alnielsen

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I wonder what octane gas they are tuning with.

mikeschaefer

Whoever does the tuning will probably tune with all octane levels. Have you read their site or their forum?

And anyone asking about hp levels should be reminded that the most important part about this device is that it is a tool with which tuners can make their own maps. Power levels will be determined by the aggressiveness of the tune.

I'm more interested in what our resident rotary tuning pros think about the differences between MAF tuning and MAP tuning. Someone said that the stock MAF will limit max HP but if you read Trey's response on their forum it seems that the stock MAF is almost limitless.
The big pro that Trey said about MAF tuning (and I havent' heard any differing opinions) is that once you create a tune at an aggressiveness level you like you can do some things without rewriting the tune (in some cases you just input new injector size, or new MAF housing size, allowing the device/software to rescale the tune for you):
1) increase boost
2) change the turbo
3) change the injectors

Japan8

TeamRX-8... what caused you to jump ship for the RB flash?

mikeschaefer

I'm guessing he made the deal with RB before he knew the Access Port was "coming out soon," if there's any truth to that phrase anyway. :P Not to mention that the "autocross finals" (for lack of the proper term) was/is coming up soon and he needed an edge right away.

Renesis_8

It is true, since MAF measures only flow, by enlarging the MAF housing size, you're slowing the flow down, but with a larger diameter, you're flowing more air. We can alter the diameter to compensate for the limit of the stock MAF flow rate.

We just have to wait and see when they'll release it, I heard its their top priority among Mazdas.
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portero23

Small update - The MAZDA category has been added to the top of their website, among Subie, Mitsu, Nissan, and Infiniti... It's coming!

r0tor

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It will be 1st qtr 2007 until its out... they need to get AccessPort 2.0 harware in stock in decent quantities first and then re-rollout all the Subie applications

TeamRX8

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my recommendation is to at least get the RB flash, if you get AccessPort at a later date you can copy & save the RB flash as the base map. You can then use it as the basis for further tweaking. You'll also never have to worry about sending the PCM back to RB for reflashing after taking it to the dealer. You can always drop it back in yourself.

Japan8

Better off with the true Mazda flash. In case you need to appear stock when going in warranty repairs, and also for when trying to resell the car and you want to return it to stock form.

Astral

The RB flash is pretty much invisible to Mazda techs, so I wouldn't worry about warranty repairs.

Renesis_8

I think the Cobb unit will come with a NA flash thats simliar to the RB one. There is no point to get the RB flash once this comes out. And its so much easier too. Well unless you live close to RB.
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Japan8

Unless MNAO decides that they need to pull your ECU as part of the repair... and then THEY would find the RB flash. And the ECU removal and shipment to MNAO has happened before.

TeamRX8

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Assuming they're going to do a step by step analysis of each and every fuel map point, that's not very likely. The OE flash use is a good point though, but I think you can save that too if you had access to it. The RB flash is here now, the question is whether or not you want to wait. AP is coming, but it may be longer than projected or maybe not. There's no way to know for sure.

Japan8

Nah... things like the checksum would differ. It'd be noticable if they were looking for something wrong. No... it's not obvious... that's why you're likely to have no problems at the dealer for normal servicing and warranty repairs.

If you've waited this long for flash tuning to come out, what's another 3 or 4 months? If you like just tossing around extra several hundred dollars... I know I don't have that kind of money to tosss around. If you do... do you mind sharing with the rest of us?

r0tor

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all the mechanic has to do to find out if you have a RB flash is rev the **** out of the engine and see where the rev limiter kicks in at... take all of 1 sec to find out

Japan8

that's right... RB changed the rev limit... DOH!

TeamRX8

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LOL, the OE tach is off by a mile anyways, and why would a tech be redlining your engine unless be was out beating the p-ss out of it

I have the RB flash and will be 1st in line for an AP when it comes out, no regrets here The AP won't be for everyone, you can definitely tune your engine to blow up if you make a mistake and if you only intend to use their std program the RB flash will be a lot less expensive

r0tor

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the reason i happen to know this is because I know a VW mechanic that does this from time to time to check up on people - just pulls the car in, give the throttle a healthy blip and if the redline isn't approximately where it should be he knows something is up.... since just about all the VW maps are switchable, you have to be an idiot not to switch it back to stock before bringing it in - but idiots do exist


our tach is off a bit at 9k rpms, but if it hits 10k before the redline kicks in your instantly busted...

unreal89

when you say off at 9k.. do you mean when it shows 9k its past 9k or below 9k?

Renesis_8

I believe its about 500rpm off when ur at around 9000rpm. It reads higher.
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Astral

I see your point, but it doesn't actually cross 10K. It looks like it gets to about 9800, whereas stock gets to about 9300.

TeamRX8

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You're no more "instantly busted" for that than any other mod you may have

Nemesis8

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Well, it's a new year - any updates?

TeamRX8

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they're pretty caught up with the initial AP2.0 release, it's still coming for the SE3P ...

solito77

Cant wait! ...How much?$$$$$$$$$