSSSSS...... UMNITZA..... while you are quoting emails..... go ahead and post the PS to that one....!!!!!!!!
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It can't be hot and cold.

If it works, it would work, it won't suddenly stop.

If it doesn't work, it won't work immediately. You would have had the check light immediately.

It sounds like any of a multitude of things. Why not take it to the dealer and get a diagnosis.
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seriously...... this is the same thing that happened the last time, except this time i dont have a CEL...... you tell me... hot or cold?


you wanted me to test this damn thing..... and i did..... i told you on MONDAY to give me a week before releasing it..... you did not do that......

the 1st intake i ordered took nearly a week before **** started hitting the fan.....

guess what?! the 2nd one took 5 days............
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Please let's back the rhetoric down a few notches. I empathize with your situation.

I'm not saying this is bulletproof, we are waiting longer, we haven't released anything as the engineers are continuing to test it.

If there is no CEL, then you need to diagnose it. While there may be similarities, blanket assumptions won't help your situation.

As a minor example:
We have a 7 series in the family, pressure testing the coolant system yields no leaks, but somehow, out of the blue, completely out of nowhere, the needle on the coolant guage hits red, and it hits it hard after 20 minutes of driving. Without proper diagnosis, there is no way to determine if this is something that was replaced incorrectly, a failing part that didn't fail before, or a completely unrelated symptom that is causing it.

Could it be your car? We've sold only about 10 intakes, only 2 reports (yours and another one) have had issues. The other reported issue is just like yours for the first intake.

Let's take a few steps back and find out what the dealer service tells you.
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Logically, the intake seems to be at fault, since sstricker was running fine until he would install the Simota intake. Although it could be other things, designing an intake for the RX8 seems to be a difficult thing to accomplish. Look at K&N's Version 1 intake that was a total failure. You really can't just slap on a filter on some piping and put on a heat shield, there has to be a lot more R&D then that.

As a vendor for Simota, Umnitza should cancel all orders of the intake, so the Issue at hand can be resolved again and you will decrease the amount of future problems, when other people install it.
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you know i am not a patient person, correct? i have been extremely patient in this. the 1st intake i went through the motions with my dealer. as stated above, it took nearly a week for anything to go wrong.

i have had this on for 5 days and now all of a sudden it is doing the exact same thing, minus a CEL, as the 1st intake. now why would that be?

my car has been running fine, in between intakes........ i'm going to have it towed to the dealer on monday and let them diagnose it... and you can rest assured that i will let you know the outcome. however........ if they decide not to cover this under warranty, are you guys gonna step up and pay for it????
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If you want to discuss this, you can call us or email. That's it.
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Wait, why would you, umnitza, sell the intakes and give one to sstricker, if the ENGINEERS are continuing to TEST it.

Why was it put on the market or even sold to sstricker to test, if ENGINEERS were still testing it? Doesn't make any sense and seems really shady.

If you have already sold 10, you guys are going to have a big problem when those 10 people start having problems like sstricker.
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Originally Posted by umnitza
If you want to discuss this, you can call us or email. That's it.

R U BY THE PHONE NOW?
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Wait, why would you, umnitza, sell the intakes and give one to sstricker, if the ENGINEERS are continuing to TEST it.

Why was it put on the market or even sold to sstricker to test, if ENGINEERS were still testing it? Doesn't make any sense and seems really shady.

If you have already sold 10, you guys are going to have a big problem when those 10 people start having problems like sstricker.
agreed...... i was under the impression that this had already been tested in japan.....
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This is kind of embarassing for you sstricker because you already got hooked up by the dealer to help you out on the situation with the first intake and they DIAGNOSED that it was the Simota intake and now they are going to be like why did you install the same intake again, when that was the problem in the first place.


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