Mazdaedit
03-03-2014, 02:34 AM
#626
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in other good news, ive got my copy of ME up and running again! I'm still a long way away for 100 flashes.
Could someone please post up an edited OMP table? im looking to bump mine up a little (above idle, under load) but I don't want to over do the top end of the table. what is the maximum figure that can be used in the table? im not looking to max it out, I just want to make sure im not using a pointless figure!
also, while I was looking thru the DBW tables, I noticed it generally maxes out at 84. now is that the actual open % of the TB, or does 84 represent the highest "step" of the stepper motor??
Could someone please post up an edited OMP table? im looking to bump mine up a little (above idle, under load) but I don't want to over do the top end of the table. what is the maximum figure that can be used in the table? im not looking to max it out, I just want to make sure im not using a pointless figure!
also, while I was looking thru the DBW tables, I noticed it generally maxes out at 84. now is that the actual open % of the TB, or does 84 represent the highest "step" of the stepper motor??
03-03-2014, 05:58 AM
#627
Driving my unreliable rx8
in other good news, ive got my copy of ME up and running again! I'm still a long way away for 100 flashes. Could someone please post up an edited OMP table? im looking to bump mine up a little (above idle, under load) but I don't want to over do the top end of the table. what is the maximum figure that can be used in the table? im not looking to max it out, I just want to make sure im not using a pointless figure! also, while I was looking thru the DBW tables, I noticed it generally maxes out at 84. now is that the actual open % of the TB, or does 84 represent the highest "step" of the stepper motor??
The omp maxes out at 60. I would multiply the whole table by 1.3 then reduce anything over 60 back to 60. On the low end 5-7. Too high and it will smoke while idling and daily driving.
84 is wide open throttle. Why? nobody here knows or they aren't saying. Experiment with it a bit. Set the lowest box to 50 and flash it then look at your throttle body. Try it at 75, 84, and 100 there is no differance between 84 and 100
03-06-2014, 07:51 AM
#629
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1.3 is a 30% increase, and I was worried that 10% might be too much. ill try 10% and see how that goes. changing any of the values from 3 to 6 (5~7) would be a 100% increase. I believe you when you say that would smoke at idle, even a 30% increase on 3 is only 4 (well, 3.9 recurring). I was planning on leaving the idle and low load areas of the OMP as they are.
I remember reading MM's thread on the OMP, and I remember seeing someone asking a similar question, but at the time I read it there was no answer.
also, I have a developing theory on why the TB would only open to 84% max, however if somebody with more experience than me said the actually % was 100, it would blow my theory away lol. I noticed when I logged data before I had ME, the throttle only ever got to 84, I thought at first it was an error in the OBD devices I was using. the data overlayed on the "best lap" vid in my sig has throttle displayed as the green bar next to the speed, if you look close, it never actually reaches the top.
the reason I asked those question here was I wanted to know if these limits were on the ECU, or if the ECU will happily output a signal corresponding to figures above 60 (OMP) and 84 (throttle body).
I remember reading MM's thread on the OMP, and I remember seeing someone asking a similar question, but at the time I read it there was no answer.
also, I have a developing theory on why the TB would only open to 84% max, however if somebody with more experience than me said the actually % was 100, it would blow my theory away lol. I noticed when I logged data before I had ME, the throttle only ever got to 84, I thought at first it was an error in the OBD devices I was using. the data overlayed on the "best lap" vid in my sig has throttle displayed as the green bar next to the speed, if you look close, it never actually reaches the top.
the reason I asked those question here was I wanted to know if these limits were on the ECU, or if the ECU will happily output a signal corresponding to figures above 60 (OMP) and 84 (throttle body).
03-06-2014, 08:11 AM
#630
1.3 is a 30% increase, and I was worried that 10% might be too much. ill try 10% and see how that goes. changing any of the values from 3 to 6 (5~7) would be a 100% increase. I believe you when you say that would smoke at idle, even a 30% increase on 3 is only 4 (well, 3.9 recurring). I was planning on leaving the idle and low load areas of the OMP as they are.
I remember reading MM's thread on the OMP, and I remember seeing someone asking a similar question, but at the time I read it there was no answer.
also, I have a developing theory on why the TB would only open to 84% max, however if somebody with more experience than me said the actually % was 100, it would blow my theory away lol. I noticed when I logged data before I had ME, the throttle only ever got to 84, I thought at first it was an error in the OBD devices I was using. the data overlayed on the "best lap" vid in my sig has throttle displayed as the green bar next to the speed, if you look close, it never actually reaches the top.
the reason I asked those question here was I wanted to know if these limits were on the ECU, or if the ECU will happily output a signal corresponding to figures above 60 (OMP) and 84 (throttle body).
I remember reading MM's thread on the OMP, and I remember seeing someone asking a similar question, but at the time I read it there was no answer.
also, I have a developing theory on why the TB would only open to 84% max, however if somebody with more experience than me said the actually % was 100, it would blow my theory away lol. I noticed when I logged data before I had ME, the throttle only ever got to 84, I thought at first it was an error in the OBD devices I was using. the data overlayed on the "best lap" vid in my sig has throttle displayed as the green bar next to the speed, if you look close, it never actually reaches the top.
the reason I asked those question here was I wanted to know if these limits were on the ECU, or if the ECU will happily output a signal corresponding to figures above 60 (OMP) and 84 (throttle body).
With the OMP .... I believe that if you put too big of a number there the adjustment arm can fall off the gear wheel .
I just scale both maps by 10% (nothing over 60) which means the lower numbers (eg 3) don't change at all .
03-06-2014, 10:21 AM
#631
Driving my unreliable rx8
Theres a bunch of people who premix and thats not for me so i just upped the rates some extra. All my 3 s became 4 and i wanted a little more so i bumped them to 5. MM said that it will smoke at 7.
Ive even raised the lowest three load rows and went down in increments of 5. So 9000 rpm=60, 8500-55, 8000-50 and so forth until it was at stock levels. That way after driving hard i let it idle down and have some extra oil in there relubing the walls well and cooling down the side seals.
Now i have do nit have a cat to worry about.
Ive even raised the lowest three load rows and went down in increments of 5. So 9000 rpm=60, 8500-55, 8000-50 and so forth until it was at stock levels. That way after driving hard i let it idle down and have some extra oil in there relubing the walls well and cooling down the side seals.
Now i have do nit have a cat to worry about.
03-06-2014, 12:43 PM
#632
Theres a bunch of people who premix and thats not for me so i just upped the rates some extra. All my 3 s became 4 and i wanted a little more so i bumped them to 5. MM said that it will smoke at 7.
Ive even raised the lowest three load rows and went down in increments of 5. So 9000 rpm=60, 8500-55, 8000-50 and so forth until it was at stock levels. That way after driving hard i let it idle down and have some extra oil in there relubing the walls well and cooling down the side seals.
Now i have do nit have a cat to worry about.
Ive even raised the lowest three load rows and went down in increments of 5. So 9000 rpm=60, 8500-55, 8000-50 and so forth until it was at stock levels. That way after driving hard i let it idle down and have some extra oil in there relubing the walls well and cooling down the side seals.
Now i have do nit have a cat to worry about.
BUT I have mine inject a LOT more oil under boost . EG i hit 60 by 4000 under full boost conditions whereas a stock NA wouldn't hit 60 till 8500.
Last edited by Brettus; 03-06-2014 at 01:54 PM.
03-10-2014, 02:58 AM
#634
Hey guys, can anybody get a screen shot of what the fan temp part , rev limiter and speed limiter part looks like, I just got myself the Pro version (upgrade from personal, argh, my wallet), just wanna have an idea of what to expect before I start.
thx bud
thx bud
03-10-2014, 03:23 AM
#636
I'm pretty sure it does, but my problem is that, even I got my Personal edition like 6-7 months ago, I have yet to try it once on my car, cuz ... my 8 overseas doesn't work LoL !
but now I have another 8 that I'm planning to try, so yeah, just wanna know what to expect before I start using it the first time. LOL *don't hurt da n00b!*
but now I have another 8 that I'm planning to try, so yeah, just wanna know what to expect before I start using it the first time. LOL *don't hurt da n00b!*
03-10-2014, 03:30 AM
#637
I'm pretty sure it does, but my problem is that, even I got my Personal edition like 6-7 months ago, I have yet to try it once on my car, cuz ... my 8 overseas doesn't work LoL !
but now I have another 8 that I'm planning to try, so yeah, just wanna know what to expect before I start using it the first time. LOL *don't hurt da n00b!*
but now I have another 8 that I'm planning to try, so yeah, just wanna know what to expect before I start using it the first time. LOL *don't hurt da n00b!*
03-10-2014, 02:57 PM
#642
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You get completely locked out until you renew. But I'm pretty sure you can ask for your license to become standalone at which point you lose support and updates etc. Mine expired last year and I had to renew.
thewird
thewird
03-10-2014, 09:43 PM
#644
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The yearly support fee is $250 (for ME-Pro), when this runs out if you open the software it will prompt you with a dialogue box saying "your key has expired, please enter a new key" and also a cancel button, and a buy new key now button. When this happens, you cannot access the features of the program (I.E. opening saved ecu ROMs, logs etc).
You can request epifan to generate a permanent key, and continue to use the software without support from epifan, however, this can be purchased at a later date if required. you do not need to pay for a permanent key
You can request epifan to generate a permanent key, and continue to use the software without support from epifan, however, this can be purchased at a later date if required. you do not need to pay for a permanent key
Last edited by Driffill; 03-10-2014 at 09:50 PM.
03-11-2014, 12:05 PM
#647
Trying to wrap my head around what you mean about "nothing over 60" because even without the 30% adjustment the 50%-100% load @ 7000 - 9000 is above 60.
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03-11-2014, 02:12 PM
#648
Interesting. Here is what the OMP table looks like for the S2 w/ a Kane recommended 30% scaling. No smoking, no issues.
Trying to wrap my head around what you mean about "nothing over 60" because even without the 30% adjustment the 50%-100% load @ 7000 - 9000 is above 60.
Trying to wrap my head around what you mean about "nothing over 60" because even without the 30% adjustment the 50%-100% load @ 7000 - 9000 is above 60.
Here is the stock S1 map for reference
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