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Old 04-10-2007, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
Why would you want to do that? Power is already falling off before redline as it should. Raising the rev limited isn't going to do anything for power or performance. If you did raise it and changed nothing else and tried to shift higher, you'd find that you are actually slower. Leave it alone. More is not always better and in most cases isn't.
i want to do this because in autox i can usually stay in 1st but i often hit the rev limiter just before i need to slow down anyway. if i had a slightly higher rev limit, i could keep pushing (even if im not making peak power) and according to RB 9300 would be safe.

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NEM right RG wrong
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actually, i think RG specified that if you raise the rev limit and changed nothing else i wouldnt see a gain in performance. Nem said if you change the AFR then gains can be found, so both people are right i believe

in either case, i dont want to do so to gain power, i just want it to be able to stay in gear longer for autox
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The intake manifold isn't tuned to go any higher. If you only want to raise the limiter so you can avoid hitting it for a second or two in an autocross, that I can completely understand. Then again I've also never seen any reason to ever shift back down into first in an autocross either. You must have some damn tight corners.
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the courses arent usually so tight that id be required to down it to 1st again, but with careful throttle control its nice to have more power at your foot i just find im able to get faster times if i dont have to shift
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2nd gear all the way for me 99% of the time. Then again I am not really that competitive so I'm not one of these guys that critiques every run I make to gain a few tenths on the course.
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except it can and does go highter and still make power with the RB flash. it stops making power wher it does because of the Mazda tune. With the tune a little leaner up there the car can continue to make power past the original red line.
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so back to my question :D do you all suppose the accessport will allow me to raise the rev limit?
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so back to my question :D do you all suppose the accessport will allow me to raise the rev limit?
It will be an option if you get the Streetuner. You also may be able to request it on a base map.

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thanks for the tip, damn now i must spend more money
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Originally Posted by Ike
It will be an option if you get the Streetuner. You also may be able to request it on a base map.

Really? And who told you this, because as far as I know these details for the RX-8 software have not yet been revealed?
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does that mean its coming out soon, and Ike is on the inside?
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more than likely it means he's reading the Subaru literature and assuming it will be the same ...
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more than likely it means he's reading the Subaru literature and assuming it will be the same ...
Sort of, I just know how the Subaru unit works and other units for other cars. However, raising the rev limiter is not a difficult thing to do with units like this on any car. If they've cracked the ECU enough to be able to tune it well, raising the fuel cut is easy as pie.
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I'm not saying it won't, only questioning it being stated as a known fact ...
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We're pushing for as soon as possible. Spring may be a little optimistic at this point (we're in April already) but depending on your definition of spring and summer we should be inside that time frame. Obviously the earlier the better, for all involved.

We've had to address some concerns on the AccessPORT unit itself. Keep in mind its rather new for us as well, so we've wanted to work out some of the kinks in it before jumping out into new markets. We just had a few more kinks than we originally anticipated when we first started talking publicly about supporting the RX-8. Sorry about that delay.

Reflashing the RX-8 isn't the hard part, and not the reason for the delay. It's all down to getting the AccessPORT up to snuff and our CAN cable fully sorted. Once that's done, we'll be ready to get this out to you guys.

Thanks for your patience,
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wonderful so if i understand correctly, its pretty much the whole upgrade to accessport 2 thats the hold up?
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wonderful so if i understand correctly, its pretty much the whole upgrade to accessport 2 thats the hold up?
yep,

hardware not software.

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One of the reasons I was interested in the RB reflash was the change in the radiator fans operation. Hopefully a similar change can be made via the accessport as I would like to be able to easily reflash it incase the dealer does so without my consent, and or I feel a different profile is merited for track vs street use.

I am concerned however about the potential for causing damage with a bad map. I know next to nothing about tuning rotaries. I do know that pre-detonation can = game over, and there is tremendous degree of complexity in tuning these motors. I don't want to start messing with these things myself. The RB flash is appealing in that its known to be safe. I worry about accidentally doing something foolish with the accessport and paying the price in bits of rotor housing and apex seals all over the road.

thoughts?
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This is why you should take it ONLY to a reputable tuner...not some shmuck who thinks he knows how to tune a rotary because he can slap on a coffee-can muffler.

The AP should provide an interface to change lots of variables and I am sure that one of them will be the fan operating modes. Some things you might feel comfertable doing yourself.

Now if you can practice self-control and prevent yourself from mucking with your own tune then your apex seals have a chance...one day I'll try to follow my own advice too...
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Originally Posted by eforer
One of the reasons I was interested in the RB reflash was the change in the radiator fans operation. Hopefully a similar change can be made via the accessport as I would like to be able to easily reflash it incase the dealer does so without my consent, and or I feel a different profile is merited for track vs street use.

I am concerned however about the potential for causing damage with a bad map. I know next to nothing about tuning rotaries. I do know that pre-detonation can = game over, and there is tremendous degree of complexity in tuning these motors. I don't want to start messing with these things myself. The RB flash is appealing in that its known to be safe. I worry about accidentally doing something foolish with the accessport and paying the price in bits of rotor housing and apex seals all over the road.

thoughts?
Have you looking into the Mazsport Fan Modification?
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-aftermarket-performance-modifications-23/brillos-test-mazsport-fan-modification-97975/
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can't wait for the Accessport to come out!!!!!!!


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