Shooter

CZ, i emailed you about placing an order nad havent heard from you yet. Let me know if you got my email.......

claude4

I apologize in adcnace if the question has been answered already but there was mention that the price for Mod1 will go up after the 1st of the year and I missed what that price w/b.

I am interested in getting this mod but cannot do so until the New Year.

Can anyone enlighten me/us?

Thanks,

Claude H.

HottRodder

post 1/1/04 = $750

DJ Freon

I'm in the same boat. I want to make sure I get it at the $500 price, and I haven't heard anything.

Canzoomer, if you're out there, we are eagerly awaiting a response. No rush, but I don't want to have to pay more because my order didn't get processed until the New Year. I think I speak for the few that are trying to order right at the deadline.

vix8

He might be overwhelmed with orders at this point, as I'm in the same situation...

gordonp

I am in the same situtation as well. Faxed an order, but no confirmation yet.

DJ Freon

If anyone has the fax order form could you post a link to it? I would like to do more than just email him if at all possible...

RX-8 friend

We're a bit busy right now. Redoing the floor in his living room, building units, etc. Your orders will be processed in the order received. As for shipping, I'm not sure as I work at home building the units up. There are others working at his shop as well. If they haven't gone out already there should be a bunch going out real soon.

rx8daniel

as far as I know, I've been on the 'list' for a unit since around 11/13. I notice some say they've faxed, or ordered - anyone want to share a fax# or order form if they have one?

Genom

I too thought I was on the list but didnt get an email when Is aw others getting it. I emailed maurice and he sent me a pdf for placing the order. If ya give me an email I'll throw it your way, or you can email maurice as well.

DALE A BREDE

Hi Canzoomer, new member in Australia. I have been reading the Aussie site and see that I can order your stage 1. Can you tell me how i can place the order with you.

Regards
Dale.

Digisan

I heard the $500 cut-off is on the 15th of this month is that true? I know canz' is busy working on his office but I would be disappointed if I lost out on the $500 deal because he didn't have access to the web.

Hymee

iTrader: (1)

I thought the $500 cut off was EOY 2003 anyway?

Genom

Maurice posted multiple times that end of 2003 was the last chance for the 500 buck price. Anything past new years is 750.

U. N. O.

something i don't think anyone has asked yet to this wonderful mode... and that is still a big issue for many.. what about gas milage? it is bad enough at 18mpg stock. By having this mode and not being able to just 'switch' to normal settings, a lot of people will suffer in their mpg averages (being lower) in a "permanent " way . I mean it will really stinck for daily drivers .

Please CZ when ever you have a chance to address this issue will be appreciated.


Also if this mode worsens the mpg average, much worse will be when ever someone wants to combine it with a turbo or SC . i mean will it be really worth it to drop to who knows 11-13 mpg for a perfomance lower than other cars (IE S2000, G35. evo, sti, Z4, 3 series,TT cuatro, etc)? and after all that money?
Please CZ i am not trash talking your product or anything like that, i mean u r the first doing this and releasing it, is wonderful and i admire you for doing this since it is as a hobby in ur spare time but u and the rest know me, always playing the devils advocate in things, nothing personal just as curiosity and infornation sake is that i am asking this.

BRx8

i was hoping it'd be the same MPG or even better since the original spec was supposed to be 247hp @ 19MPG and the hack job Mazda did reprogramming the ECU basically decreased both at the same time...please don't tell me i'll be getting worse mileage than before

MPG > HP

I agree with the previous posts. I'd be more than happy to pay $750 for an ECU mod that "restored" my RX-8 to 250HP and 18-24 MPG. I wrote CZ a few months back on this, but never got a reply. Seems like the main motivation is raw HP and MPG be damned. Can't see how anyone can ignore the importance of "good" MPG numbers. After all, I'm sure most of us early buyers were counting on the "original" mid-2003 performance numbers and can't quite get over wondering what this car would be like in "performance" and not "EPA" trim. If it means buying a new cat every few years what the heck, if that's what it takes, then so be it!

Genom

Maurice also mentioned that under 4000RPM you wont see any difference in power/mileage. However above that you will see leaner mixes so better mileage (very little though) that will most likely be negated by all the zoom zooming around your gonna be doing :D

brothervoodoo

This piggyback ECU leans the fuel at something beyond 5000rpm, so you may experience benefits on gas mileage at higher RPM than before. But if you hotdog it more than you did before, I wouldn't expect any significant gains. Maurice mentioned many times that at lower RPM's the car is already lean enough and didn't expect any mileage gains. Really, no one is going to know until a bunch of people buy the unit and start reporting results....

U. N. O.

u seem to not get the essence of the question..

yeah there might not be much difference if u keep the car at 4000 or under but been realistic, no one keeps the revs like that for a long time, not even for 1/2 tank unless done on pourpose to proof something, but normal driving, we all know that the car is driven to atleast 5.500 b4 shifting. Running the car leaner will make consumption a bit less since there is no more excess gas going in but at the same time it make the car rev faster as our notion of movement will make our press on that gas pedal further down. He mention that there will be a change in the air/fuel mix, that might make for more consumption. if there is the same fuel amount coming in and more air (learner) will produce more power yet same/ more consumption..

Lock & Load

U.N.O.

Maurice also mentioned a possible saving in fuel because there would not be a need to change gears down from 6th to 4th which can be a hard gear to change into in order to get a boost in power to overtake.etc

With the stage 1 kit installed a change from 6th to 5th which is a lot easier to change into would be enough to give you equivelant if not greater power than a 6th to 4th gear change.

As far as people who are interested in extra HP / KW gains most id say dont give a rats *** as to the yearly difference in fuel comsumtion cost , which may differ by $1000 -$1500 dollars.per annum, over normal fuel costs.

I am currently spending average $55 Australian dollars per week petrol for my RX8 if that figure increased to an extra $28 (being over 50%) per /week (which i doubt very much ) it would still be reasonable .

Dont expect to buy a sports orrientated high reving performance car and not have to use any fuel to run it especially if you want more power.

If you or others cant afford the running costs of the rx8 clearly you have overspent beyond your means and should not have bought the RX8.

Giving or taking out your Fustrations on MAURICE wont help anyone .

"DONT WORRY BE HAPPY"

RX-8 friend

I would expect slightly better fuel economy. As I've said elsewhere, the prototypes were installed in cars just as winter started here (October), so comments on fuel use would be useless. I would expect the differences to be perhaps 5-10%, which would be lost in environmental variables if you were trying to compare.

russgriz

I don't own an RX-8 yet but I have read this entire thread in anticipation of when I get one, and I seem to recall that the latest version of cz's mod would allow switching between his chip and the stock chip by pressing a switch. I also need to echo the others who point out the obvious...this is a performance car! I own a 97 saturn SC and a 2003 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP and if I drive my Saturn like a grandma I get 24 mpg but when I hot-rod for a whole tank I can get as little as 16 mpg. If I could add 20 HP to my Saturn just by changing a chip I just have to ask myself, 24 mpg or 16 mpg? Chip or no chip? Do I want a sports car or not? If I wanna hot-rod now, I'll drive the GTP, enjoy the supercharger in it and not bitch about the low mpg later. No brainer.

Omicron

While this mod is switchable, it will not be cockpit switchable. You'll have to open the ECU cover to get to it, and most likely, disconnect the battery before you switch it. Then after you've switched and reconnected the battery, you'll have to drive the car for a bit for the ECU to "relearn" what it's parameters are supposed to be.

russgriz

Thanks for the clarification Omicron.