Want MPG!
04-05-2007, 12:53 PM
#52
Originally Posted by tajabaho1
EMS or piggybacks doesn't help you either right?
you can get a little bit with a piggyback (I got 1.5mpg improvement) but it does nothing for cruise mpg - only hard accel. mpg is improved . You would never recoup your investment with the savings however.
04-05-2007, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ricky356
have you tried putting sugar in your gas tank? ill put money on it you wont have to spend money on gas for at least a couple weeks!
04-05-2007, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ricky356
have you tried putting sugar in your gas tank? ill put money on it you wont have to spend money on gas for at least a couple weeks!
anyhow, thankyou all, I'm going to buy the ems first and see the difference.......will also install the CAI just for fun (got one for free)
04-05-2007, 10:37 PM
#58
Don't forget their mpg for the RX...13.8...ouch!
Originally Posted by Razz1
Stop complaining...... R&T actual use is:
Lancer Evolution 15.4
Mustang GT 15
Mustang GT500 14
Boxter 15.4
I can go on...................
Lancer Evolution 15.4
Mustang GT 15
Mustang GT500 14
Boxter 15.4
I can go on...................
04-05-2007, 11:07 PM
#59
Originally Posted by tajabaho1
I used sand on s2k once, I never saw it again................
anyhow, thankyou all, I'm going to buy the ems first and see the difference.......will also install the CAI just for fun (got one for free)
anyhow, thankyou all, I'm going to buy the ems first and see the difference.......will also install the CAI just for fun (got one for free)
04-05-2007, 11:14 PM
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Im thinking of the piggyback.......btw i forgot to tell u I have an AT(which the dealer gave me a great price on) which is kinda sad.........
04-05-2007, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Wankelmut
I would put a little bit more psi into the tyres, remove all heavy things out of the car you carry arround without any reason. What you also can do is to shift earlier or go from the first gear directly into the third gear and than into the fith.
04-05-2007, 11:58 PM
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go buy a testpipe so you can program your ECU and run more lean
the rotary engine is programmed to run very rich to keep the cat alive, without the cat...why run it rich?? and beside, running it more lean will give you more HP
the rotary engine is programmed to run very rich to keep the cat alive, without the cat...why run it rich?? and beside, running it more lean will give you more HP
04-06-2007, 02:06 PM
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the cat is the bulge in your exhaust system just after where it comes out of the motor. It is short for catalytic converter & is there to reduce emissions . I believe it is highly illegal to remove it in your area however . An alternative is to have a 'high flow' cat fitted by an exhaust shop .
04-06-2007, 02:32 PM
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There are probably 3 ways to increase your gase mileage:
More efficient use of fuel
More efficient delivery of power
Less work to be done
Depending on how you drive and how well your car is tuned, your mpg can be all over the place to start. Some people get 17mpg highway peak. I touch 22. During spirited driving, I've gotten as low as 11.4 mpg. Buying a piggy back system or any EMS gives the possibility that you will up your MPG. It also gives the possibility that you will lower your mpg. If you try hard enough, you can probably use an EMS to run your injectors 100% open and just dump your entire tank of fuel into your engine while sitting in the driveway. I would probably shy away from that.
Now, the question becomes - are you REALLY worried about your MPG or do you just want to buy some cool car parts and have a better/stronger car. If you buy an EMS for $500 and have it programmed perfectly for $500, you've both gotten a decent deal on something (though some systems run cheaper, many are MUCH more expensive) and gotten the best tuning deal for a lifetime tune I've seen. That's a $1000 investment - certainly not bad. If it raises your mpg from 20 to 22, thats some decent results. And if gas costs 3$ a gallon, it'll only take 74,000 miles to pay its self off. 2mpg is a nice return, $1000 isn't too expensive, and 74000 miles is a lot of driving. To be honest, you're probably not going to save money in the long run by buy car parts. That really isn't the point anyway.
Now, if you reduce the weight of the car (reduce the amount of work to be done), drive fairly lightly, and run a little higher tire pressure, you can probably do 2mpg better for free. 22 mpg isn't exactly a civic though.
I have 2 recommendations:
1. Embrace your car, accept the weekly fillup bills with stoic pride, and enjoy the ride. Even if you drive 20k miles a year, that's only a $1000 output for gas over what an 30mpg car does. It's doable.
2. Completely ignore MPG, buy car parts, and enjoy driving. It's more expensive and you'll probably wind up getting less MPG, but it's definitely more fun.
More efficient use of fuel
More efficient delivery of power
Less work to be done
Depending on how you drive and how well your car is tuned, your mpg can be all over the place to start. Some people get 17mpg highway peak. I touch 22. During spirited driving, I've gotten as low as 11.4 mpg. Buying a piggy back system or any EMS gives the possibility that you will up your MPG. It also gives the possibility that you will lower your mpg. If you try hard enough, you can probably use an EMS to run your injectors 100% open and just dump your entire tank of fuel into your engine while sitting in the driveway. I would probably shy away from that.
Now, the question becomes - are you REALLY worried about your MPG or do you just want to buy some cool car parts and have a better/stronger car. If you buy an EMS for $500 and have it programmed perfectly for $500, you've both gotten a decent deal on something (though some systems run cheaper, many are MUCH more expensive) and gotten the best tuning deal for a lifetime tune I've seen. That's a $1000 investment - certainly not bad. If it raises your mpg from 20 to 22, thats some decent results. And if gas costs 3$ a gallon, it'll only take 74,000 miles to pay its self off. 2mpg is a nice return, $1000 isn't too expensive, and 74000 miles is a lot of driving. To be honest, you're probably not going to save money in the long run by buy car parts. That really isn't the point anyway.
Now, if you reduce the weight of the car (reduce the amount of work to be done), drive fairly lightly, and run a little higher tire pressure, you can probably do 2mpg better for free. 22 mpg isn't exactly a civic though.
I have 2 recommendations:
1. Embrace your car, accept the weekly fillup bills with stoic pride, and enjoy the ride. Even if you drive 20k miles a year, that's only a $1000 output for gas over what an 30mpg car does. It's doable.
2. Completely ignore MPG, buy car parts, and enjoy driving. It's more expensive and you'll probably wind up getting less MPG, but it's definitely more fun.
04-08-2007, 08:18 PM
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ahhh, so sad........at least I don't flip over..........so basically there is nothing to do.....ok.......I ma go install my CAI and piggyback and exhaust and see what they do
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