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Old 07-26-2008, 05:50 PM
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Emanage Ultimate Map

Ok, I got the emanage ultimate. My car isn't turbo'd yet. that will come in time..
I'm running some OBX headers, with a TurboXS race pipe and TurboXS Exhaust. It's running pretty rich at the moment.

Question is is there a Non-Turbo'd base map for the RX8. Mabey stock that I can Tune in on for the Bolt-on's to get a little more hp and lean it out a bit?
I bought the Emanage Ultimate Used. and I believe the current map in it is for a turbo'd rx8

I'm pretty new, But I learn fast. I've done some searching and came up with a bunch of threads that say "Use the Search function"

I want to learn on my stock, So when I do get the turbo in. I'll know what to do.

Thanks a bunch.

If i'm off on anything and look like a fool. Just remember, everyone needs to learn somewhere
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if it's a rx8 emanage map, it is pressure activated. So until you go into boost, it shouldn't be doing anything to your fuel.

my honest opinion is to sell it and get the accessport.
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I'm in the same position: want to run the emu connected but not changing anything until my kit is finished.

I was under the impression you can't run the std wiring NA since the aux ports are disabled as per https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-engine-tuning-forum-63/emanage-ultimate-turbo-upgrade-kit-findings-96973/
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Ahhh ok! So it won't allow you to trim fuel until you rewire the harness then?

So basically I'd have to rewire the harness, use scanalyser to find what my AFR's are at. (my a/f gauge say's i'm running alot richer now)

then subtract fuel until I get my afr into the right range correct?
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I'm still trying to work it out.
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Originally Posted by rotarenvy
I'm still trying to work it out.
You have GOT to be kidding me.
I've already COMPLETELY worked it all out. Why are you trying to re-invent the wheel?
Read the threads!
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yeah I know but I need to understand your interpretations and know how the thing works myself to implement the wiring changes.
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
You have GOT to be kidding me.
I've already COMPLETELY worked it all out. Why are you trying to re-invent the wheel?
Read the threads!
another example is the info you gave me on getting the AUX ports working.

"Just reconnect all the APV-related wires on the GReddy harness.
Check the shop manual."

I still needed to workout what you were talking about. I still needed to work out for myself how the AUX ports were controlled and which wires controlled it. I found two wires to the AUX motor disconnected but were they the only ones? so in effect while you may have worked it out you only dangle the worm for others.
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It'll take me some time as well, But I'm slowly starting to figure this out. Ultimate and harness come in tommorow, then I'll see where i'm at with it.

Come on 6 girls, 1 tub!

On another note. I installed my OBX header. I was checking out how MazdaManic rewelded his stock to make it into a turbo manifold. I still have my stock manifold. mabey I can try that as a project. after I get the manifold and turbo. the rest of the peices shouldn't be as hard to find.. what a pain it is trying to peice together a setup.. especially the manifold is almost impossible to find..
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Originally Posted by rotarenvy
another example is the info you gave me on getting the AUX ports working.

"Just reconnect all the APV-related wires on the GReddy harness.
Check the shop manual."

I still needed to workout what you were talking about. I still needed to work out for myself how the AUX ports were controlled and which wires controlled it. I found two wires to the AUX motor disconnected but were they the only ones? so in effect while you may have worked it out you only dangle the worm for others.
Have you looked at it in the shop manual?
Have you looked at my pin-out?
Have you read the wiring list?

There isn't anything else to know.

Here, I'll "throw you a bone".
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Have you looked at it in the shop manual?
Have you looked at my pin-out?
Have you read the wiring list?

There isn't anything else to know.

Here, I'll "throw you a bone".
thank you for sharing your knowledge.
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https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=96973
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-major-horsepower-upgrades-93/e-manage-ultimate-success-93286/
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Thanks for the DIY, GTAW.
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Will I need to change any wireing back when I go from NA to FI?
Will I need to reconnect the APV motor resistor?
Or would I need to change the Injector Input/output back to what it was Originally? Sorry for all the question, I might be going FI within the next 4-5 months.
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I hate to be "that guy," but have you tried searching? I believe MM has posted some really in depth stuff on the EMU already in another thread.

EDIT: hell, he already posted links to those threads in this thread!
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I did read that thread already. on hacking the harness for NA. What i'm wondering is if I'll have to change anything back in the harness/jumpers if I want to move to FI with the ultimate Kit.

I mean, Am I going to have to bypass the APV motor So I don't get a lean spike in a turbo setup. Since my car is NA. I oviously wouldn't want to bypass the motor. I'm just curious what will have to be put back.

Or the way MM setup the injector wiring. will I need to switch it back to default greddy once I go FI?

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Ok, sorry about that.. Like I said, I'm still learning. and still pretty new to turboing a car.

So from what I gather the block off Plate closes off the apv ports so that will stop your lean spike. I shouldn't need to put the wires back because the plate just closes them off anyways correct?

I'm definatly not rushing, I'm reading every good thread I can about it.. It's just taking it all in and understanding what needs to get done.
I tend to pick up stuff really quick. just wanted to check on my assumptions before I hack away at the wires of my greddy ultimate for NA. and record what needs to go back when I do go FI..

Working on a custom build with most of the better parts I find. No use of me buying the whole greddy kit if I already have the ultimate, and would have to toss the greddy turbo for a more "reliable" upgrade. reading all the fixes for it. and piecing out the best parts. and what I'll need.
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The APV bypass and blocking plate is kind of a cop-out by Greddy. I believe people have successfully tuned greddy turbo setups utilizing all of the available intake ports with the EMU, but I could be mistaken here. There are a few threads dedicated to the greddy turbo kit stickied in the "Major Horsepower Upgrades" section of the forum. You might find more info there.
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