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Old 06-27-2009 | 12:39 PM
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Hows this look? base turbo

Trying to get a base map put together that will let me safely drive the car around for some tuning and logging. I start tearing it down for the install tomorrow so I'm trying to get it put together. Still need to pull down the timing map as well. Shooting for excessively safe:

Updated with my V2

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Old 06-27-2009 | 01:12 PM
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You need to up your load to 2.
Old 06-27-2009 | 01:17 PM
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You need to up your load to 2.
ooooh yea..duh. Thanks Kane

Is there a way to do that globaly? Or will I have to modify ALL the tables individually?

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Old 06-27-2009 | 04:19 PM
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Gotta go one at a time.... thorough them all.
Old 06-27-2009 | 06:57 PM
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Gotta go one at a time.... thorough them all.
Thanks Kane Just got home from work and back to tinkering on it.

Ok I've redone the load for all the Air/fuel Gear and Timing maps. Do I need to do the same for the Closed loop tables and VE table? Or will it ignore those when I exceed that load and just go off my set A/F and Timing?
Old 06-27-2009 | 07:09 PM
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I am a stickler for detail... so I scale them all - but I don't think you have too - just the Timing, Fuel, Throttle, Accel, OMP type ones.
Old 06-27-2009 | 07:12 PM
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Roger, I'll do them all too then.
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I predict much bogging in your future LOL

Do some work on MAF scaling at low loads (kanes' thread) before you get too much into boost
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I predict much bogging in your future LOL

Do some work on MAF scaling at low loads (kanes' thread) before you get too much into boost
Lol yep!
Same way I did my vette though. Crazy safe then lean it up a bit at a time until I get a feel for how it reacts to the tuning.

I think since I went ahead and bought the Boost controller I'll try to set my WG up for 6PSI and tune it there until I get a tune nailed down.
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Updated OP with Load adjusted. Also added my timing maps
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It is very very safe.
Old 06-27-2009 | 09:16 PM
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It is very very safe.
Yay! I winz!

I Figure that will get me running enough to putt around and make sure I dont have any leaks or mechanical issues. Do a few logs and watch my wideband, get my MAF scaled then start pulling fuel

Also going to weld my exhaust tips on so they protrude enough not to set my bumper on fire
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Just watch your EGT's.... over-rich and retarded tends to make the motor and exhaust very warm...
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Just watch your EGT's.... over-rich and retarded tends to make the motor and exhaust very warm...
I thought that made Paris Hilton?

Yep, not going to do any long drives like this, just to do a run or two. I'm going to make a couple of other complete tunes with the fuel leaned out a bit more on each one. That way I can just step up to the next tune until I get close then start tweaking.
I actually live on a long, straight, sparsely populated road so I can go to the end of the road and back to get 1st-3rd runs in
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Feel free to use my MAF Scaling software as well if you like.

LOL @ Paris Hilton - that was the best answer I have ever heard.
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Feel free to use my MAF Scaling software as well if you like.

LOL @ Paris Hilton - that was the best answer I have ever heard.
You bet, I'll definetly give it a try. Thanks for all the input
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Just to note, the limiter tables (and others) need to be adjusted out to the proper load as well.

With that fuel table and a calibrated maf, you will not be able to get into boost. It'll bog first.

I would like to know what the highest load and highest RPM can be set to stoich on a load-based map, if anyone would like to comment.
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I do 50%; and no higher than 4500 RPM personally.
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Originally Posted by Kane
I do 50%; and no higher than 4500 RPM personally.
interesting - left mine pretty much stock in that range . That would improve fuel economy at high speed cruising a little i guess .
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Maybe just run with my next Leaner map fromt he start ?


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interesting - left mine pretty much stock in that range . That would improve fuel economy at high speed cruising a little i guess .
IIRC, stock is not stoich at .5 and 4500; it is less.



Originally Posted by Mawnee
Maybe just run with my next Leaner map fromt he start ?



Mawnee, this is very close to my starter map for 3/4 gear, tho mine is richer at high rpm and low load.

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IIRC, stock is not stoich at .5 and 4500; it is less.
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yes that's what I meant . If you set it to 1.0 it would be quite a bit leaner than stock giving you better economy at cruise ....
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Oh, I understand what you are saying now. Thanks.

And I appretiate the understanding for the threadjack, Mawnee. GL!
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Yeah once you lose the cat you can pull all kinds of fuel out of the lower load areas - honestly, if you really wanted to try - just keep leaning it out until it starts to buck at cruise.... I wouldn't - but me and Faille did get the FD to run 16.2 at cruise with no issues.

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Originally Posted by Kane
Yeah once you lose the cat you can pull all kinds of fuel out of the lower load areas - honestly, if you really wanted to try - just keep leaning it out until it starts to buck at cruise.... I wouldn't - but me and Faille did get the FD to run 16.2 at cruise with no issues.
Cool - might have to try this - run lean at cruise to make up for all that gas i use when the boost kicks in .....


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