Tuning Webinar with Kane
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Would this be worthwhile for a complete noob? Because I'm super interested as well, but I'm afraid it would be completely over my head. If yes, jot me down too.
*edit - just noticed this was asked already. Pending Kane's response I am in.
*edit - just noticed this was asked already. Pending Kane's response I am in.
Last edited by bwilk; 03-28-2013 at 03:05 PM. Reason: *just noticed this was asked already
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Ok folks, I will try to give a good overall answer to the newb question and also add what would be ideal to have done prior to the class.
Newb-wise, you don't need to have much knowledge up front, a good knowledge of basic physics and software use (like Excel, copy / paste, data manipulation). If you have no idea what a spreadsheet is, or a data set, you might struggle. Though if you are a reasonably quick learner you'll catch on. I would say if you have done car mods before at the air intake level or higher, and you understand energy and power in concept, you will be fine. Those that took the Texas class feel free to chime in, I think it started pretty basic....
Prior to the course, you need Cobb Accesstuner Race (if that is what you are using) or any other EMS installed. You need to learn how it logs, and how to get those logs onto your computer to view them in a spreadsheet program (Open Office is free if you don't have one yet).
If you are not using the Cobb, email me your EMS at kane@ppo2performance.com, so I can have some screen shots or even the software on my screen. I am already tracking one Hydra EMS user.
Clean the MAF if it has been a while.
Check your mechanicals, like ignition, vacuum hoses etc to ensure the car is running mechanically sound.
If you want some reading material, I recommend
I will provide power points and other handouts electronically for those remote, but that book is really pretty good for most of the fundamentals.
Any questions you have, write them down now, or as soon as they come up so you can be sure they get answered. There is a HUGE amount to cover, so if you think you'll remember something, you probably won't.
That's about it folks, we'll start slow, but it picks up fast, so don't allow yourself to get behind on the concepts, once we are into actual tuning, then you'll get the hang of it pretty quickly.
We can do 15 remotes, IF we have no more than 2-3 in persons. So when the rubber meets the road on payment, kma / Kyle can make the call on how many remotes we have. But if we have 6 local, then no way can we do more than 12, maybe I'll schedule an online one later, but no promises...I'm about 3 months behind on my other projects.
Final Note: Sunday I have a 7 hour drive home, so at the end of the class get my phone number, and if your tuning and get stuck - I will have nothing but time to entertain you Sunday
Newb-wise, you don't need to have much knowledge up front, a good knowledge of basic physics and software use (like Excel, copy / paste, data manipulation). If you have no idea what a spreadsheet is, or a data set, you might struggle. Though if you are a reasonably quick learner you'll catch on. I would say if you have done car mods before at the air intake level or higher, and you understand energy and power in concept, you will be fine. Those that took the Texas class feel free to chime in, I think it started pretty basic....
Prior to the course, you need Cobb Accesstuner Race (if that is what you are using) or any other EMS installed. You need to learn how it logs, and how to get those logs onto your computer to view them in a spreadsheet program (Open Office is free if you don't have one yet).
If you are not using the Cobb, email me your EMS at kane@ppo2performance.com, so I can have some screen shots or even the software on my screen. I am already tracking one Hydra EMS user.
Clean the MAF if it has been a while.
Check your mechanicals, like ignition, vacuum hoses etc to ensure the car is running mechanically sound.
If you want some reading material, I recommend
Amazon.com: How to Tune and Modify Engine Management Systems (Motorbooks Workshop) (9780760315828): Jeff Hartman: Books
I will provide power points and other handouts electronically for those remote, but that book is really pretty good for most of the fundamentals.
Any questions you have, write them down now, or as soon as they come up so you can be sure they get answered. There is a HUGE amount to cover, so if you think you'll remember something, you probably won't.
That's about it folks, we'll start slow, but it picks up fast, so don't allow yourself to get behind on the concepts, once we are into actual tuning, then you'll get the hang of it pretty quickly.
We can do 15 remotes, IF we have no more than 2-3 in persons. So when the rubber meets the road on payment, kma / Kyle can make the call on how many remotes we have. But if we have 6 local, then no way can we do more than 12, maybe I'll schedule an online one later, but no promises...I'm about 3 months behind on my other projects.
Final Note: Sunday I have a 7 hour drive home, so at the end of the class get my phone number, and if your tuning and get stuck - I will have nothing but time to entertain you Sunday
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Kane,
I have to put it out there, guys like yourself help keep the car scene alive. every now and then yu run i to some one that doesnt mind sharing their knowledge and experience and that is what drives the new ad unexperience guys to learn and try new things.
I have to put it out there, guys like yourself help keep the car scene alive. every now and then yu run i to some one that doesnt mind sharing their knowledge and experience and that is what drives the new ad unexperience guys to learn and try new things.
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Kane,
I have to put it out there, guys like yourself help keep the car scene alive. every now and then yu run i to some one that is so lazy, they would rather share their knowledge and experience than tune a ton of cars and that is what drives the new ad unexperience guys to learn and try new things.
I have to put it out there, guys like yourself help keep the car scene alive. every now and then yu run i to some one that is so lazy, they would rather share their knowledge and experience than tune a ton of cars and that is what drives the new ad unexperience guys to learn and try new things.
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I'm the Hydra guy (no, it's not for an RX-8), and mostly joining for the theory. Data and spreadsheets is what I do for a living, so software differences won't hinder me substantially, especially when it comes to learning the theory behind tuning.
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Likewise ... I'm going in with my MAP / VE based adaptronic and mazdaedit. The mep tables map pretty much one to one to ATR and I imagine timing is the same across all, where I'm most interested.