Sin

Oh please I need one so soon....

Gord96BRG

And your word on the richened mixture:You still don't get it - Mazda never has said that the mixture was richened for preservation of the engine - not in any order, not at all. WE are talking about the mixture when the engine is running normally - the ECU reflash in port in July was solely for cat converter longevity. Nothing to do with "preservation of the engine". You show up and start claiming that the mixture was changed for the side seals, despite everyone else (including Paul Yaw, RotaryNews, and Mazda themselves) having documented that the mixture change was solely for the cat converters to be able to last for the new emissions law's required 120,000 miles. Who should we believe - Mazda, Paul Yaw, etc., or you? Hmmm, tough call.

The OTHER factor that has been extensively discussed is how the engine operates on a dyno, and the failsafe modes that Mazda has designed in courtesy of the ECU and DSC/ABS systems. You throw out Paul Yaw's name to cast doubt on Canzoomer, yet Paul was one of the first here to document this phenomenon and discuss the elaborate interactions between the ECU and the other systems. Guess you didn't quite read all the posts, eh?

You also throw out RB's lack of a magic bullet as an argument against Canzoomer's ECU mod - again, you must have somehow missed this on RB's web site:
Oh look, on that last line - looks suspiciously like a "magic bullet" to me.

So much for the latest in a line of rotary "know-it-alls" to show up late on the forum and tell us how they know more than everyone here about the RX-8. Nice way to blow your credibility in only 14 posts!

Regards,
Gordon

syntrix

Well put Gordon!!!!!

Jag

ROFL, Gordon you kill me sometimes. great post. :D

akrx8

canzoomer,take all the time you need.i can wait for results and a quailty product.

happy hoildays,akrx8.

Speed-ER doc

Looks like we got some "straight shooters" up thar in Canada. In Texas that means blunt, but honest and trustworthy. Y'alls posts are always entertaining and informative, keep it up. :p

hogcar

REREAD Mazda's official statement. I do agree with you about
one thing, that I only have a few posts but exactly how does
that qualify you as more Knowledgable than me? Heck, with all your posts that makes you the expert. How many times do I have to tell you I have read the post!!! I just dont pick and
choose the good parts or just the ones that I agree with to remember. I have Known about Racing beats work on the Rx8
since before this forum was even started or were being sold.
They are an excellent company. I don't think Racing Beat's
ecu mod is going to be "magic " but a reasonable improvement.

russgriz

First of all, I just want to say how much I enjoy the forum. I don't own an RX-8 yet but I am burning candles, keeping the house at 50 degrees, and eating dog food to save for one! All the posts I have read (I have been reading for days!) have been very informative, cleared up some rumors, and helped me to decide that the RX-8 is the car for me, mods or no mods (course, I'm gonna bike to work now so I can put my gas money away to buy the ecu mod). I have one suggestion tho. For people like hogcar (not picking on you man, it's just that your last post is a perfect example) who refer to a "hard reference" (my term) like the Mazda "official statement" (hogcar's term) concerning the reasons why Mazda changed the ecu, can you post a link to or a copy of the official statement so that we can read it for ourselves? Sometimes I feel like a lawyer, I like actual evidence that I can look at myself as opposed to hearsay, no offense. Thanks to everyone and keep up the good work!!!

Gord96BRG

You should - we are talking about two separate things here.

1) The port re-flash of the ECU which resulted in the loss of 9 rated HP. This was a result of the need to richen the mixture at high rpm full throttle operation to lengthen the life of the cat. NOTHING to do with "protecting" the engine, as YOU claim.

2) Mazda states that for dyno testing or similar high load operations, the ECU in conjunction with the DSC/ABS can go into a safe mode to protect the engine. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PORT REFLASH THAT RICHENED THE MIXTURE, AND WHICH CANZOOMER'S MOD ADDRESSES.

Got it now? Two completely separate issues - the port reflash had NOTHING to do with protecting the engine. You are wrong.

Quote:

I do agree with you about
one thing, that I only have a few posts but exactly how does
that qualify you as more Knowledgable than me? Heck, with all your posts that makes you the expert.

Here's the difference - I don't claim to be an expert, and I don't preach about how the RX-8 operates solely on prior experience with non-RX-8 rotaries. I also don't dismiss out of hand the valuable research being done by members of this forum. I'm not a rotary expert, but I'm an engineer fully capable of reading (actually reading, not just skimming and mis-interpreting as you have done here) technical material and sorting fact from BS.

Quote:

How many times do I have to tell you I have read the post!!!

I think we've just illustrated (again) that if you did, you didn't understand them.

Quote:

I have Known about Racing beats work on the Rx8
since before this forum was even started or were being sold.
They are an excellent company. I don't think Racing Beat's
ecu mod is going to be "magic " but a reasonable improvement.

That's funny, since you were the one who claimed that Racing Beat wasn't working on any RX-8 ECU mod like Canzoomer. You dismissed and mocked Canzoomer's plans as snake oil, because, as you implied, there's no way a hick like Canzoomer could develop something like this before Racing Beat. Further, "magic bullet" was YOUR term, used in a derogatory reference to Canzoomer's ECU mod. Nobody here is claiming magic, but Canzoomer has so far documented an improvement of about 25 rwhp from his mod.

Regards,
Gordon

Sea Ray

It would be interesting to see how many people are on the list for the stage 1. I was told 3 weeks for mine. And I assume that had someone got one yet we would cetainly have heard.

RX8 fever

Hi Canzoomer's.
Are you going to post pictures of the piggybag?.
Do you have in mind in the future to have a webpage with your products for the RX-8?.
BTW the 13.78 is great!!!!!
Thanks

RX-8 friend

Pics will be coming, and ditto web page. Understanding, of course, as we are swamped with getting this thing out to excited owners, we will not have much time to do a web page quickly.

Just for anyone who hasn't found the cost increase info. - it's on a different topic and forum area (and double posted yet) - going from $500 to $750 in January. So "early adopters" will be getting a pretty good deal. At that price we don't make much. Our whoops, your benefit.

Omicron

So are you actually SHIPPING the units now? How many have gone out? Thanks...

r0tor

iTrader: (1)

$750!!!???!!!??? ummm..... no

Omicron

For +25 WHP that's still a helluva deal.

Speed-ER doc

Matt's new Ferrari cost about $500/HP (but probably worth it).
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...threadid=16962


I don't know of any other way to add 20-25 HP as cheaply as even $750. I would certainly pay that much for the performance gains we are talking about.

Stock is all well and good, as we know.
But I want more....................................

(and I'm signed up for 5 bills) :D :D :D :D :D

Genom

I'm gonna fax in my order "soon". Just need to make sure I'm not gonna have to lend the little woman some money for some stupid gift she's thinking about for her dad. (the mans a doctor who has anything he could possibly want BTW, gave his sister a new car 2 weeks ago for her b-day).

But this week I hope.

swiftnet

I'm really interested - just checked the bank account type of interested ; )
Awesome that you guys (canzoomer) will allow for us Linux users! I have 8 pc's in the home and all run Linux or FreeBSD, anyway - how do I order?

RX-8 friend

None have been shipped yet (other than the test units). Cases arrived friday, but were done wrong. Should be fixed tomorrow. We installed the first "no wiring" prototype in Canzoomer's car today. I would expect shipping to start late this week, but Canzoomer is the one who knows. We are still waiting for a few parts, I think.

To order, send an e-mail to: maurice@harddata.com

brothervoodoo

I know CZ's has compiled a decent size mailing list for the 1st distribution. Everyone will be eyeing their inboxes...

Sin

Hell yeah brother, I 've been looking all day everyday!!!

MEGAREDS

Will the mod be safe and effective for those of us with AT engines?

Sin

I think its been mentioned that he wont be doing an ECU for the AT'S..right?

Gyro

Right.

No ECU mod for A/T at this time, and no immidiate plans to build one (as mentioned earlier). I guess the demand is not there to justify the initial bulid costs.