Adaptronics stand alone rx8 ecu
11-18-2019, 05:11 PM
#376
Matt who has the NA 20B PP thread in the Rotary swaps area installed one on his NA Renesis street/track car a month or two ago and seems pleased with it last I heard from him. Likely still at least January before mine is going to be going. Still have some fab work to finish before getting to the additional ECU wiring for added sensors, dash display, etc.
one thing I am a bit frustrated about is there doesn’t seem to be any info anywhere for CAN support on addresses and such. I know the Immobilizer can be turned off, but no info about how you handle it if turned on and so on.
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one thing I am a bit frustrated about is there doesn’t seem to be any info anywhere for CAN support on addresses and such. I know the Immobilizer can be turned off, but no info about how you handle it if turned on and so on.
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11-18-2019, 05:20 PM
#377
Matt who has the NA 20B PP thread in the Rotary swaps area installed one on his NA Renesis street/track car a month or two ago and seems pleased with it last I heard from him. Likely still at least January before mine is going to be going. Still have some fab work to finish before getting to the additional ECU wiring for added sensors, dash display, etc.
one thing I am a bit frustrated about is there doesn’t seem to be any info anywhere for CAN support on addresses and such. I know the Immobilizer can be turned off, but no info about how you handle it if turned on and so on.
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one thing I am a bit frustrated about is there doesn’t seem to be any info anywhere for CAN support on addresses and such. I know the Immobilizer can be turned off, but no info about how you handle it if turned on and so on.
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The immobilizer was another problem area for me. I got the Adaptronic to work with the immobilizer but on multiple occasions the Adaptronic randomly "forgot" the immobilizer code. When this happened the car would start fine then turn off after 5 or so seconds. If I didn't have a laptop in the car to either disable or re-learn the immobilizer code I would have been stranded. Probably not a big deal for a track car.
11-18-2019, 05:24 PM
#378
Team - regarding the CAN addresses, I had also asked that question and got the following response from Adaptronic support. In short, you can get that info within Eugene. Is this what you are after?
"Can you check this video link please and see if this answers your questions? Please watch until the end.
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"Can you check this video link please and see if this answers your questions? Please watch until the end.
11-18-2019, 06:56 PM
#379
I watched it a long time ago, but didn’t remember them giving any detailed info. Based on the info at the end it looks like a list can be generated. I’ll have to look into that further once I get out to the garage and can pickup the ECU. Thanks.
there’s nothing on here about Matt’s Renesis RX8 that he installed the Adaptronic on. We just live near each other and talk once in a while.
there’s nothing on here about Matt’s Renesis RX8 that he installed the Adaptronic on. We just live near each other and talk once in a while.
11-19-2019, 09:09 AM
#380
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So far all I have seen posted is from users that haven't gotten their cars running yet.
I am not here to bash. I said it a couple posts ago and I'll say it again: I honestly would like to see this work. And by this I mean independent end-user reports. If I see this then I would even be interested in giving it another shot.
I am not here to bash. I said it a couple posts ago and I'll say it again: I honestly would like to see this work. And by this I mean independent end-user reports. If I see this then I would even be interested in giving it another shot.
Slash I know @MaD666MaX has his Adaptronic with a REW swap working great now. I've been chatting with him extensively over the past two months as I am planning a pretty similar build to his. I don't think he has a lot of details on his build thread about it since he recently switched from the Select unit, but I do know that he has full function of all the RX8 components (T/C, ABS, Cruise, Etc). Although he is not using the stock O2 sensor nor do I plan to use it; so that question (if it isn't already answered) is left untouched here.
11-19-2019, 09:48 AM
#381
11-19-2019, 09:54 AM
#383
Slash I know @MaD666MaX has his Adaptronic with a REW swap working great now. I've been chatting with him extensively over the past two months as I am planning a pretty similar build to his. I don't think he has a lot of details on his build thread about it since he recently switched from the Select unit, but I do know that he has full function of all the RX8 components (T/C, ABS, Cruise, Etc). Although he is not using the stock O2 sensor nor do I plan to use it; so that question (if it isn't already answered) is left untouched here.
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11-24-2019, 09:29 AM
#386
Just found another issue. After talking to others here in Europe with the Modular ECU, I came to a rather annoying conclusion.
Cars from pre 06 years had no issues with the OEM o² sensor and abs/tcs., While cars from 06 onwards, all had the OEM o² sensor not reading and abs/tcs lights stayed on.
Mine is a 07 and I have those issues aswell. I send adaptronic an e-mail. I hope they can come up something.
The o² sensor isn't that big of An issue as I have the wideband module, but I would like a working and/TCS unit.
Cars from pre 06 years had no issues with the OEM o² sensor and abs/tcs., While cars from 06 onwards, all had the OEM o² sensor not reading and abs/tcs lights stayed on.
Mine is a 07 and I have those issues aswell. I send adaptronic an e-mail. I hope they can come up something.
The o² sensor isn't that big of An issue as I have the wideband module, but I would like a working and/TCS unit.
11-24-2019, 11:01 AM
#387
'06 and newer has been emerging as the commonality with the O2 sensor not working. Mine is an '06 as well. At least they seem to have removed it as an advertised feature.
As for the ABS/TCS, which base map did you start with? I originally had the lights come on (and also A/C didn't work) when using the base map from the Adaptronic website but then Shawn pointed me to updated base maps that download into the Adaptronic directory. Using that updated base map cleared the lights for me and got the A/C. If you are already using the updated base map then maybe there are other differences.
As for the ABS/TCS, which base map did you start with? I originally had the lights come on (and also A/C didn't work) when using the base map from the Adaptronic website but then Shawn pointed me to updated base maps that download into the Adaptronic directory. Using that updated base map cleared the lights for me and got the A/C. If you are already using the updated base map then maybe there are other differences.
11-24-2019, 12:14 PM
#389
They went out as soon as I uploaded the updated map. Well, and then started the car. But I didn’t need to drive it.
Last edited by slash128; 11-24-2019 at 01:03 PM.
11-25-2019, 11:44 AM
#391
I got the proper settings for EUDM abs and TCS from adaptronic. Will test in the coming weekend.
Only one thing remains, and the Adaptronic tech hasnt said much about it. Is the ECU the end station of the canbus system in the RX8?
And also, on the INPUT tab, does the Wheel speed sensor 1 tab, has to be enabled or disabled?
Only one thing remains, and the Adaptronic tech hasnt said much about it. Is the ECU the end station of the canbus system in the RX8?
And also, on the INPUT tab, does the Wheel speed sensor 1 tab, has to be enabled or disabled?
Last edited by Knet; 11-25-2019 at 01:29 PM.
11-25-2019, 05:12 PM
#392
I was pretty sure EUDM was different. They’ve been updating both it and CADM specs over the last several months. However, some of it is determined by which version you have. The latest V2 version has hardware changes to make cruise and traction control on the CAN output that the early version can’t do.
I was wondering about the CAN position myself, but wasn’t too worried about it. Being an on/off termination selection makes it easy to figure out. The OEM wiring manual should indicate that. I seem to recall that the PCM is on the bus, so not an end connection, but my memory isn’t always the best.
I was wondering about the CAN position myself, but wasn’t too worried about it. Being an on/off termination selection makes it easy to figure out. The OEM wiring manual should indicate that. I seem to recall that the PCM is on the bus, so not an end connection, but my memory isn’t always the best.
Last edited by TeamRX8; 11-25-2019 at 09:46 PM.
11-25-2019, 09:00 PM
#393
You don't have to worry about terminating the CAN bus... I have added 2 devices in the ECU part of the bus and it didn't have any issues. The data I sent on the other hand was suspect. I haven't got it figured out yet so the immobilizer isn't a PIA. Sometimes it works... and others it just says NO. LOL.
Power steering and most of the dash stuff works....
Power steering and most of the dash stuff works....
11-26-2019, 09:04 AM
#394
Reply from adaptronic: terminate has to be ✓. Because it is on in all their rx8 maps they have. And wheel sensor 1 disabled. It doesnt do anything. I'll test again coming Saturday.
11-30-2019, 03:54 PM
#395
Installed the module today and the wideband in the exhaust, only to find out I forgot to get the crimp tool for the wires 
ECU found the module right away and showed which pins I needed to pin.
Anyway, uploaded the new basemap I got from Adaptronic and we'll see next week when I get the proper crimp tool for the wiring.
In the meanwhile, I found something in the manual that was with the ECU. On TunedByShawn's website, it says you can install a fuel temp sensor, but you need to give up cruise control, but in the manual it says it is the A/C Amplifier on that same pin location.
ECU found the module right away and showed which pins I needed to pin.
Anyway, uploaded the new basemap I got from Adaptronic and we'll see next week when I get the proper crimp tool for the wiring.
In the meanwhile, I found something in the manual that was with the ECU. On TunedByShawn's website, it says you can install a fuel temp sensor, but you need to give up cruise control, but in the manual it says it is the A/C Amplifier on that same pin location.
11-30-2019, 04:56 PM
#396
Installed the module today and the wideband in the exhaust, only to find out I forgot to get the crimp tool for the wires
ECU found the module right away and showed which pins I needed to pin.
Anyway, uploaded the new basemap I got from Adaptronic and we'll see next week when I get the proper crimp tool for the wiring.
In the meanwhile, I found something in the manual that was with the ECU. On TunedByShawn's website, it says you can install a fuel temp sensor, but you need to give up cruise control, but in the manual it says it is the A/C Amplifier on that same pin location.
ECU found the module right away and showed which pins I needed to pin.
Anyway, uploaded the new basemap I got from Adaptronic and we'll see next week when I get the proper crimp tool for the wiring.
In the meanwhile, I found something in the manual that was with the ECU. On TunedByShawn's website, it says you can install a fuel temp sensor, but you need to give up cruise control, but in the manual it says it is the A/C Amplifier on that same pin location.
My recommendation is to use a flex-fuel sensor even if you are going with pump gas only - Most pump gas cars have 10% ethanol in them and the joys of the flex-fuel sensor is it reads fuel temp as well!
If you are interested I have for sale a fuel-pressure / Flex-fuel kit that is plug in play for sale (used) pm if interested.
Cheers,
Shawn Christenson
12-01-2019, 03:24 AM
#397
Yeah I know, that was the plan, but I have to wait till after new year, funds account is a bit dry now... I'll send you a message when I am able to purchase. If you don't have it anymore, I'll buy new. I'll need an extra pressure and temp sensor for the oil aswell.
12-03-2019, 04:49 AM
#399
Just chill out already. There are a number of installations not on this forum or in this thread. What ecu are you going to install otherwise that has any history, let alone was intended specifically, for the application? There are a lot of issues with the factory ecu strategies that don’t get discussed here.
If anything this thread is more a testament about the people buying the ecu or who may be carrying on w/o having bought one yet than the actual ecu itself. Let’s take your post and reword it properly; your regret would be having not looked and done due diligence before you leapt and bought one, as one example. Now you’re here having second thoughts over what exactly?
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If anything this thread is more a testament about the people buying the ecu or who may be carrying on w/o having bought one yet than the actual ecu itself. Let’s take your post and reword it properly; your regret would be having not looked and done due diligence before you leapt and bought one, as one example. Now you’re here having second thoughts over what exactly?
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Last edited by TeamRX8; 12-03-2019 at 12:27 PM.
12-03-2019, 08:37 AM
#400
Also not to mention the population of this forum is lacking... most of my customers are not even on this forum (which you may now be one of them) and they are not having issues or complained of issues. Yes some people do have very real issues but most do not and the ones with issues that matter the most IE traction control and ABS those issues are address as fast as possible unfortunately not fast enough for some but they are top priority. Some issues like making the factory wideband O2 work is not a priority which has only been a problem for one person that I know of..