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Old 01-29-2005 | 10:07 AM
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Will there ever be a performance chip for the 8's?

The only thing that disappoints me about the 8 is the lack of power. Coming from a heavily customized Lightning it is really something I thought wouldn't bother me, but I am missiing it more and more when the time comes for fast, powerful passing on the e-way and to jump in front of someone easily at a light so I can get into the turning lane. So many cars gain 30-40 HP with just a chip, I feel that could be a huge difference in a car as light as this, especially for those of us with the manual. Before I added blower pulleys and intakes & so on to my Lightning, the very first thing I did was put on a Diablochip perfromance chip...the difference was night & day. Does anyone know of anyone gearing up for something like this for our 8's?
Old 01-29-2005 | 10:38 AM
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Chip? We don't need no steenkin' chip!

Rev higher.
Old 01-29-2005 | 10:44 AM
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Old 01-29-2005 | 10:47 AM
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I have a Canzoomer Stage 1 for sale in the parts for sale section but do read up on it as you should do some custom tunning to get the most out of it.
Old 01-29-2005 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by BAM-BAM
The only thing that disappoints me about the 8 is the lack of power. Coming from a heavily customized Lightning it is really something I thought wouldn't bother me, but I am missiing it more and more when the time comes for fast, powerful passing on the e-way and to jump in front of someone easily at a light so I can get into the turning lane. So many cars gain 30-40 HP with just a chip, I feel that could be a huge difference in a car as light as this, especially for those of us with the manual. Before I added blower pulleys and intakes & so on to my Lightning, the very first thing I did was put on a Diablochip perfromance chip...the difference was night & day. Does anyone know of anyone gearing up for something like this for our 8's?
Your Lightning might have had a lot of horse, but I bet hardly anyone ever used to check it/you out at the stoplight... especially after you "jumped" in front of them so you could get in the turn lane. It was probably more like, "F'in truck drivers... they think they own the roads!" :p
Old 01-29-2005 | 04:22 PM
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keep your revs above 5k, it's a high revving car so it needs revs to build power. Just keep it in the powerband and I guarantee you won't have problems passing anyone on the freeway. The rx8 is no torque beast, seems like you didn't do much research before trading your truck. The two are complete opposites. Canzoomer helps, but you won't notice a HUGE 40 hp difference. With all due respect learn how to drive the 8, then you will appreciate it how it delivers it's power.
Old 01-29-2005 | 06:17 PM
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You need something like the Canzoomer. Its really the only thing available right now, also try revving higher. Rotaries make all their power in the upper rpm range (above 5k).
Old 01-29-2005 | 11:40 PM
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Try this site they have them http://www.powerchips.ch/main.html
Old 01-30-2005 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Old Rotor
Try this site they have them http://www.powerchips.ch/main.html
original horsepower 250 8500
hosrepower with powerchips 274 8500

Nm tr/min.
original torque 216 7500
torque with powerchips 255 7200


OK, I'm game for a little snake oil.

So on the face of it, this is a failrly good value for 484 euros. I just can't imagine that it works as stated. Do they have dyno sheets or just say this is what you get? Didn't see any on the site (which was absurdly slow to load). They must be pretty good, single-handedly improving the performance of a wide range of cars on the road from their little facilities.

Anyone ever bought one? I didn't think there was "a chip" (eprom) that was so easily replaceable in the 8. On the positive side, it is a Swiss company. Wonders never cease or is it a fool is born every minute?
Old 01-30-2005 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Spin9k
original horsepower 250 8500
hosrepower with powerchips 274 8500

Nm tr/min.
original torque 216 7500
torque with powerchips 255 7200


OK, I'm game for a little snake oil.

So on the face of it, this is a failrly good value for 484 euros. I just can't imagine that it works as stated. Do they have dyno sheets or just say this is what you get? Didn't see any on the site (which was absurdly slow to load). They must be pretty good, single-handedly improving the performance of a wide range of cars on the road from their little facilities.

Anyone ever bought one? I didn't think there was "a chip" (eprom) that was so easily replaceable in the 8. On the positive side, it is a Swiss company. Wonders never cease or is it a fool is born every minute?

Agreed, I wish it was 216lb/ft of torque :p
Old 01-30-2005 | 04:14 PM
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^^ you mean it's not...awe crap:p
Old 01-30-2005 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Aoshi Shinomori
Agreed, I wish it was 216lb/ft of torque :p
It's a european company. Therefore 216 N-m which is 159 lb-ft. Look in the European subforum, someone had one installed.
Old 01-30-2005 | 07:19 PM
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Why on earth would you want a preprogrammed chip?

Buy the e-manage, buy the ignition harness, and tune the fuel and ignition timing to your specific car - don't sink to the lowest common denominator and get a one-size-fits-all chip.
Old 01-30-2005 | 09:13 PM
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Buy the e-manage, buy the ignition harness, and tune the fuel and ignition timing to your specific car - don't sink to the lowest common denominator and get a one-size-fits-all chip.
But, how about if you don't know what your doing? I've heard of the e-manage but would not know what to do with such a thing. Furthermore, is it me or is the e-manage only for FI cars????
Old 01-30-2005 | 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by rx8wannahave
But, how about if you don't know what your doing? I've heard of the e-manage but would not know what to do with such a thing. Furthermore, is it me or is the e-manage only for FI cars????
Honestly if you don't know how to tune, the ECU re-programming is not for you, or you should find someone that does know how because these products will give you next to nothing without proper tuning. The RX8's have shown to vary so widely that what may give 5 hp on one car can give 20 hp on another car. I'm sure powerchips is showing you how well their chip is working on their test RX8, that they have probably tuned the hell out of, but you might find that when you put their product on your car you might get 0-10 hp. Not trying to be mean but this mod is not a "plug & play" device (especially for this car). It's not like putting in a cat back exhaust, or a hi-flow cat. You should definitely be able to work on this, or at least pay somebody else that can work on this.
Old 01-30-2005 | 11:09 PM
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im sure apexi will make a fc commander for our car soon.
Old 01-30-2005 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by MI_FamilyMan
Your Lightning might have had a lot of horse, but I bet hardly anyone ever used to check it/you out at the stoplight... especially after you "jumped" in front of them so you could get in the turn lane. It was probably more like, "F'in truck drivers... they think they own the roads!" :p
That made me laugh, because when I am in the truck (05 chevy 3/4ton with 6" lift, 35" tire and a chip for a extra 100ft-lbs of torque, making the d-max diesel have 690ft-lbs torque) I say F'ing car drivers think they are the only ones on the road. Have had more cars force there way in than trucks. Oh the mentionrf truck came off the lot like that and only had 10 miles on it when bought.

I think i would perfer the canzoomer for this car because of its tune ability. The chip in my truck only has 4 settings, but I like the idea of infinit settings, meaning the ability to save as many different maps on the computer for different situations.

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Old 01-31-2005 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by rx8wannahave
But, how about if you don't know what your doing? I've heard of the e-manage but would not know what to do with such a thing. Furthermore, is it me or is the e-manage only for FI cars????
A) You should have it installed and tuned by a professional on a dyno.

B) E-manage is a universal piggyback fuel computer to adjust the air/fuel ratio and the ignition timing/injector cycle with the proper harness, they even have a MAF to MAP conversion in case you're pushing more air than the MAF can handle. It is for any application, not just forced induction, but if you're running boost and you don't use one to tune you're just asking for trouble - the stock computer wasn't designed to handle boost.

This is an infinately variable unit to handle anything you've done to your car, no one-size-fits-all. Definately a must if you're serious into tuning.
Old 02-01-2005 | 09:33 AM
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im sure apexi will make a fc commander for our car soon.
i was at the tokyo motor show with apexi and they sed that the power FC its not posibol to instal to the RX8 and they have now projet to devlop it.

they are loosing performance.
Old 02-01-2005 | 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Need For Speed
i was at the tokyo motor show with apexi and they sed that the power FC its not posibol to instal to the RX8 and they have now projet to devlop it.

they are loosing performance.
great
it was a good system for my fd
very easy to use and tune.
oh well, i still believe that the stock rx8 has alot of hidden power in the ecu.i mean alot
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