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Old 01-23-2015, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Brettus
I'm sure that same scenario is played out all over the world . I just got told by a "genius" here that he is fitting a Microtec LT10 and upgrading his injectors , fitting fuel pump and regulator . He has an NA streetport and has been told he needs all that because of all the extra power he will have. What a joke !

Any luck with Epifan ?
totally forgot,

lemme send him a msg now
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I've had no luck contacting him. I'm still trying to get him to find the ignition-off fan turn on/off temp.
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Can you share how? Is this just via a config file for the accessport?
Yeah ..... that's all it is ...
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Brett, would that work as a logging tool without having mazdaedit?
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Originally Posted by logalinipoo
Brett, would that work as a logging tool without having mazdaedit?
Sure it would .... but ME displays the info better than anything else
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Should Mazda 'be able to program new keys from scratch if I have a Mazda edit flash ? They have issues. And don't know what the problem is. They say they can connect but aren't getting signal from the keys to reprogram the keys. They think it's the key switch sensor or wiring harness... I just need a for sure thing that they can do a reprogram of keys with a mazdaedit flash on the ecu
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Originally Posted by nlsolja123
Should Mazda 'be able to program new keys from scratch if I have a Mazda edit flash ? They have issues. And don't know what the problem is. They say they can connect but aren't getting signal from the keys to reprogram the keys. They think it's the key switch sensor or wiring harness... I just need a for sure thing that they can do a reprogram of keys with a mazdaedit flash on the ecu
I wouldn't have thought it would make any difference but can't say for sure . I recently had a new remote paired with my car and had no issue .....
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I asked epifan he was unsure as well. Figured someone may have had a reprogram after a mazdaedit flash. They can connect to the ecu but they can't reprogram the ecu to accept key ids. They say it doesn't respond to the keys. I hope I find out something asap.

Mazda is a bunch of clueless people with great machines. Wish all mechanic shops had the ecu programmers and tools.

Mazdaedit can't disable the immoblozer unless it's a mx5.... Maybe it would be a feature we could get him to add... Racing beat can disable the anti theft system in there flash
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ME does not, and is NOT capable of programming keys. it does not interferer with the immobilizer module. you can flash the ECU 10 million times and it still will not allow you to start the car.

Dealers (IDS) will NOT be able to flash ANY ME flashed ECU, simply because ME changes the security SEED/KEY and IDS will not be able to issue the erase command because it does not uses Mazda's default SEED/KEY. You need to ask epifan to give you a "return to stock flash", so it changes the security SEED/KEY back to stock Mazda's version. THEN dealer can flash it.

I have an idea of what ME's security SEED/KEY algorithm is, but I don't have the time to crack it. but someday I will try it, cuz it makes life much easier once my subscription runs out.

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Ordered my tactrix last night. I'm looking forward to joining you guys.
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Originally Posted by nycgps
ME does not, and is NOT capable of programming keys. it does not interferer with the immobilizer module. you can flash the ECU 10 million times and it still will not allow you to start the car.

Dealers (IDS) will NOT be able to flash ANY ME flashed ECU, simply because ME changes the security SEED/KEY and IDS will not be able to issue the erase command because it does not uses Mazda's default SEED/KEY. You need to ask epifan to give you a "return to stock flash", so it changes the security SEED/KEY back to stock Mazda's version. THEN dealer can flash it.

I have an idea of what ME's security SEED/KEY algorithm is, but I don't have the time to crack it. but someday I will try it, cuz it makes life much easier once my subscription runs out.
So could the dealer be able to program just all brand new keys with a ME flash.. they just can not put the latest M flash ? Or do you mean they can't even get keys to program unless on a stock file ?
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Originally Posted by nlsolja123
So could the dealer be able to program just all brand new keys with a ME flash.. they just can not put the latest M flash ? Or do you mean they can't even get keys to program unless on a stock file ?
The real question is why would you risk doing either? Taking your RX8 to a dealership with a 3rd party flash installed is an absolutely horrible idea under any circumstances.
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Only if you are concerned about warranty. Otherwise you may prefer that they NOT be able to flash the ECU. That would be the only concern.
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Originally Posted by nlsolja123
So could the dealer be able to program just all brand new keys with a ME flash.. they just can not put the latest M flash ? Or do you mean they can't even get keys to program unless on a stock file ?
IDS cannot disable Immobilizer

When they do a fresh flash with IDS, they enter the default file name into the system, which means it's just the same version that the car came with, after that they will need to perform the update to update it to the newest flash.

ME(Mazdaedit) does not access immobilizer

There are ways to defeat immobilizer, but that's not something you want to do, even no one really wants to steal Rx8.
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Is it true that the oiling, dwell, and other tables will automatically interpolate if I set the rev limit anywhere above the 9000RPM that the tables show? I don't think there's a way to add columns to tables, and I don't want to go past 9k and have the OMP shut itself.

This is a neat tool.
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Nope,

this is what I just got back from epifan

You can change axis values of a maps. It is not possible to change map dimensions
basically it means you can change the value of the maps to say, 9500 rpm, but you cannot just add another line to the map.


Edited : Ok I just checked Cobb AP Racer, cannot add another line, but I can play with the values, same with ME

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Originally Posted by Legot
Is it true that the oiling, dwell, and other tables will automatically interpolate if I set the rev limit anywhere above the 9000RPM that the tables show? I don't think there's a way to add columns to tables, and I don't want to go past 9k and have the OMP shut itself.

This is a neat tool.
You don't need to ADD columns ..... just squeeze them up .
EG : remove the 720rpm column , move all the other columns (including the numbers in them ) over one . Then add your 9500rpm column at the end.
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Yeah ..... that's all it is ...
not sure I follow how do you capture logs on SD card? What hardware/software do you need to do that?

I looked at tactrix but their openport is for Subaru and Mitsubishi with no mention of SD card slot?
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Originally Posted by Nadrealista
not sure I follow how do you capture logs on SD card? What hardware/software do you need to do that?

I looked at tactrix but their openport is for Subaru and Mitsubishi with no mention of SD card slot?
You just need the tactrix a mini SD card and a file to load on the card that prompts the logging . To read it you can use XL but it is much easier to interprt the info using Mazdaedit.
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Copy the attached file on to the MicroSD card to get the OpenPort to log. This is the last version I wrote from scratch (the one FlameShades uses ) which I think I posted a while back - the commonly available example causes log corruption when the actual AFR is read in a certain way.

As for knock detection, I vaguely remember either the detection or the resulting commanded retardation being available through one of the 0x22 or manufacturer specific PIDs - I'll have a look through my notes later and check I wasn't imagining things. I know the accuracy or sensitivity of the detector is in dispute but it's worth a shot, if it can be read that is.
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Originally Posted by Phil Bate
Copy the attached file on to the MicroSD card to get the OpenPort to log. This is the last version I wrote from scratch (the one FlameShades uses ) which I think I posted a while back - the commonly available example causes log corruption when the actual AFR is read in a certain way.

As for knock detection, I vaguely remember either the detection or the resulting commanded retardation being available through one of the 0x22 or manufacturer specific PIDs - I'll have a look through my notes later and check I wasn't imagining things. I know the accuracy or sensitivity of the detector is in dispute but it's worth a shot, if it can be read that is.
Thanks for posting it Phil .
I wasn't sure who made up the file so didn't want to post it up publically. Would be great if you can find the knock sensor parameter !
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No problem if there's any other parameter you would find useful let me know and I'll try and build it in. It can be picky when reading some PIDs in combination or even just in a certain order.

I thought I'd seen it somewhere - how about this in mode 0x22:

22 1746 knock retard amount ROM:0005DC88 subStruct <0x1746, 0x100, 0xFFFE0000, canKnockRetardAmount>

I'll drop it in tomorrow and see what I get. Could be fun testing it though :/
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Originally Posted by Phil Bate
No problem if there's any other parameter you would find useful let me know and I'll try and build it in. It can be picky when reading some PIDs in combination or even just in a certain order.

I thought I'd seen it somewhere - how about this in mode 0x22:

22 1746 knock retard amount ROM:0005DC88 subStruct <0x1746, 0x100, 0xFFFE0000, canKnockRetardAmount>

I'll drop it in tomorrow and see what I get. Could be fun testing it though :/
That sounds like the retardation parameter . Is there anything related to the sensor itself ?
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Originally Posted by Brettus
You just need the tactrix a mini SD card and a file to load on the card that prompts the logging . To read it you can use XL but it is much easier to interprt the info using Mazdaedit.
so I need to buy this open port reader





that accepts the mini sd card, which will prompt for logging with the logcfg.txt file on it.

how long can it log, how about the whole track session which is 20-30 min?

How big of the card I need. It wold be nice for someone to write how to log post...
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Originally Posted by Phil Bate
Copy the attached file on to the MicroSD card to get the OpenPort to log. This is the last version I wrote from scratch (the one FlameShades uses ) which I think I posted a while back - the commonly available example causes log corruption when the actual AFR is read in a certain way.

As for knock detection, I vaguely remember either the detection or the resulting commanded retardation being available through one of the 0x22 or manufacturer specific PIDs - I'll have a look through my notes later and check I wasn't imagining things. I know the accuracy or sensitivity of the detector is in dispute but it's worth a shot, if it can be read that is.
thanks for the file! do you have list of parameters that it captures? will it capture tpms pressures and temperatures?


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