Baseline Automated Tuning Beta Now Available for Download
#52
Load goes in PSI scale not rpm scale.
RPM is always just RPM.
The accel PSI is used to calculate the base fueling for acceleration enrichment - I'll explain more once I release the accel fueling stuff; so you can ignore it for now.
LOAD = PSI - one is for MAF cars and one is for MAP cars.
RPM is always just RPM.
The accel PSI is used to calculate the base fueling for acceleration enrichment - I'll explain more once I release the accel fueling stuff; so you can ignore it for now.
LOAD = PSI - one is for MAF cars and one is for MAP cars.
#53
ok? now I'm confused on how to add the load into the scale seeing as it doesn't try and match with anything. Should I just add it in by 500 RPM incremants according to what I think should be the rpm vs. load. FYI- I think i'm lost but let me know if this is correct.
THIS IS A SCREEN SHOT OF THE MANIFOLD PSI I HAVE COMPLETED STARTING AT 2500 RPM TO 9500
THIS IS A SCREEN SHOT OF THE MANIFOLD PSI I HAVE COMPLETED STARTING AT 2500 RPM TO 9500
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Ahhh - the majical question. The short answer is yes; but you gotta realize where the data is coming from.
I haven't turned the MAF scaleing window on there yet; but it is in the software. What it does is measure the Airflow directly by using the fueling information (which is pretty exact since we know that 6ms of duration is always 6ms) and the reported AFR. If you have a log that shows AFR, MAF voltage and fueling info - I can reverse engineer and get you a table that shows the Airflow value based on either the Scale of RPM and Load - or just by voltage (all using averages). So you'll get a table that shows x amount of voltage = y amount of air.
Will that allow you to scale it correctly?
I haven't turned the MAF scaleing window on there yet; but it is in the software. What it does is measure the Airflow directly by using the fueling information (which is pretty exact since we know that 6ms of duration is always 6ms) and the reported AFR. If you have a log that shows AFR, MAF voltage and fueling info - I can reverse engineer and get you a table that shows the Airflow value based on either the Scale of RPM and Load - or just by voltage (all using averages). So you'll get a table that shows x amount of voltage = y amount of air.
Will that allow you to scale it correctly?
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Kane, if you have allready posted this somewhere then please show me. It would be nice once all the data that is needed to "get setup" is out there to have it all in one place.
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Don't say you're sorry. That shows remorse, none of which you should have since you're the one helping us. But since you said it....Jeez Kane! You're really letting us down here!
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#62
HAHA - this is always my problem; once I get it to work - I start to lose motivation to do all the extra stuff (like documentation, marketing, graphics, etc); when I can just go into my garage and play with the Vette.
But I gotta behave since I can only be slacking while it is free and in Beta mode....once it goes live that is a whole new story.
But I gotta behave since I can only be slacking while it is free and in Beta mode....once it goes live that is a whole new story.
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Acutally, I'm 90 miles from the new Pier Park complex. If you haven't been there since they built it, its a great place to hang out.
#70
Here is the outline I have. Please let me know if I am missing anything.
Baseline Help
Table of Contents
1 - Introduction to Baseline
What will you need
How it works
Importance of Standard Deviation
Interpreting Final Fuel Maps
MAF vs MAP Tuning
Then What?
2 - Baseline Set-Up Wizard
3 - Manifold Scale
4 - RPM Scale and Acceleration PSI
5 - Injector Set-Up
6 - Target AFR Table Set Up
7 - Importing Your Datalog
8 - Massaging the Logfile
9 - View Your Fuel Maps
10 - Create Your Tune
11 - Viewing the Tune Information
12 - Reset and Retune
Appendix
A - Decoding your MAF Sensor
B - How to Compare Tunes and Engine Modifications
C - What Kind of Information Can Baseline Provide
Baseline Help
Table of Contents
1 - Introduction to Baseline
What will you need
How it works
Importance of Standard Deviation
Interpreting Final Fuel Maps
MAF vs MAP Tuning
Then What?
2 - Baseline Set-Up Wizard
3 - Manifold Scale
4 - RPM Scale and Acceleration PSI
5 - Injector Set-Up
6 - Target AFR Table Set Up
7 - Importing Your Datalog
8 - Massaging the Logfile
9 - View Your Fuel Maps
10 - Create Your Tune
11 - Viewing the Tune Information
12 - Reset and Retune
Appendix
A - Decoding your MAF Sensor
B - How to Compare Tunes and Engine Modifications
C - What Kind of Information Can Baseline Provide
#72
Preview -
See more at www.ppo2performance.com - updated as I type.
Introduction
Welcome to the next generation of engine tuning. Baseline is a software built in order to provide for a statistically "perfect" tune; using a STANDARD process. The standardization is a key for this kind of tuning. PPO2 uses the physics involved in engine performance to calculate air flow, fuel and timing information. Since the physical process of an engine is exactly the same for any motor and EMS combo; the same software can be used and re-used on every single engine you will ever own.
The idea behind statistics (be it engine or politics); is to gather a large sample of information in order to make generalizations about the process in question. Luckily; modern fuel injected vehicles produce LOTS and LOTS of data. Each engine sensor works in conjunction with the computer / PCM / brain of the car in order to modify and adjust fuel and spark timing. This process occurs at an almost impossible speed (measured in the milliseconds - .001 second). Each of these feedback loops are saved in the form of an engine log; or history of the motor’s state as it runs. While the calculations to determine the optimal fueling and spark are simple in concept; performing them on a few hundred thousand individual engine states would take a long time.
You save these data logs from your Tunable EMS (Apexi PFC, Hondata, e-Manage, Motec, Cobb Accessport, etc.) and import them as a .CSV file into Baseline. Baseline then calculates the average values for each cell in your fuel map and using those average values; determines the optimal amount of fuel required to meet an Air Fuel Ratio Target that you have specified during the set-up process. Additionally; it will also calculate the fuel burn rate to determine the best time to initiate spark to meet a Target Maximum Combustion Chamber Target.
You can then view the Optimal Fuel and Timing map in Baseline and export them into Excel or print them out and then set up the new tune into your Tunable EMS. You can repeat the process as many times as you like; allowing Baseline to move closer and closer to your targets; each tune is saved individually and can be reviewed at any time. As Baseline continues to revise your tunes on each successive run, it will virtually “learn” your actual injector flow rates, MAF sensor voltage etc - thereby self-calibrating to both your individual vehicle and your sensors.
As Baseline is currently in a Beta mode; some specified features may not be active yet - but each new release will include more features. So be sure to check back often and get the latest downloads if the feature you need is not yet available.
Welcome to the next generation of engine tuning. Baseline is a software built in order to provide for a statistically "perfect" tune; using a STANDARD process. The standardization is a key for this kind of tuning. PPO2 uses the physics involved in engine performance to calculate air flow, fuel and timing information. Since the physical process of an engine is exactly the same for any motor and EMS combo; the same software can be used and re-used on every single engine you will ever own.
The idea behind statistics (be it engine or politics); is to gather a large sample of information in order to make generalizations about the process in question. Luckily; modern fuel injected vehicles produce LOTS and LOTS of data. Each engine sensor works in conjunction with the computer / PCM / brain of the car in order to modify and adjust fuel and spark timing. This process occurs at an almost impossible speed (measured in the milliseconds - .001 second). Each of these feedback loops are saved in the form of an engine log; or history of the motor’s state as it runs. While the calculations to determine the optimal fueling and spark are simple in concept; performing them on a few hundred thousand individual engine states would take a long time.
You save these data logs from your Tunable EMS (Apexi PFC, Hondata, e-Manage, Motec, Cobb Accessport, etc.) and import them as a .CSV file into Baseline. Baseline then calculates the average values for each cell in your fuel map and using those average values; determines the optimal amount of fuel required to meet an Air Fuel Ratio Target that you have specified during the set-up process. Additionally; it will also calculate the fuel burn rate to determine the best time to initiate spark to meet a Target Maximum Combustion Chamber Target.
You can then view the Optimal Fuel and Timing map in Baseline and export them into Excel or print them out and then set up the new tune into your Tunable EMS. You can repeat the process as many times as you like; allowing Baseline to move closer and closer to your targets; each tune is saved individually and can be reviewed at any time. As Baseline continues to revise your tunes on each successive run, it will virtually “learn” your actual injector flow rates, MAF sensor voltage etc - thereby self-calibrating to both your individual vehicle and your sensors.
As Baseline is currently in a Beta mode; some specified features may not be active yet - but each new release will include more features. So be sure to check back often and get the latest downloads if the feature you need is not yet available.
#74
ok again I'm a bit confused about the afr table. The loads I put in were for wot runs should I have built the Manifold scale from low to high load or am I right by having it the way it showing high load?