peterlemonjello

I have over 50k miles and use premix. But does it really matter since the eccentric shaft sensor is disconnected no fuel is being injected anyways.

Honestly, I didn't realize there was a step to increase the OMP flow rate.

GaMEChld

No, they mean they step up the OMP flow AFTER you are running the engine for real to flush out all the cleaner. It said the engine would be very dry from the cleaner, thus increased OMP. But, seems like people are doing fine w/o it. I may play it safe and give it a cup of oil to vaccuum up, dunno.

peterlemonjello

Gotcha!

Rai

What about this point?
18-23. Cant be done outside of dealer, concerns using the IDS Computer System, not necessary anyway. We activate the OMP to 60% for a decent amount of time to help provide extra lube to the chambers since theyll be super dry from the cleaning process. To recreate this at home just connect a vac hose from both of the LIM nipples into a cup of fresh oil and let the engine vac. suck the oil down into the engine

Btw., where could I buy this with delivery to Europe?

nycgps

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Or just put premix more in that tank of gas. say, 16 oz to a tank ?

Rai

well but what did you, did you add oil to the tank? or is it not important... ?

shadycrew31

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i just fill up a separate cup with 2 oz of oil and let each housing suck that up make sure you have someone on the gas at 2k for this though. if you use seafoam it has some conditioners in it since is mostly made up of pale oil which is a lubricant.. I'm not sure if the seafoamers have to put int he extra oil but I figure why not the extra 2oz's cant hurt.

nycgps

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its not really THAT important IMO. consider the fact that default OMP system never really gave us the kind of lubrication that we need anyway.

Rai

now I am confused

I just don't want to damage my engine, but want to care about it.
I think that shadycrew31 version is much better, then adding oil to tank, because, how much i know, if You add oil to a tank, you will get a blue smoke from the exhaust.. or am I wrong?!!?!?
shadycrew31 how are you adding oil - in wich order? Can you please explain it more specific.

GaMEChld

IF you add oil to the tank, make sure it is oil that is tried and true. It needs to be 2-stroke oil designed for mixing with gas and burning. After reading up on everything, I am going to start premixing regularly Idemitsu Rotary Premix. So after I start that, I don't think I'll worry about extra oil.

Unfortunatley, some morons shipped that oil to the wrong address, so I gotta wait till thats corrected.

The way Shady was detailing was he connected lines to the vacuum nipples that you used to inject the engine cleaner, and then he let them suck up oil from a cup while the engine ran.

Rai

Many thanks for your answers!

icyur2

K..I'm officially confused :p

I have read 2 ways to use either the Mazda Engine Cleaner -or- the Seafoam:

1 - Use the nipple in the engine to suck the solution into the rotary chamber
2 - Add solution to a tankful of gas

Which has been proven? Mechanically in-ept, I prefer the easy way Owners who had premixed this with a tankful of gasoline, what are your impressions? Thanks in advance!!

HeavyMetal699

Buy the mazda zoom cleaner and use the supplied plastic hose to spray it directly into the engine.

As many problems as we have with our fuel pumps already I wouldn't put it in the gas tank.

mrinno

Nice. Will do this soon

nycgps

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what what ? put it into ur gas ?

err ... no

Thats not what the zoom zoom cleaner is for.

seriously speaking, the zoom zoom power cleaning is not as hard as it looks. u dont even need to jack the car up or anything. 30 minutes to take da stuff out, 2 minutes for the spray/crank. 1 hour of "sit and wait" time. put everything back. fire it up. 2-3 hours total.

nycgps

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Before you fire your engine up, suck about 1/4 cup of engine oil the same way u did to spray that zoom zoom cleaner into the engine.

Not hard.

alz0rz

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okay..so I did this today.

i got a small white puff of smoke when I turned the car back on after an hour and 15 min and that was it..

don't know what to think.. other than NYCGPS i think i want you to do it for me again ;D

GaMEChld

interesting, I think you should have gotten a lot more smoke. Wonder what happened.

alz0rz

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okay.. so we did this again today.. nycgps was here to help me out..

once again.. pretty much NO SMOKE WHATSOEVER!!!

so the general consensus was that i'm pretty much carbon free........:o

GaMEChld

you're not having any drivability issues are you? nothing to indicate a clogged cat?

alz0rz

iTrader: (41)

bad mpg (say 12-13mpg) is a indicator of a clogged cat? my exhaust tone may or may not be raspy too..

last time i took it to the dealer to check my cat they threatened to void my warranty due to an aftermarket "computer" (my carpc) and because it was hooked up to the obd2 port

i'd love to check the cat myself but don't have the resources to remove it and check myself...

nycgps

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Yep, I was there and I was surprised too.

the smoke only last for maybe 5 seconds the most and no more.

maybe his engine is too clean ? cant be tho, that zoom zoom stuff should emit smoke when burn, Carbon up or not.

GaMEChld

yeah that's what i was thinking, there should be smoke no matter what the carbon cuz the cleaner itself has to come out. Dunno though. When I asked about what a dead cat would result in a while back they said:

"Dead CAT = restricted exhaust flow = runs like it's choking...or not at all"

So whatever that means :-P

You know what could work though? What if you did the cleaner, but took the cat out. See how much smoke comes out of the exhaust manifold. If a ton comes out, I'd say you had a cat problem. If its the same, then I guess all's well. You probably don't want to waste anymore cleaner though. Just an idea.

alz0rz

iTrader: (41)

right.. but my car is not having any sort of drivability issues.. pulls hard all the way to redline...

like I said I would love to be able to take the cat off myself to check it out..

edit:.. what if the cleaner itself was bad?

GaMEChld

interesting idea, could be the cleaner itself...

As for taking the cat off, if you got jack, jack stands, and a socket set, It's pretty easy to get off. But if it ain't broke, don't fix it.