You got that right. I have spent a pretty penny getting to 194 myself and, although I have another car to use in case the 8 has to be sidelined, I like driving the car too much to let it sit and have mojor mods done to it.

 

White marks under the coils in general don't mean squat

water and dirt building up under there do the same thing

this is NOT how to tell if OE coils are bad



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The best NA mod is more cowbell.

 

That works for me ....




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I've gone back and cleaned up this thread. Of course someone will want to tell me i've done it wrong. but the only thing i'm going to fix from this point on is any continuance of the previous argument and I'm going to dig out that respect quote for Flashwing cause I know how much he'd like to have it as a keepsake


I wanted to quote the above snippets from page 1 to show that the whole argument started with these two people AGREEING on the point. people need to lighten up on both sides. Its kind of ridiculous.

 

flashwing's respect can be found in post 73

 

My Miata WAS supercharged (Jackson Racing M45 Kit w/ JR Powercard), then I went turbo (Greddy turbo kit w/ Greddy Emanage), and then I blew my motor because of a bad tune.

That's when I went and built my Miata engine. I was probably also one of the only guys to run a B6 engine as well.

It was cool for bragging rights and all, but seriously 139 whp? I could've been making close to 300 whp in that car for the amount of money I spent and still had money left over for aero parts and what not.

That's why I say Forced Induction > Naturally Aspirated if you want power. BUT.....I do not recommend FI for everyone. It takes calculated risks and one little hint of detonation can be the end of your motor. Even the best of the best here have blown their motors.

Power delivery and response on an ITB'd built-engine car was AWESOME. But it gets old when the turbo guys are passing you.

 

You could have even more power for less money by wedging a V8 in there...

 

^^^

I know!!! The kits were finally available AFTER I had finished by build. If I had the time to do it all over again, I would've went with the whole Flyin' Miata Holden LS2 V8 w/ factory ecu CTS rear end.

It would have only costed me a few grand more, but with 350 something horsepower out of the box and a curb weight of 2100 lbs. That's the stuff to have.

At the time though, it was expensive and only guys with fabrication skills were able to pull it off. Now they make kits (originally sourced from V8 roadsters).

 

Woohoo!

 

Hey man, is there such a "speed limiter" thing in an rx-8? if there is, how can I remove it??

 

^^^ Search

 

I'm NA but would like to go FI. but i still gotta alot to learn first.

 

WELL...This has gone crazy since I last visited.

I'm the OP and am surpised by all the discussions occuring here. I'm not suprised, however, at all of the emotion involved. We're a motivated and emotional bunch, but let's not kill eachother.

I've been busy trying to re-work my entire car, as EVERYTHING seems to be going wrong. I have my tranny pulled right now and in pieces (my drivetrain tranny, not my cross-dressing friend). Sorry I haven't re-visited here.

I do appreciate all of the comments, particularly those of Jedi and the many others who contributed to my request for information with actual, real-world experiences. That's what I was hoping for. While the car's in pieces, I will be upgrading the the BHR igntion system, replacing the header and putting on a high-flow cat. From there, all that will be left will be the Cobb tuned by MM for NA power. As I said before, I'm refraining from FI for reliability issues. This is my primary vehicle and I can't have the car in the shop more than on the road...even though it's been down from almost four months now!

 

just an FYI I've done pretty much everything you can do to an NA engine I'm putting down 218 whp. I believe there is another member that put down a little over 220 whp.

The top 4 things that will create power I'm going to list below in the order that create the most power.

1. Tighter clearance on the side seals (must use cut to fit side seals)

2. Street port intake and exhaust ports

3. Accessport

4. Removal of the cat.

Everything else is junk or for reliability. Sorry if this is repeat info, just figured it should have easy access.

 

Show me a dyno of a n/a rx8 doing 225 whp. Its just not possible with simple bolt ons

 

Take ethanol out of the equation and try again then

 

can someone tell me what is the difference between MazdaManiac and Racing Beat race tune?

Which one is better to get and why?

 

MM tune is custom for your car. RB is more generic.
MM tune is performed with a Cobb Accessport with which you can read engine codes and monitor the cars parameters.
RB tune is ship them your ecu they return it asap and it's done. MM tune takes time. Log the engine parameters, send them in, tune is returned, install new tune, repeat 3/4 times.

 

I think MM also raises the oil injection and he masks/can mask the OBD2 code for cat inefficiency.

 

so if I wanted a true race tune from MM I would have to log my car in order to get the proper adjustments?

do I need to buy Cobb Accessport or can I just borrow one from someone in the area and buy tuning service?

 

each AP is married to the vehicle you need an access port. you can do the logging on the street late at night.

 

that sucks and it makes the MM tune 2X more expensive than RB tune.

I did see some used AP for sale, how do you make those work on your car?

 

Its all degrees of perfection. On my car I got 12 hp from the RB tune, but it is above 8,000 rpm. I wanted some below that, but my car is not as lean on their generic tune as it could be.

An AP can be purchased used, but the sellor has to unmarry it from their car and you can't use MM tunes he did for them. You would then have to pay MM for the tune. Most used Cobbs go for $350, so you might as well just buy new from MM.

You also get logging, CEL resetting with the Cobb/MM package so it is worth it.

 

pretty close

https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...&postcount=414

and that was back in 2007, things have evolved since then ...