JDM Clear Corners and Tickets
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Those of you that have Clears on, I know that is a nice look, but have you received any fixit tickets because of them. I know that it is illegal, because a Cop where I work showed me the vehicle code and interpreted exactly what it means.
No Clear Corners in CA.
I am sure that other states have this same type of law.
I'm getting the Revi and heard that when I take the nose off it makes this mod (clear corners) a lot simpler.
Bill
No Clear Corners in CA.
I am sure that other states have this same type of law.
I'm getting the Revi and heard that when I take the nose off it makes this mod (clear corners) a lot simpler.
Bill
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so put orange bulbs in them and they will look somewhat orange
I thought that if the color of the light in them was orange than you would be ok. Are cops in CA that pathetic that you would get a ticked for something as stupid as clear corners?
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If I am not mistaken, it has to be an amber marker, not just an amber bulb in a clear marker.
And you don't normally get fixit tickets just because, but because you were speeding, running red lights, stop signs, demonstration of performance, or maybe tinted windows (which are nice here, but can get you a fixit ticket).
When he pulls you over for the other infractions, like any lover of modern art he wants to check out all of the nice mods you spent a gazillion dollars on. :D
Bill
And you don't normally get fixit tickets just because, but because you were speeding, running red lights, stop signs, demonstration of performance, or maybe tinted windows (which are nice here, but can get you a fixit ticket).
When he pulls you over for the other infractions, like any lover of modern art he wants to check out all of the nice mods you spent a gazillion dollars on. :D
Bill
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there are some cars that have clear corners from the factory here in the states and have amber bulbs. hell, now look at the lexus 330 truck - the tailights are clear with red LED bulbs in them.
i would seriously doubt a cop would pull you over for that specifically.
i would seriously doubt a cop would pull you over for that specifically.
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well as he said you won't get pulled over for them, but FWIW I think the law will have to change about the clear corners, cause manufacturers are starting to put them on the stock cars as mugatu stated, either that or the US will suffer more because the damn hippie lawmakers in CA can not stand to let the younger gen's have their fun!
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That's not always true. There are states where the side markers must REFLECT amber. That's not possible with clear lenses.
Those cars that come with clear corners do have at least some part of the corner lens (or a separate reflector) as amber. Otherwise they could not be marketed everywhere in the USA.
Those cars that come with clear corners do have at least some part of the corner lens (or a separate reflector) as amber. Otherwise they could not be marketed everywhere in the USA.
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This is a section of the Ca Veh Code
25106. (a) Any motor vehicle may be equipped with lighted white or amber cowl or fender lamps on the front. Any vehicle may be equipped with not more than one amber side lamp on each side near the front, nor more than one red side lamp on each side near the rear. The light source of each such lamp shall not exceed four standard candlepower.
25106. (a) Any motor vehicle may be equipped with lighted white or amber cowl or fender lamps on the front. Any vehicle may be equipped with not more than one amber side lamp on each side near the front, nor more than one red side lamp on each side near the rear. The light source of each such lamp shall not exceed four standard candlepower.
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Had my clear corners since september of last year, nothing happen to me yet. I don't really think cops care that much, but it also depends on what part of CA you live in. Monterey park where I live has way to manny fixed up cars, so I don't think the cops really care out here. Clear corners are really easy to take on and off anyway, so it wouldent bother me.
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Originally Posted by TheDosDog
This is a section of the Ca Veh Code
25106. (a) Any motor vehicle may be equipped with lighted white or amber cowl or fender lamps on the front. Any vehicle may be equipped with not more than one amber side lamp on each side near the front, nor more than one red side lamp on each side near the rear. The light source of each such lamp shall not exceed four standard candlepower.
25106. (a) Any motor vehicle may be equipped with lighted white or amber cowl or fender lamps on the front. Any vehicle may be equipped with not more than one amber side lamp on each side near the front, nor more than one red side lamp on each side near the rear. The light source of each such lamp shall not exceed four standard candlepower.
Vehicle Code
Clearance and Side-Marker Lamps
25100. (a) Except as provided in subdivisions (b) and (d), every vehicle 80 inches or more in overall width shall be equipped during darkness as follows:
(1) At least one amber clearance lamp on each side mounted on a forward-facing portion of the vehicle and visible from the front and at least one red clearance lamp at each side mounted on a rearward-facing portion of the vehicle and visible from the rear.
Hey Dosdog,
You are talking about the fender lamps. These are on the sides of the car normally behind the front wheel well and before the doors. If I can find a picture I'll post it.
Also, if you list the full site of the code 25106. it states:
(b) Lamps meeting requirements established by the department for side-marker or combination clearance and side-marker lamps may be installed on the sides of vehicles at any location, but any lamp installed within 24 inches of the rear of the vehicle shall be red, and any lamp installed at any other location shall be amber.
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Originally Posted by tiggerlee
IMO I think the key word is "lamp" meaning bulb not actual reflector color. As long as the bulb is amber I would think it's legal.
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Originally Posted by maxrx8
Vehicle Code
Clearance and Side-Marker Lamps
25100. (a) Except as provided in subdivisions (b) and (d), every vehicle 80 inches or more in overall width shall be equipped during darkness as follows:
(1) At least one amber clearance lamp on each side mounted on a forward-facing portion of the vehicle and visible from the front and at least one red clearance lamp at each side mounted on a rearward-facing portion of the vehicle and visible from the rear.
Hey Dosdog,
You are talking about the fender lamps. These are on the sides of the car normally behind the front wheel well and before the doors. If I can find a picture I'll post it.
Also, if you list the full site of the code 25106. it states:
(b) Lamps meeting requirements established by the department for side-marker or combination clearance and side-marker lamps may be installed on the sides of vehicles at any location, but any lamp installed within 24 inches of the rear of the vehicle shall be red, and any lamp installed at any other location shall be amber.
Clearance and Side-Marker Lamps
25100. (a) Except as provided in subdivisions (b) and (d), every vehicle 80 inches or more in overall width shall be equipped during darkness as follows:
(1) At least one amber clearance lamp on each side mounted on a forward-facing portion of the vehicle and visible from the front and at least one red clearance lamp at each side mounted on a rearward-facing portion of the vehicle and visible from the rear.
Hey Dosdog,
You are talking about the fender lamps. These are on the sides of the car normally behind the front wheel well and before the doors. If I can find a picture I'll post it.
Also, if you list the full site of the code 25106. it states:
(b) Lamps meeting requirements established by the department for side-marker or combination clearance and side-marker lamps may be installed on the sides of vehicles at any location, but any lamp installed within 24 inches of the rear of the vehicle shall be red, and any lamp installed at any other location shall be amber.
It's true that technically clear markers are illegal. However, there are references in the CA code to white signal lenses and white fender lights that, if just slightly misinterpreted
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Clear Side Markers ARE LEGAL in CA!
I think someone posted a link to this site before, but I couldn't find the thread.
http://www.chp.ca.gov/html/streetlegal.html
The comment about the the side markers is this:
"Illegal color of side marker lights. If present, must be yellow in the front and red in the rear (25106, 24003 VC). "
It says "side marker lights". It doesn't say the reflector has to be yellow/red. Also, it says "if present" which means it's not a requirement. If it's not a requirement, then I'm guessing a reflector is not necessary. If there is no reflector or light, wouldn't that be the same as a clear lense? I think the point is, if it's night time, and a light is on, that light better be yellow in the front and red in the back. The reflector color is irrelevant.
Also, if you look any of the new BMW's sold in California, they have clear side markers w/ amber bulbs.
I'm pretty sure BMW wouldn't sell a car that had illegal mods.
There's probably other car companies selling cars with clear side markers also, but BMW was the only one I could think of right now.
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http://www.chp.ca.gov/html/streetlegal.html
The comment about the the side markers is this:
"Illegal color of side marker lights. If present, must be yellow in the front and red in the rear (25106, 24003 VC). "
It says "side marker lights". It doesn't say the reflector has to be yellow/red. Also, it says "if present" which means it's not a requirement. If it's not a requirement, then I'm guessing a reflector is not necessary. If there is no reflector or light, wouldn't that be the same as a clear lense? I think the point is, if it's night time, and a light is on, that light better be yellow in the front and red in the back. The reflector color is irrelevant.
Also, if you look any of the new BMW's sold in California, they have clear side markers w/ amber bulbs.
I'm pretty sure BMW wouldn't sell a car that had illegal mods.
There's probably other car companies selling cars with clear side markers also, but BMW was the only one I could think of right now.
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Or you could take the easy way out..
Get amber bulbs either normal or Stealth-amber.. and should a cop pull ya over.. quickly turn on your parking lights.. boom.. Amber looking corners![Wink](https://www.rx8club.com/images/smilies/wink.gif)
Doubt he'd even notice.
Get amber bulbs either normal or Stealth-amber.. and should a cop pull ya over.. quickly turn on your parking lights.. boom.. Amber looking corners
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Doubt he'd even notice.
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Originally Posted by djgiron
well as he said you won't get pulled over for them, but FWIW I think the law will have to change about the clear corners, cause manufacturers are starting to put them on the stock cars as mugatu stated, either that or the US will suffer more because the damn hippie lawmakers in CA can not stand to let the younger gen's have their fun!
Not as dangerous as replacing the brake lights with white lenses/reflectors but I think you get the idea.
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Most of the regulations regarding "clear corners" have to do with the light that is emitted from the marker, not the "lens" itself. The "lens" can be clear as long as the light being emitted complies with the regulations.
For anyone living in Ohio that doesn't know the regulations there, here they are:
Fortunately, people in Ohio can use white lights in addition to amber. I know a lot of states only allow amber.
For anyone living in Ohio that doesn't know the regulations there, here they are:
§ 4513.13. Cowl, fender, and back-up lights.
(A) Any motor vehicle may be equipped with side cowl or fender lights which shall emit a white or amber light without glare.
Any motor vehicle may be equipped with lights on each side thereof which shall emit a white or amber light without glare.
Any motor vehicle may equipped with back-up lights, either separately or in combination with another light. No back-up lights shall be continuously lighted when the motor vehicle is in forward motion.
(A) Any motor vehicle may be equipped with side cowl or fender lights which shall emit a white or amber light without glare.
Any motor vehicle may be equipped with lights on each side thereof which shall emit a white or amber light without glare.
Any motor vehicle may equipped with back-up lights, either separately or in combination with another light. No back-up lights shall be continuously lighted when the motor vehicle is in forward motion.
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sorry to change the topic on what makes the clear corners legal or not..... but anyone know where i can find quality clear corners for my rx8?
(oh....and on a personal note: police are annoying as crap and will always find something to give you a ticket for...... so i dont mind, im just going to keep my clear corners with the white bulb or get a blue one just to give it some flash) ((amber is garbage))
(oh....and on a personal note: police are annoying as crap and will always find something to give you a ticket for...... so i dont mind, im just going to keep my clear corners with the white bulb or get a blue one just to give it some flash) ((amber is garbage))
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Originally Posted by Fl4sh
sorry to change the topic on what makes the clear corners legal or not..... but anyone know where i can find quality clear corners for my rx8?
I got the mine from them. Thew will help you out.