Kane Tunes My car
05-25-2009, 11:39 AM
#51
looks like 2nd might need a little work in the afr dept. but we're still in a good range. i'll try a couple more pulls to see if those high 13s near 7k were just an anomaly.
thanks for that.
thanks for that.
Last edited by myriadshalaks; 05-25-2009 at 11:44 AM.
05-25-2009, 06:11 PM
#59
kane says, "nah".
could be too that i let off on the throttle slightly there by mistake. i was doing some second gear pulls a minute ago just watching the afrs in live mode, and i didn't see any 13s. so, i dunno. i'll ned to do some more logs to confirm.
But i guess just for aesthetics, i'd like to see them level out a bit more. though given what kane says, i don't think it matters too much.
overall, the car pulls harder and smoother, and there's more power available to me when I want it. i really can't imagine another NA mod that would come close to the difference realized here.
Originally Posted by kane
Meh... remember NA motor doesn't benifit much from 13.5 to 12.5... you get a pretty big sweet spot.
Plus the AFR's are actually delayed - so you can't take it too literal when looking at the transition areas.
Plus the AFR's are actually delayed - so you can't take it too literal when looking at the transition areas.
But i guess just for aesthetics, i'd like to see them level out a bit more. though given what kane says, i don't think it matters too much.
overall, the car pulls harder and smoother, and there's more power available to me when I want it. i really can't imagine another NA mod that would come close to the difference realized here.
Last edited by myriadshalaks; 05-25-2009 at 06:18 PM.
05-25-2009, 07:39 PM
#62
we made it better. lol.
kane will have to fill in the details. he did this while i was "testing map 2" (i.e., doing donuts with hellhammer).
can i just post the maps? not sure how i would do that on here, but if kane doesn't object, i'll give it a go.
also and otherwise, i'll take some logs tomorrow with a column for the timing (if it logs that .. does it?) -- i just selected the ones i understand. i'll need a longer lesson to know how to tune the timing.
kane will have to fill in the details. he did this while i was "testing map 2" (i.e., doing donuts with hellhammer).
can i just post the maps? not sure how i would do that on here, but if kane doesn't object, i'll give it a go.
also and otherwise, i'll take some logs tomorrow with a column for the timing (if it logs that .. does it?) -- i just selected the ones i understand. i'll need a longer lesson to know how to tune the timing.
Last edited by myriadshalaks; 05-25-2009 at 07:48 PM.
05-25-2009, 08:53 PM
#63
Yeppers... as she likes to say - I may wear the pants but she controls the zipper.
Nothing really crazy since we didn't have enough time to get the old Pyrometer readings nor a dyno. Typically the only thing I really do in those cases is push the timing by 1-3 degrees after the torque peak where Mazda saw fit to just flat line them.
Yeah man - so some Print Screens and post away... (Control)(Print Screen) then open like Powerpoint and Paste it (Control)(V) - then when you save the Powerpoint save it as a jpeg or gif.
As to really tuning timing - you need to really get comfortable with your cat temp sensor or get a pyrometer - AND OR get it on a dyno.... the old tune till it pings and back off method isn't really smart.
Nothing really crazy since we didn't have enough time to get the old Pyrometer readings nor a dyno. Typically the only thing I really do in those cases is push the timing by 1-3 degrees after the torque peak where Mazda saw fit to just flat line them.
we made it better. lol.
kane will have to fill in the details. he did this while i was "testing map 2" (i.e., doing donuts with hellhammer).
can i just post the maps? not sure how i would do that on here, but if kane doesn't object, i'll give it a go.
also and otherwise, i'll take some logs tomorrow with a column for the timing (if it logs that .. does it?) -- i just selected the ones i understand. i'll need a longer lesson to know how to tune the timing.
kane will have to fill in the details. he did this while i was "testing map 2" (i.e., doing donuts with hellhammer).
can i just post the maps? not sure how i would do that on here, but if kane doesn't object, i'll give it a go.
also and otherwise, i'll take some logs tomorrow with a column for the timing (if it logs that .. does it?) -- i just selected the ones i understand. i'll need a longer lesson to know how to tune the timing.
As to really tuning timing - you need to really get comfortable with your cat temp sensor or get a pyrometer - AND OR get it on a dyno.... the old tune till it pings and back off method isn't really smart.
05-27-2009, 12:32 AM
#75
forum is slow
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click the "sheets" at the bottom.
go here to get the zip
you'll need open office to see it. it'll be worth the download.
click the "sheets" at the bottom.
Last edited by myriadshalaks; 05-27-2009 at 12:39 AM.