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Old 04-11-2014, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Brettus
Hmmmm .... I set that one to zero and it still started . Would you mind doing the same just to confirm you get the same please ?
Usually a crank map is only for the first few pulses, after which it reverts to normal fueling. The assumption is the OEM ecu would work the same way.

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Originally Posted by thewird
Usually a crank map is only for the first few pulses, after which it reverts to normal fueling. The assumption is the OEM ecu would work the same way.

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Interesting .............. have modified the map to suit the larger injectors i have in P1 and will see if any change over time .
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may be a stupid question but how comes i cant find the cranking map that rasputin is referring to?
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may be a stupid question but how comes i cant find the cranking map that rasputin is referring to?
You will have to request it from Epifan - it wasn't on the original software .
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Thanks Brettus
I assumes these extra maps may have been made available with software updates.

Sorry if I am still asking noob questions here but trying to get to grips with the basics before doing anything too serious, really need to speak with Gary (Flameshades from UK)
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Originally Posted by Arnie_O
Thanks Brettus
I assumes these extra maps may have been made available with software updates.
maybe .... don't know . It's hard to get anything done if he doesn't think there is a $ in it for him .
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Originally Posted by thewird
Usually a crank map is only for the first few pulses, after which it reverts to normal fueling. The assumption is the OEM ecu would work the same way.

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Not really. The PCM remains in cranking mode as long as a certain RPM threshold hasn't been achieved. It then move to crank to run mode which blends both strategy : crank fuel and run fuel.

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Originally Posted by blu3dragon
Interesting. Is it worth changing for a stock engine?

On my s2 I get a rare long crank that might be at a particular ECT. It never happens when the engine is cold, or hot, but somewhere in between. Something like if it is hot and I leave it for 5-15 min I have a chance of a long crank. Otherwise it starts quickly, cold, hot or even restarting after not fully warming up.
Based on my experience on my engine, it's pretty close to what you described, so, yes, I thing yours would benefit from a change in the crank fuel.
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It's explained in the Highlight and main Service manuals
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Originally Posted by Brettus
Hmmmm .... I set that one to zero and it still started . Would you mind doing the same just to confirm you get the same please ?
****, just read that...

It will be dificult to confirm. Or maybe on a cold start, as with the std calibration, warm / hot startings already are a (quasi) no go.

Still, that map DOES have an effect on the crank fuel. As a modifier of some sort of the base crank fuel. Which might explain why I had to QUADRUPLE the values at high ECTs to get an improvement.

However, if it is confirmed your engine starts without any fuel get it patented ASAP!

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Originally Posted by JimmyBlack
Bringing up the fan temp discussion again...

My car is a JDM with a New Zealand flash from January 2013.

Original fan settings:
Radiator Fan 1 Temp A: 97
Radiator Fan 1 Temp B: 97
Radiator Fan 2 - Vehicle Speed: 10
Radiator Fan 2 Temp: 101

nycgps, not sure what Temp B setting does, but I wouldn't be setting it to 0 unless you understand that it's not going to cause any temp issues. To play it safe I'd be leaving it the same as Temp A as per original flash.

Racing Beat have documented a recommendation to have Fan 1 Temp A at 87 and Fan 2 Temp at 97. Based on this I'll be using the following values:
Radiator Fan 1 Temp A: 87
Radiator Fan 1 Temp B: 87
Radiator Fan 2 - Vehicle Speed: 10
Radiator Fan 2 Temp: 97

My OBD2 coolant temp seems to plateau at 84 after warm up and during highway driving, indicating the thermostat cracks open here. Seems sensible to have fan 1 come on at least a few degrees above this so its not working while the thermostat is not fully open.
thanks, I just saw your post

and I did that already, temp seems to work fine, at least on S1.

still trying to confirm on S2.
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Just got an 'updates are available' message so clicked on it and updated my program .......... even though i didn't pay for support .
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The update was released a while ago

isn't that a good thing for u ? lol

oh have u try the S2 Fan on temp yet ?
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Originally Posted by nycgps
The update was released a while ago

isn't that a good thing for u ? lol

oh have u try the S2 Fan on temp yet ?
yes it's a good thing . I'm just confused over what this 'support' payment is supposed to be for .

S2 fan temps ..... what's so hard ?

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idle maps

is this correct?

7 idle tables.

Table A is for vehicle stopped clutch out
Table B is for vehicle stopped clutch in
Table C is for vehicle stopped clutch out A/C on
Table D is for vehicle stopped clutch in A/C on
Table E is for vehicle moving clutch in

what's Table F and G?
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Originally Posted by nycgps
The update was released a while ago

isn't that a good thing for u ? lol

oh have u try the S2 Fan on temp yet ?

If you plan to wire the motor speeds together as you previously discussed you will still be operating on the S1 fan logic and can still use the same temperatures as the S1. You might even be able to wire them to run both fans lows speed for for the S1 sequence Fan 1A, middle speed for Fan 1B, and high speed for Fan 2 (on the S1 Fan 1A, is one fan low speed, Fan 1B is the other fan also running low speed, and Fan 2 is them both running High Speed).

You need the logic for both to fully understand how to wire them in the right sequence on the S1. Already gave you the S2 logic, let me know if you
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
If you plan to wire the motor speeds together as you previously discussed you will still be operating on the S1 fan logic and can still use the same temperatures as the S1. You might even be able to wire them to run both fans lows speed for for the S1 sequence Fan 1A, middle speed for Fan 1B, and high speed for Fan 2 (on the S1 Fan 1A, is one fan low speed, Fan 1B is the other fan also running low speed, and Fan 2 is them both running High Speed).

You need the logic for both to fully understand how to wire them in the right sequence on the S1. Already gave you the S2 logic, let me know if you
nah, nothing to do with my other post/fan mod, see below

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yes it's a good thing . I'm just confused over what this 'support' payment is supposed to be for .

S2 fan temps ..... what's so hard ?
the reason I ask is because there are only 2 temp settings for S2 in ME, I changed it but for some reason, it doesn't seem to affect the fan on temp at all, cuz as far as I remember there should be 3 fan speed on S2. I asked epifan about it, he doesn't know for sure and ask me to send him a log, I will do that next week when I have access to that S2 again. but just wanna ask if u guys know anything about the Fan On Temp for S2

why don't I post this on S2 forum section? this post seems to have more replies than the S2 section

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Hi guys

I have one question, about "Radiator 2 Fan - Vehicle Speed" parameter in ME.

What is that for?, it has stock value of 10 km/h, so, does that mean Fan 2 (fast fan speed) don't work if vehicle speed is under 10 km/h????

Thanks
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Originally Posted by asmpbm
Hi guys

I have one question, about "Radiator 2 Fan - Vehicle Speed" parameter in ME.

What is that for?, it has stock value of 10 km/h, so, does that mean Fan 2 (fast fan speed) don't work if vehicle speed is under 10 km/h????

Thanks
Over 10 km/h
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Over 10 km/h

OK, Thanks.
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Ok. I mod the omp table

Does this looks alright to you guys? Not looking to smoke the car, just wanna increase it by a bit to increase the reliability of the engine
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What's the blip at 2k for?
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Looks ok to me .

Phil : my best guess for the blip at 2000 is that it is for a bit of extra lubrication at cold start-up .
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Looks ok to me .

Phil : my best guess for the blip at 2000 is that it is for a bit of extra lubrication at cold start-up .

it's ignorant on several levels, starting with placing it in the wrong load range
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has anyone even logged a start up?


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