cretinx

Ok, I did a search, and I have yet to find anything that actually shows gains with the Canzoomer unit.

A lot of people are making ridiculous claims, like it adds 25-30 horsepower - I think this is bullshit, and I want to see some proof - either give me track times (slip required), or show me INDEPENDENT dynos.

Fanman

Try these posts :

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...ight=Canzoomer

16 whp gain

Also take a look at post #48 in this thread. Prober & Jason Hamilton have both gotten good gains from the product :

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...9&page=4&pp=15

Xyntax

Why don't you take a drive inside an 8 that has one. After driving my 8 with a modified Stage 2 map, I really can't tell the difference anymore. If I turn it off, which I haven't done in months, I would feel the difference. I have not made any adjustments since last Summer's tuning. I'm waiting for this Summer to come around again.

You know what, your post just gave me an idea. I really think it has made a huge difference in my car, so to prove it I'm going to get a dyno run. Perhaps this weekend. I'm going to post up for info on a dyno shop around my area :D

Snoochie

Well once my car gets tuned we'll have a dyno for sure. Yeah it may be slightly altered due to the porting job but ya know.......

nhk

yo xyntax,

I also wanna dyno mine. and I am at the san jose area.

I just called dynospotracing.com

85 for standard dyno (3-5 run)
125 with W/b dyno (means A/F)
185 for 1 hours dyno we can tuned there

I did my old car dyno there (4-5 times -- superchargered gsr). they are good

Xyntax

nhk, that's cool! Let's do this then...

https://www.rx8club.com/west-rx-8-forum-34/dyno-shop-around-san-jose-closer-53090/

nhk

www.dynospotracing.com

mikefrombarrie

Does the Canzoomer create a problem after acouple of thousand of miles with clogging up the Catalytic Converter?

nhk

I am not sure. butta I only have it like 2k on it. still going ok, maybe other can answer u

mikefrombarrie

I mean after lets say 20k you get it in to have it emission tested and it fails becasue the converters pluged??

RX8_Ownz

You can run the stock cat w/ stage 1 CZ.

Stage 2 CZ unit requires "replacing the stock cat".

I want to see some dyno proves as well.

Xyntax

Ok, here's the thing. I have been running Stage 2 and modified Stage 2 since last October. Everything is stock, so far no problems. If my Cat dies out, then it's due for a high-flow cat. I have also ran 87, 89, and 91 octanes. Stage 2 is kinda iffy when I'm running 87. I used to run 87 while having Stage 1.1 map coz it felt stronger than running on 91.

nhk

xyntax, did u mod ur stage 2 map, or the original from the canzoomer. I ran using 91 with high-flow cat.

Xyntax

Someone gave me the CZ Stage 2 map and then I made my own adjustments based upon it. Running stock cat until it dies, that way I will have a better measurement as to how much CZ stage 2 the stock cat could take :D

btw, how much was your high-flow cat? I might need to start thinking about which ones to buy soon.

jenkins-crew

where can you get a high flow cat and what the difference between that and a mid pipe?

brothervoodoo

High flow cat is exactly what it means (less restrictive air flow), if you get a canzoomer unit it will also have a resonator to keep the decibels down. An off road mid-pipe, as the name implies, is not intended for street use, as there are no catalytic converters on the pipe, thus these pipes are illegal in almost all US states.

cretinx

These dynos include other mods too.

I wanna see back to back runs of stock v. canzoomer.

dannobre

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BUY One...do the dyno's...let us know........otherwise ask nice :D

Your'e Kinda demanding for someone looking for information

Omicron

Kinda? I'd say that's a massive understatement.

Omicron

Dude, you'll get more flys with honey than with vinegar. Demand and act like everyone who has one of these things is lying and you **** everyone off. Ask nicely and you might get somewhere.

Now ask yourself this: Considering a dyno runs $80 and up in most places, how many people with NO mods who just slapped in a CZ unit do you think are going to hunt down a dyno shop and go the the PITA of getting it tested? There may be a few, but most folks with that mentality could care less about a dyno chart. They care if it makes their cars "seem" faster. The guys who get dynos done are the ones who are really working to make the car faster, and the CZ unit alone will not go nearly as far as it + high flow cat, flywheel, exhaust, etc. In other words, the guys who get dynos done are enthusiasts who are gonna do more to their cars than the ones that want a plug and play solution.

I was one of the early adopters of this unit, and while I got a baseline dyno done (~180 WHP) I have not done one since. Instead, I've been using my GTech Pro Comp to measure gains as I tuned the unit. Call me a liar all you like, but according to my GTech I've gotten to almost +25 whp consistantly. As have others. But maybe we're all liars who are deliberately misleading the whole community as part of some mass conspiracy for Canzoomer to take over the world one unit at a time. :p

Am I gonna run right out and get that test for you? Nope. Partially because my car has lots of other mods (which you obviously think invalidates the whole test) and partly because I'll be getting forced induction pretty soon and either using the CZ unit for engine management or selling it. I think you'll find many people who bought the CZ unit are in the same boat as me.

Fanman

Yeah but the guys have that stuff on for the dyno with the Canzoomer "On" & "Off." So the add ons are static. It would be different if the guy had a bone stock car, then added CZ, pullies, exhaust, etc. He essentially had the bolt ons on the car with the CZ unit, & then turned off the CZ unit & still had the stuff. The only change was he turned off the CZ unit. He did not take off or add on any other parts.

cretinx

I'm "demanding" because I know its basically bullshit and I wanna see some proof that it isnt.

brothervoodoo

Actually, what's bullshit is that canzoomer originally sold the unit as a "plug'n'play" bolt on which was supposed to have no user interaction besides installing it. It turns out is that you can get gains via the unit but it takes some tuning, know how and diagnostic tools. So, the gains can be realized but the bad taste of how it was marketed and the seemingly lack of vendor "presence" in the Vendor forum leave little to be desired.

"It seems" the only support for the product is coming from a few knowledgeable board members willing to help and have no direct affiliation with canzoomer.

RX8_Ownz

So where is Canzoomer anyway?

I guess he no longer posts in this forum.

r0tor

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mine was stock except for the cz... and that was with my 89 octane map, i have a spicier one for those special occasions