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Brettus 10-25-2009 01:32 PM

/\ you are quite correct - my apologies . It takes some thinking to figure out what is happening

Lower the number on the Ve table and AFR will lean out . So you have to make a corresponding adjustment on the fuel table to add fuel .

rotarenvy 10-25-2009 06:46 PM

I taking a different approach. my MAF's are normally within 5% without calibration. however there are spots where I characteristically go lean. these coincide with where the valves are opening ie a change in VE. I going to try using the VE table to address these.

I don't believe that calibrating the MAF can compensate for these points properly as that would affect the rest of the MAF curve.

so which way is it?
I would have guessed .95 is a percentage and 95% of the target lambda would be applied. since lambda is smaller is richer, .95 would add 5% more fuel.

Tsar 11-02-2009 06:55 AM

Hi guys, here's a video i did rapidly this week end, acceleration is poor cause 4 wheels on the back seats and PCM not calibrated since new map the same day , but now my SP model revs to 9600 rpm :D :

http://www.youtube.com/user/Tsargate#p/u/0/blbPfYyOQh4

second gear goes to 131 km/h , here in france it's the legal speed limit on motorway :)

this new map will be tested on track this saturday, no CEL from the beginning and guess it will continue that way.

Brettus 11-02-2009 12:15 PM

hmmm - looks like the acceleration is good up to that rpm which surprises me on a 4 port ....

Tsar 11-03-2009 03:51 AM


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 3303981)
hmmm - looks like the acceleration is good up to that rpm which surprises me on a 4 port ....

yep, and the car was pretty heavy inside, and don't forget i have 19 wheels with 235-35-19 tires !

next saturday on track i will be running with 18 stock wheels, you will see what is the real potential on my next videos ;).

Herry 11-17-2009 02:07 AM

I bought it. First impression was very good. I could change many values of my car.
But my car is stopped, now. I have changed only speed limit. If you will use it, you have to back-up your ECU data.

Brettus 11-17-2009 02:46 AM


Originally Posted by Herry (Post 3320474)
If you will use it, you have to back-up your ECU data.

sounds like you erased your brain ?

I have done it and managed to resurect the ecu afterwards . Tricky but it can be done .

SymSym 11-17-2009 03:51 AM

What Hp gains or fuel efficiency gains can be made by the Pro Tuner on NA cars. I have not tried to tune my car at all other than the factory flashes. Is it easy to improve power or fuel efficiency or will a new user be more likely to make mistakes and make a mess of the engine mapping.

Herry 11-17-2009 03:55 AM


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 3320493)
sounds like you erased your brain ?



I have done it and managed to resurect the ecu afterwards . Tricky but it can be done .




Just to make sure. Case by case. All rx-8's ecu dosen't have same thing. Who knows what the future may hold in...

Brettus 11-17-2009 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by SymSym (Post 3320512)
What Hp gains or fuel efficiency gains can be made by the Pro Tuner on NA cars. I have not tried to tune my car at all other than the factory flashes. Is it easy to improve power or fuel efficiency or will a new user be more likely to make mistakes and make a mess of the engine mapping.

if you don't have any automotive skills and are not willing to spend a lot of time learning - it really is not a good move .
That said , 15hp or so is about the limit of gains that can be had just by tuning .

Brettus 11-17-2009 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by Herry (Post 3320514)
Just to make sure. Case by case. All rx-8's ecu dosen't have same thing. Who knows what the future may hold in...


:confused:

Tsar 11-17-2009 01:43 PM

Hi guys,

I tested my Version2 map on track and it was'nt good at all in fact :dunno: , lack of power at high revs, but still no CEL like i told you.

At first we did other changes and i even tested 9800 rpm on my SP model but the engine light went quickly on at that rev so we decided not go more than 9500 for future maps.

My friend who does the changes just put me a Version3 now and it is really better, engine is very agressive and still no CEL ;).

I just gave the files to Kazuma to test on his, i hope he will do a feedback on this topic, so you will know if the french guys are good or not in mapping :).

(here's a little fight with an FD friend when i had the V2 map last time on track, i only needed 2 and 3rd gear on this track with my 5 speed gearbox and map at 9500 rpm, but i know i should have passed 4th gear at times but i was abit lazy :))) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKdu1YYaZnY )

dmpriso 11-17-2009 01:53 PM

I've got questions about the ProLogger, is this the right place to ask?

Is there some information about the data format used for export/import available? That would be great, since CSV Export does not work correctly, here is an example:

Time;Load (%);Engine Temp (°C);Long Term Trim (%);RPM (rpm);Vehicle Speed (km/h);Timing (°);MAF (g/s);TPS (%);Air/Fuel Ratio
0;23;1372549019608;16;3;1248;2157;0;24;11;3;15;686 2745098039;14;74;0;0;0
0;2;23;1372549019608;16;3;1248;2168;75;0;22;11;7;1 5;6862745098039;14;74;0;0;0
0;4;23;1372549019608;16;3;1248;2206;25;0;21;11;65; 15;6862745098039;14;74;0;0;0


As you can see, the headers don't correspond to the values, and even the format of the values changes in between.

Another question, shouldn't be there more values than just the 9 ones in the logger tool? At least in the CSV there are more ...

Brettus 11-17-2009 01:58 PM

/\ My dudelogger logs are graphical which I find way superior to numerical .

dmpriso 11-17-2009 02:11 PM

My intention is to parse the values with my own program for better analysation.

dmpriso 11-17-2009 02:21 PM

I noticed that digits behind a comma are not separated by a comma but by a semicolon, which makes CSV export quite unusable, alas.

dmpriso 11-18-2009 02:56 AM

My fault with the CSV export. Of course, the values are separated by ",". But with German language setting, this is also used as comma in a number. So if I change the language settings, it works correctly.

fastlaneracing 12-15-2009 12:04 PM

Have somebody tested pro tuner in windows 7?

fastlaneracing 12-20-2009 01:32 PM

anybody?

Hymee 12-20-2009 05:36 PM

Azathoth,

The Pro Tuner software itself works, but I need to check the USB Device Drivers.

Cheers,
Hymee.

fastlaneracing 12-21-2009 08:45 AM

Thanks Hymee, I haven't registred my hardware that I got from you some months ago.

My old computer died in a thunderstorm, but my new computer arrived today and it comes with Win7. I'll test it out.

The registration only bindes the hardware to my car and not my computer if I understand it correctly.

Hymee 12-22-2009 04:38 AM


Originally Posted by azathoth (Post 3360028)
Thanks Hymee, I haven't registred my hardware that I got from you some months ago.

My old computer died in a thunderstorm, but my new computer arrived today and it comes with Win7. I'll test it out.

The registration only bindes the hardware to my car and not my computer if I understand it correctly.

Yep, when the first ECU re-flash has successfully taken place, the VIN is recorded in the hardware interface forever more. Unless you purchase extra VIN tokens, the hardware will not allow another VIN to be re-flashed. The licence does not restrict you to how many computers you run the tuning software on.

Cheers,
Hymee.

fastlaneracing 12-24-2009 07:30 AM

Good then I can test it out in my new win7 laptop, it that dosent work I get another old win xp just for tuning.

Have a good christmas Hymee, ill send my registration soon.

9krpmrx8 12-24-2009 08:42 AM

Windows 7 can run in compatibility mode by program :)

fastlaneracing 12-24-2009 09:48 AM

yeah you are right, it may work out.


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