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Old 09-26-2004 | 02:30 AM
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At it again, AC Condensor Prototypes and a little surprise

Well, in a few minutes I had to spare tonight, I went and fitted a grille for the AC Condensor opening.

I had already done this before and I had a grille that has the same size openings as the Oil Cooler Grilles that I designed. So, the first pic is with it re-installed.

The second pic is of some thicker aluminum grille with slightly larger diamond shaped openings. They are just slightly smaller than the stock openings.

The third pic is what I didn't show in the two pics before. :D

These are flash pics at night and do not look too good but I will be taking day time pics tomorrow with it on the car instead of on a work area table.

Flame away! Also, I will paint the center grille black for my car. All of these will be able to be ordered in black or bright aluminum.
Attached Thumbnails At it again, AC Condensor Prototypes and a little surprise-ac-condensor-grille-small.jpg   At it again, AC Condensor Prototypes and a little surprise-ac-condensor-grille-large.jpg   At it again, AC Condensor Prototypes and a little surprise-front-grille-large-ac-condensor-grille.jpg  
Old 09-26-2004 | 05:04 AM
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i want one of them, but i want them to be my oil cooler grill, can it be possible?? i like the pattern. pm me please if you do
Old 09-26-2004 | 07:09 AM
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the first one looks like crap..but the second one isn't that bad
Old 09-26-2004 | 11:04 AM
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I like the A/C condenser grille, as long as it was in flat black.
Old 09-26-2004 | 11:22 AM
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2nd pic looks great.
Old 09-26-2004 | 11:24 AM
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I have the stock bumper, will these work with it? It seems from your photo, your have the front lip spoiler. Is this the same material as the oil cooler screens? If so, I'm buying!
Old 09-26-2004 | 03:12 PM
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I know it is difficult to plan for all the different variations of cars around here, but please make sure these will work on non-appearance package cars. As of right now (unless something has changed), I can't get your oil cooler grills because I don't have fog lights... Well, I guess I could, but it would look funny :P
Old 09-26-2004 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by robertdot
I know it is difficult to plan for all the different variations of cars around here, but please make sure these will work on non-appearance package cars. As of right now (unless something has changed), I can't get your oil cooler grills because I don't have fog lights... Well, I guess I could, but it would look funny :P
These can be mounted on both the stock and the aero package front lip. They will need to be specified stock or aero when ordering when they are produced as the cut of the grille and the mounting of them is slightly different. The aero is actually about 3/4" wider on both sides. Otherwise they are pretty much the same. I have both the aero and stock parts. I only put these on the aero because the first one I cut a few months ago, it was installed on the aero. I rough cut the new material and when I went to fit it to the stock front, I was a bit short. That was my fault as I hadn't remembered there was a bit of a difference. So, that is not a problem as I can easily adjust the cut to a bit wider.

The main difference for a larger diamond pattern is that I felt the smaller diamond pattern was a bit too much when it spanned across such a wide opening. A second reason is the larger diamond pattern is thicker and more rigid. However, it is not a structural issue, more of an appearance. They will be offered in both small and large diamond patterns.

I will have pics up very soon as I need to take a break from working on strakes and other stuff.

As for the fog light issue, I am in planning of making a non fog light version. All I have to do is make a new frame and two additional mounting brackets, then mold it all and then it will be ready. Wait about a month for these to appear.

I am also working on a single strake version similar to the X-Men per request.
Old 09-26-2004 | 05:21 PM
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great work ~ !!!!
Old 09-26-2004 | 06:41 PM
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Now for the day time pics.

This first one is of the smaller diamond that is the same size as the OC Grilles.

The second pic is of the larger diamond that is slightly smaller than the Front Center Grille.

Next is a comparison of the OEM Center Grille diamond pattern and the slightly smaller large diamond aluminum pattern.

The next two are the Large and Small diamond patterns again.
Attached Thumbnails At it again, AC Condensor Prototypes and a little surprise-ac-grille-small-diamonds.jpg   At it again, AC Condensor Prototypes and a little surprise-ac-condensor-grille-large-side.jpg   At it again, AC Condensor Prototypes and a little surprise-aluminum-vs-plastic-front-grille-diamond-size.jpg   At it again, AC Condensor Prototypes and a little surprise-ac-grille-small-diamonds-2.jpg   At it again, AC Condensor Prototypes and a little surprise-front-grille-large-ac-condensor-grille.jpg  


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Old 09-26-2004 | 06:55 PM
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If you get a chance with the bumper off, how about a pic from the inside illustrating how they are attached?
Old 09-27-2004 | 01:06 AM
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These should be available within a couple weeks at the most. I am obtaining the supplies soon. The installation will require removing the front bumper, as I am sure everyone is used to me saying that by now.
Originally Posted by Hammer
If you get a chance with the bumper off, how about a pic from the inside illustrating how they are attached?
The mounting hardware will consist of two stainless steel screws with washers, two clip mounting nuts, two fender bolts and the grille.

I will describe how they are mounted as I do not have pics of this yet because I like to finish the actual product before sending it our or posting pics. There are two screw stanchions at the top of the opening on both sides. There is where the top two screws and washers will affix it to the top sides. The two center plastic retainer clips will be replaced with the fender bolt and clip mounting nuts and the fender bolt will pass through the grille, stock or aero air dam and into the front center OEM grill mounting holes. These will be the top mounts for the center. The bottom will be pre cut in segments that will be marked as to where to bend the grill forward, depending on which side of the grille will be used, black or bright aluminum. On the aero pcakage air dam, this part will slip between the aero dam and it's black chasis under mount. When the screws that hold this together are tightened, it will be clamped together at those six points. On the stock aero dam, there will be 4 extra clip mounting screws and fender bolts necessitating the drilling of 4 small holes to utilize the mounting of the grille to the bottom of the air dam. Pics will be provided.

Yes, you could do this your self and it would take cutting tools, finishing supplies, hardware, time and effort. I am buying this in bulk and can get a better price than buying just one piece. If you do this yourself, you will have extra material that will be waisted and just sitting around.

The grilles will be coated on one side with a black synthetic rubber compound that is more resistant to chipping, chemical road salts, and is flexible to be able to bend with the screen while installing. The other side will be bright aluminum for those who wish to show a little brightness.

Both the small diamond pattern and the large diamond pattern will be offered. They will also fit the stock air dam as well as the aero package air dam as pictured. When they are available, both versions will be pictured. The stock dam opening is about 3/4" wider on both sides but these will be cut to allow for that.
Old 09-27-2004 | 04:25 PM
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Hey D MENAC.have you placed w new full open grill???Or your grill is like the stock one and doesn't let air get insdide the machine???I saw your picture and i though that you have an open front grill so more air runs in the machine????Correct me if i am wrong...

Cgrx I just loved your Karate Kid.... :D :D :D

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Old 09-28-2004 | 01:25 PM
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That was a test fit for an open aluminum grille that I am planning. I have since painted it coated it with black synthetic rubber and it is presently out of my car.

What I thought I would do with this is to paint the white styrofoam energy absorption piece black (already done), modify the upper bumper cover under support (black piece that sits above the styrofoam) to allow air to flow through it, and paint the rebar bumper black (already done). After modifying the upper bumper under support to allow air flow, I am going to modify the black plastic piece, that some call the radiator cover, that sits right behind the back top edge of the bumper cover, the part that is held in place by the nylon fasteners. I think that cutting vent slots in it would work very well. This will allow more air to enter the engine compartment from the top front.

In addition, I want to turn the air intake that goes into the filter box forward so as to scoop air into it more efficiently. This will not force air into the intake but direct it's flow there more efficiently. I have a K&N CAI that will greatly benefit by this as the stock filter box is no longer there and the heat shield that came with it isn't air tight even though I did devise a cover and sides for it. This scooped air will force more air into the box and keep the engine compartment air from being sucked in by the CAI as the air scooped in will be a positive air pressure flowinng into the box from this intake scoop and tube. I plan on remounting the existing OEM tube and plastic opening or devising a better designed scoop that attaches to the under bumper cover support. Haven't gotten to that point yet.

My main goal there is to provide ventilation for cooling this hot little engine.

This will also involve redesigning the side air vents. They need to be turned towards the front and as air passes over the opening, this should cause a venturi effect that will more efficiently pull air out the vent opening than it currently does.

Most of this is off topic and will be covered in another thread when I have finished that project in a week or two.
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