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03-25-2008, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by zoom44

im sorry, i have spoken to a couple people who tell me bill is a great guy. but his comments and tactics over the last few days have not shown that. I hope he comes back after his driving adventure and adds more to this community than the negativity i have seen the last couple of days..because i believe he has allot to add

here's my problem with what has gone on-

a Cobb customer of Jeffs is having a problem with a tune. instead of contacting Jeff for a solution he is over at Bill's on a dyno. They see he is already lean and yet STILL put in a "stage 2 " LEANER map.

then Bill comes on here and very carefully insinuates Jeff is derelict in his support or incompetent in his tuning. with things like "this cobb stage 1 (im not sure but i think i was told this is MMs tune)" etc

hell i havent even read Jeffs directions but just from following the discussions here i can tell that you arent supposed to hop around from map to map like that. You start at one and let your trims build, if they are more than + a certain amount you go to a A map or if they are - over a certain amount you go to a B map etc.

thats not what Bill described as what was happening but yet he doesnt blame himself or the owner he tries to blame Jeff. It makes it look to me (and Jeff i can tell) as if Bill has a specific Agenda of either Discrediting Jeff or Cobb.

Thats the problem as i see it. I hope that ceases

I was one of the first people to question Bill and his motives. Though i had my doubts about him at first, after many phone conversations and email transmitalls i believe him to be very genuine. I have had to "forewarn" him on a couple occasions with regards to how sensitive this forum is and how he has to watch what he posts, not so much the content but how it is presented. People can be such lil touchy bitches here it isnt funny. And with Bill being a newcomer and coming in and throwing a bunch of threads around people were like, "who the the fu** is this guy?" Trust me i was one of them. I can tell u he is not out to discredit Cobb or Jeff. I agree that his choice of words with regards to the whole Jeff/Bill spat on the Cobb thread were ill advised. But i dont think it was THAT bad as to warrant a Admin coming in and immeidately slapping his knuckles with a ruler. What did he say that was against forum rules?? Disagree? Call him out? Are we not allowed to do that now? Had that been an ordinary Joe and Bill called him out, do you think there would be an Admin there immediately to censor Bill? Dont think so. I think fellas like Jeff AND Bill are great for the forum. If no one questioned the work of others on here (especially when they are backed by facts), what good would that do? Bill could have gone about it differently i agree. But i think the Admin went a lil overboard with the censorship. Jeff can fight his own battles.

...sry for getting off topic

Last edited by jones75254; 03-25-2008 at 09:55 PM.

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