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Red_Fox 05-20-2009 10:26 AM

Thanks to this thread:

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...tachment-2.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...tachment-1.jpg

Atilla 05-20-2009 10:28 AM

lol @ Chase

dude, you're one of us now (Night Wrenchers) lol

Looks clean bro :cool:

Red_Fox 05-20-2009 10:44 AM

serioulsy i cant work in the day i never have time so i started this project at 10pm and when i was putting in my K & N intake that was at midnight haha

Alexandriasrx8 05-26-2009 02:01 PM

u think pink cals will look good on the black 8? im either painting them pink or red... i may jus do 1 pink an see how it looks and go from there

thawk97 05-27-2009 02:46 PM

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I just did mine last weekend. Got a SS 8 so I painted black with G2 paint and Polaks white decals - I am very pleased with how it turned out - now I just hope the decals stay on well.

Ross_Dawg 06-04-2009 09:57 PM

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Did my calipers and hubs a few weeks ago. Duplicolor Black kit... enough paint for 5 more coats :D:

Alexb 06-04-2009 10:21 PM


Originally Posted by thawk97 (Post 3041043)
I just did mine last weekend. Got a SS 8 so I painted black with G2 paint and Polaks white decals - I am very pleased with how it turned out - now I just hope the decals stay on well.


I'm debating doing black with white decals, or white with black decals

I drive a BB....

Any input? (This is actually a repaint from blue)

Ross_Dawg 06-04-2009 10:25 PM

Definitely black with white decals

AJRx892 06-30-2009 03:24 PM

i have an 04 winning blue i gonna order polaks rx8 decals and do the bottom coat then decals then paint over and take the decals off

suggestions on color combinations?
and what kind of paint to use g2 duplicolor some other brand?

im in georgia now snow so cold weather not a problem

if i decided to do blue which paint brand would be best to match the color of my car? or come close i want it to look good
anyone have pics of WB with painted calipers that you did yourself?
that show a side view of the whole car
ive seen acouple where they said they were a wb then only took pics of the wheels

laythor 06-30-2009 05:26 PM

blue lettering and black base

I used the g2 paint and it's great.

AJRx892 06-30-2009 11:08 PM

what if i did white lettering and blue base?
would that be too much?
the blue base i would get G2 to color match my winning blue as close as possible

if so ill just do black base blue lettering

Bigbacon 07-01-2009 11:00 AM

can you use the brake caliper paint on the engine covers?

Gozza_11 07-06-2009 07:51 AM

hey i was just wondering where do u get the car stands from and how much would they cost?? also where do u put them underneath the car??

Huey52 07-06-2009 08:28 AM

Autozone, Pep Boys, Sears, most anywhere they sell automotive products. We have relatively lightweight vehicles so the two ton stands are adequate.

They typically go along the sills at/near the standard jack points.

Always use jackstands. It's not worth the potential injury working off a jack alone.

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/cat...ame=Jack+Stand


Originally Posted by Gozza_11 (Post 3102061)
hey i was just wondering where do u get the car stands from and how much would they cost?? also where do u put them underneath the car??


DaGnome 08-08-2009 01:37 PM

Sorry if this info is burried somewhere, but searching for Caliper Paint DIY instructions is proving to be impossible...

I'm looking for DIY INSTRUCTIONS on how to Remove/Paint the calipers & rotors...... I understand this is an OLD post, but since it's still active, I wondered if someone might post the instructions themselves, specifically how to remove the calipers, rotor and any relevant brake bleeding (no clue what that is but I've seen it mentioned).

The Pics and observations posted here are nice, and give great advice on how to tape things up, colors, etc... but they are missing the key info for a DIY.. that is how to actually start the project.

If this info is located in another thread that someone is aware of, please feel free to shoo me in that direction.

My main goal is to not F#@# up my breaks because I did something stupid to the Calipers :)

Huey52 08-09-2009 06:49 AM

The G2 caliper paint kit comes with complete instructions.

Removing the calipers to a bench for painting is optimal, but you can paint them on the '8 as long as you mask around them properly and of course stay away from the brake runners.

Basically you just wire brush (if necessary), degrease the calipers with the included solvent, mix the 2-part paint and brush it on. Let dry and repeat as many coats as desired (two coats adequate - there's a time limit once you mix the paint).

Bigbacon 08-10-2009 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by DaGnome (Post 3158628)
Sorry if this info is burried somewhere, but searching for Caliper Paint DIY instructions is proving to be impossible...

I'm looking for DIY INSTRUCTIONS on how to Remove/Paint the calipers & rotors...... I understand this is an OLD post, but since it's still active, I wondered if someone might post the instructions themselves, specifically how to remove the calipers, rotor and any relevant brake bleeding (no clue what that is but I've seen it mentioned).

The Pics and observations posted here are nice, and give great advice on how to tape things up, colors, etc... but they are missing the key info for a DIY.. that is how to actually start the project.

If this info is located in another thread that someone is aware of, please feel free to shoo me in that direction.

My main goal is to not F#@# up my breaks because I did something stupid to the Calipers :)


If I had to do it again, I would go with a brush on paint and mask with the calipers still on the car. I had to do touch up with the calipers on and it was pretty easy and painless.

DaGnome 08-11-2009 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by Huey52 (Post 3159390)
The G2 caliper paint kit comes with complete instructions.

I do not have this "G2 Caliper Paint Kit"... I simply have a few cans of Caliper Paint and of course the cleaning supplies...I didn't see the need to buy an overpriced 'kit' just to include paint brushes, stirring sticks and a decal. Is there something else inside that makes the $40+ worth it?

According to G2's website however they don't even recommend removing the Calipers, per the instructions they have online.. perhaps they changed it since you bought your kit? (Or are there different kits perhaps)


Originally Posted by http://g2usa.com/brake_caliper_paint_instructions.shtml
1.Remove all four wheels from the vehicle. This product was developed for easy DIY application so removal of calipers and/or drums will not be necessary; however, if you intend to paint inside the calipers, the brake pads may have to be removed before continuing.

The main reason I need/want to remove the calipers is so I can remove/paint the Rotor and shield behind it properly. The rotor itself is what has all the rust anyway, and I figured it'd be a pain in the ass to scrub.. rotate wheel.. scrub again..rotate etc...


Either way.. still hunting for instructions.. or a kind soul near me that might be able to show me how :)

Huey52 08-12-2009 06:31 AM

The paint included in the G2 kit is arguably better than other brands and it was a easy 'one stop shopping' if you will.

I don't know what more you could be looking for as far as instructions - this ain't rocket science. Again, remove calipers or mask, wire brush if necessary, degrease with brake cleaner, mix the 2-part paint and brush it on as many coats as desired/within the paint's time limit (typically 2 coats). You can also do the hubs and rotor hub-rims (of course don't get paint on the rotor-brakepad contact surfaces). Done.

DaGnome 08-15-2009 12:30 AM


Originally Posted by Huey52 (Post 3165052)
I don't know what more you could be looking for as far as instructions - this ain't rocket science. Again, remove calipers <snip>

Aha! And there lies the key part of this DIY.. removing said calipers... I'm sure it's not difficult, however as someone who's never changed brakes/calipers I'm having a hard time locating any decent instructions.

I've found a few highly technical 'blow-up' type of pictures from various manuals.. but nothing that guides you step by step, as a typical DIY would do.

I've seen quite a few threads on these forums alone with people who have had problems putting on the calipers once removed, often lacking specific tools that seem to be required or not knowing 'simple' things that anyone who's done this before would know.

I guess I was a bit to optimistic that a DIY on painting calipers would have more info than "remove, clean, paint". The original poster had some great tips on things he found out but I don't think I'd call this a DIY by any means, perhaps a "Tips when..xxx" would have been a more appropriate title. (Just my option btw..)

Anyway.. I've finally purchased my jacks and stands, so this weekend I'll see how things go trying to clean it all while leaving the brakes on the car itself.. then seeing how easy it will be to tape everything off so I don't mess up the rotors/pads etc.. :uh:

Huey52 08-15-2009 07:10 AM

Check out the Brake DIY's for caliper removal. You should probably just mask yours.

http://www.hi-impact.org/ryang/modif...x8_brakes.html

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-do-yourself-forum-73/diy-how-change-your-rear-brake-pads-172382/

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...=brake+pad+DIY


Originally Posted by DaGnome (Post 3171272)
Aha! And there lies the key part of this DIY.. removing said calipers... I'm sure it's not difficult, however as someone who's never changed brakes/calipers I'm having a hard time locating any decent instructions.

I've found a few highly technical 'blow-up' type of pictures from various manuals.. but nothing that guides you step by step, as a typical DIY would do.

I've seen quite a few threads on these forums alone with people who have had problems putting on the calipers once removed, often lacking specific tools that seem to be required or not knowing 'simple' things that anyone who's done this before would know.

I guess I was a bit to optimistic that a DIY on painting calipers would have more info than "remove, clean, paint". The original poster had some great tips on things he found out but I don't think I'd call this a DIY by any means, perhaps a "Tips when..xxx" would have been a more appropriate title. (Just my option btw..)

Anyway.. I've finally purchased my jacks and stands, so this weekend I'll see how things go trying to clean it all while leaving the brakes on the car itself.. then seeing how easy it will be to tape everything off so I don't mess up the rotors/pads etc.. :uh:


DaGnome 08-15-2009 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by Huey52 (Post 3171574)

I had seen this one, it's missing a few critical pics and honestly I couldn't even figure out where that first pic was from (Missing a reference point that I could identify, or perhaps just zoomed in too much for me).

This one I also looked at but only mentions how to swing it out.. no mention of how to remove it, and exactly how to put it back on correctly.... I almost went this route...

Finally.. you mentioned this link..
PERFECT! :icon_droo

I hadn't seen this one before, and it's not listed in the Alpha/Category sticky list for some strange reason... It's a bit hard to read due to lack of formatting, but by far it's the most comprehensive instructions I've seen, with great pics...

NOW I understand why everyone's been pushing to just mask it off.. OMG that's a lot of work.....

I tried to start the project today, thinking I had everything I needed...
Jack.. Check..
Jack Stands.. Check
Wheel Lock.. check...
Paint and materials.. check...

Then I ran into a few snags.. which required a few trips to Sears.. For anyone else who attempts this for the first time.. here's a list of items I neglected to make sure I had on hand..

1) Break-Bar/Flex Wrench - Used to help undo the lug nuts, especially when tightened properly to the right torque.. that little 10' wrench in the RX8 Toolkit simply does NOT have the right leverage.

2) To go along with the wrench, a 21 MM 6 point socket. (Strangely my tool kits all only had 19 or 22mm.. and all 12pt.. ) The 22mm probably would have worked but didn't want to risk stripping anything.. NOTE: Home Depots selection of sockets is dismal these days.. Sears Had the right one for about $6.50 among the other hundred or so sizes.

3) Torque Wrench to put back on the nuts properly. I never used a torque wrench before on my old cars..I just kinda tightened till I 'felt' they were good. I don't think you should risk it on the RX8.. Wrenchs can run quite a bit of $$... locally I can't find a good one under 79bucks... however I'm looking at a few off the internet:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...itemnumber=239
or
http://www.amazon.com/Michigan-Indus...0387974&sr=8-3

Perhaps someone has an opinion of a good one under $50? Or will these suffice for light duty? I'm leaning toward the amazon simply because it appears to also include an adapter I can use with my other tools which all are 3/4' (I only plan on rotating tires, and perhaps a few minor items)

Note: Make sure whatever one you get that it's rated at least over 100torque.. reason is our wheels are rated at something like 65-85 lbs.. and the smaller wrenchs usually stop at 75. Also pay attention to the driver size.. make sure it's the same size as whatever socket/break-bar you get so they are all interchangeable.

4) Finally... the Jack.
I just got this model from Sears, for over half off during last weeks sale.. $39.99!! http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00950140000P Looks like a decent light-weight system. Also bought 2 extra stands for the rear.

Now as a few others have noted in various threads... the RX8 is VERY low, even at stock. Most jacks will have trouble fitting under the front.. and even those that do, often have issues pumping the jack due to clearance. I've not solved this yet myself.. still debating which route to go.. the main two options I've seen are A) Use ramps (or some used 2x4's) to get a few extra inches to start, while using the front jack point.. or B) use the side rails with some sort of notched wooden block or foam/rubber padding on the side rails where the normal jack would be used. (a Spring Coil Booster works good I'm told).

Make sure you have all those 4 points covered before even thinking of starting a project like this.. most of the DIY I've read about 'assume' the user has these tools already and is familar with them. I suppose a decent 'home-mechanic' might.. but for those of us who never had the time before (Thank you Wall-Street!) we might need to spend a bit to get our toolset up to date.

Welp.. tommorrow I'm off to solve my jack issue.. then the 8 goes up.. hopefully I'll have enough time to at least clean 1-2 wheels of rust before I need to go anywhere.... I figure this weekend I'll clean all the rust.. then next weekend, a light cleaning again + paint. (Should be easy with the rust gone i hope)

Anyway.. thanks for that link Huey, It definitely helped me choose not to bother taking them off!

Huey52 08-16-2009 06:10 AM

Most of my tools are from Sears (Craftsman), Northern Tool, Autozone (Duralast), and Harbor Freight (the latter for lesser used items). The Harbor Freight torque wrench is fine, but as you're building up your tools the Amazon linked is probably preferable as you cite it has the adaptors you may need. I prefer an ol' school click type as well. I can't be bothered looking at a needle. ;)

Yup, an 18" breaker bar is a must. Autozone has a good one.

Get a "race jack." The very low profile is just right. 1.5 or 2-ton is fine. I can get to my front center jack point (just aft of plastic undercover) with the low profile jack, and that's the lowest point. Some other typical:

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=67022

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000NPULJC/...SIN=B000NPULJC

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...ment+%26+Jacks

http://www.calcarcover.com/product.aspx?id=324&cid=

Also get a set of Rhino Ramps (Autozone or similar) for when you don't need to remove the wheels but still need clearance e.g. oil changes.

http://www.rhinoramps.com/12000.html

Wheel chocks are a good safety item as well.

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=96479

It's not really that hard to take off the calipers/rotors. Proper tools, take your time, don't force anything, and you'll be fine. But masking for caliper paint will also work aok.

rexybrad 09-06-2009 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Alexb (Post 3054555)
I'm debating doing black with white decals, or white with black decals

I drive a BB....

Any input? (This is actually a repaint from blue)

heres mine with the stickers on front and back
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coments welcome

laythor 09-06-2009 12:07 PM

just a note to all the guys using the decals on your calipers. The decals are best used as masking for the base coat of color you put down before the top color. If you want white lettering on your caliper you would put a base of white on that area, wait for it to dry, put on the decal over the white paint, then paint everything your top color (ie black). Once you were done painting you would remove the decal exposing the white paint beneath.

I don't think a vinyl decal is going to hold up for very long on our calipers.

Bdgreat1 05-08-2010 08:07 AM

bump

Bdgreat1 05-11-2010 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by Huey52 (Post 3172773)
Most of my tools are from Sears (Craftsman), Northern Tool, Autozone (Duralast), and Harbor Freight (the latter for lesser used items). The Harbor Freight torque wrench is fine, but as you're building up your tools the Amazon linked is probably preferable as you cite it has the adaptors you may need. I prefer an ol' school click type as well. I can't be bothered looking at a needle. ;)

Yup, an 18" breaker bar is a must. Autozone has a good one.

Get a "race jack." The very low profile is just right. 1.5 or 2-ton is fine. I can get to my front center jack point (just aft of plastic undercover) with the low profile jack, and that's the lowest point. Some other typical:

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=67022

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000NPULJC/...SIN=B000NPULJC

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...ment+%26+Jacks

http://www.calcarcover.com/product.aspx?id=324&cid=

Also get a set of Rhino Ramps (Autozone or similar) for when you don't need to remove the wheels but still need clearance e.g. oil changes.

http://www.rhinoramps.com/12000.html

Wheel chocks are a good safety item as well.

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=96479

It's not really that hard to take off the calipers/rotors. Proper tools, take your time, don't force anything, and you'll be fine. But masking for caliper paint will also work aok.


Hey I know this is an old thread but I wanted anyone's opinion on this jack and stand combo from Torin .

Has anyone used this product before and is it of decent quality? Theres an even cheaper one for $50 but the stand aren't included and its max lift is around 13" vs this one which is like 17+". Gunna be painting the cailipers and eventually doing other projects down the road so I figured its time I make the investment.

laythor 05-11-2010 12:30 PM

a jack and stands are one of those items that you want to pay a premium on. I'd rather pay more up front then have to text for help because my car is resting on my lungs

Bdgreat1 05-11-2010 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by laythor (Post 3554089)
a jack and stands are one of those items that you want to pay a premium on. I'd rather pay more up front then have to text for help because my car is resting on my lungs

lol I don't think you'll be texting for help on account of the fact that you'll be DEAD if these were to fail while you're under the car...very valid point.

WTBRotary! 06-01-2010 01:03 PM

Can anyone confirm G2's Brake Caliper paint in Blue to be a close match for Winning Blue or would I be better just buying their black?

Bigbacon 06-01-2010 01:03 PM

dont know about G2, but the Dupli-color is pretty close minus the metallic part.

WTBRotary! 06-01-2010 01:10 PM

Well the thing about Dupli-color is their paint is only heat resistant to like 450° F, G2's is 900°F + .... So, plus I've also heard great things about G2... Was just wondering about the matching of the blues and if they'd be off a little too much to notice...

mcwheels 06-01-2010 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by laythor (Post 3554089)
a jack and stands are one of those items that you want to pay a premium on. I'd rather pay more up front then have to text for help because my car is resting on my lungs


I don't think this can be +1'd enough.

Huey52 06-02-2010 06:20 AM

Just go with G2 black caliper paint and you'll have no blue-matching worries.

Here's an online color chip fwiw: http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/acces...tail.jsp?ID=41


Originally Posted by WTBRotary! (Post 3581523)
Can anyone confirm G2's Brake Caliper paint in Blue to be a close match for Winning Blue or would I be better just buying their black?


Bigbacon 06-02-2010 07:24 AM

my dupil-color paint survived a track day with no problems...just saying. though an extra 500 degree buffer is certainly better.

Here is a pic from my car

https://www.rx8club.com/album.php?al...ictureid=15193



and remember, the colors you see on a website are always going to look much different then the real color (looking at the generic swatches on the G2 website)

WTBRotary! 06-02-2010 09:26 AM

Good idea guys, thanks Huey and Bacon. I'm probably gonna buy 2 things of G2 so I can paint the inside of my rotors, you know the place that rusts. I don't think 1 system is enough for 2-3 coats on the calipers and rotors...

Huey52 06-02-2010 09:37 AM

With one G2 kit you can get two coats on the calipers, which is all you need, with enough left over to do the rotor inner rings. You have to work somewhat quickly tho' as there's a definite "shelf life" after being mixed. If you've got everything apart and cleaned on a bench (recommended) piece o' cake tho'.

Bigbacon 06-02-2010 10:07 AM

the dupli-color isn't a mixture and it will coat a lot more than twice it seems. I did two coats on mine and there is still TONS of paint left in the can.

But it is super easy either way, and the brush on is fool proof. I think it took me no more than 45 minutes to do all 4 and thats with jacking the car up and taking the wheels on/off for each corner.

I wish I hadn't bothered with spray on the first time.....huge PITA

WTBRotary! 06-02-2010 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by Huey52 (Post 3582584)
With one G2 kit you can get two coats on the calipers, which is all you need, with enough left over to do the rotor inner rings. You have to work somewhat quickly tho' as there's a definite "shelf life" after being mixed. If you've got everything apart and cleaned on a bench (recommended) piece o' cake tho'.

Ehh I dont feel like taking my brake calipers off lol, I dont want to make this thing a huge ordeal, im just gonna tape off the places where I dont want tape and just paint the calipers while their on the car, I guess 2 coats will be enough but do you think theres enough for the inside of the rotors? :dunno: Id like 2 coats on them if possible, and the shell life after being activated says 4-6 hours so im covered there...

Huey52 06-02-2010 12:52 PM

^ I hear ya; it is a bit of work, but I was replacing my rotors and pads at the time, so I benched them. You can certainly mask effectively and the G2-kit supplied brush is well suited.

I found the paint got tacky well before the 4 - 6 hour limit and it was a fairly cool day in early Spring. But again 2 coats went on the caipers easily and I'm sure the rotor rings wouldn't take long as you can simply rotate them for ease of application.

FoxeyL8y 06-04-2010 01:02 AM

I'll be painting my calipers as soon as I get my polak decals in the mail... but I cant decide exactly what I want.
My 8 is Nordic Green, with black and chrome wheels.
I'm either going to paint all 4 calipers glossy black, with a silver/chrome RX-8 stenciled on just the rear calipers OR paint the front calipers silver/chrome, and the rears as previously mentioned.

Thoughts?

laythor 06-04-2010 02:03 AM

paint them all one color or scheme... different colors will look off

***andrey06*** 06-08-2010 01:25 AM

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Here is my Winning Blue Rx8! I painted my hubs black and the calipers red because it was too rusty. I think it turned out very good for a first timer.

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***andrey06*** 06-08-2010 01:31 AM

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Here are the side views of my 8 with red calipers.

Attachment 157453 Attachment 157454

laythor 06-08-2010 11:42 AM

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here's a cruddy pic of mine while i was having new wheels put on.

Attachment 259028

RX8guitarman 07-05-2010 07:02 PM

This forum is excellent! I just bought a 2006 RX8 with 18k miles and needed a bit of help on how to get into the engine air filter box. The owners manual was of no use. After watching a video someone posted here, it was cake. Thank you!

wcs 07-05-2010 08:55 PM

Uummmmm huh
why post this comment in the Painting brake caliper DIY

laythor 07-05-2010 11:45 PM

cause he was excited

RX8guitarman 07-06-2010 09:19 PM

Sorry...wrong thread
 
Yeah, I guess when I navigated to a response about a DIY for air cleaner removal, I ended up in your brake discussion. Hope I didn't offend you somehow....

alex.hamrick16@gmail.com 09-21-2010 10:42 PM

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I did the same thing with mine. Got a little carried away under the hood too. Thanks XcelR8! :D Great idea!


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