RotorGeek

Ohhhh I know the engine. My friend test drove the SVT. He loves Stangs. I just think the 8 is more of a complete package, But I am not looking at Pure Speed which the SVT has plenty of.

My 2cent

rx8daniel

Hate to distract any by going back to the thread subject, but I just saw something interesting. On the Europe forum there is a thread about '*****' - they've posted a pic of the stereo and air controls from I think the US website Mazda gallery, and another from the Geneva show. About 4 labeling differences are seen. Scan for the stereo on the Geneva version has 3 buttons, fan speed is labeled 1 - 4 on the US, etc. One smal diff : both have the common "CD" label on the right side of the stereo face. BUT the Geneva unit has a "6CD" label on the left side. Both have the "load" button - so the real indicator of what is inside seems to be that left hand small 6CD label. Stay tuned for more - someday soon I think we'll know what we get here!

erik

Ok, I might get flamed for this, but I CANNOT believe people would cancel an order over not being able to put 5 more CDs in the dash. Seriously, this car is a SPORTS car with four seats.

Please, go get a VOLVO and don't pretend to be a sports car enthusiast. I'm not saying the C70 isn't nice, but stop whining and do it already. It might fit your status need a little more also.

Man, the Cobra is just mean, but the 8 and the Cobra are totally different cars. Surprised you would really compare them, even if C&D does. If you really like the Cobra, I'm not sure if you would love the RX-8. Which I think is important when buying a fairly expensive car.

Maybe I'm a little biased, I used to have an S2000 and that car has nothing compared to what the RX-8 will have amenities wise. But you know what, everyone bought that car for what it could do, not what it couldn't. If you can't be happy because you can't shuffle your music, please cancel, and go get that C70. Oh, and you only get a 3cd changer, will that be enough?

Sorry for being harsh, but know what the car is about before you put a deposit down!!

ERIK

JTek_55

You may some good points in your post and I agree with them fully. However, I am not considering cancelling my order because of some stupid CD changer. I am not cancelling my order because of the lack of climate control either. What I said was that I was thinking of canceling my order due to Mazda's apparent view of their customers. It seems that they are using some packages here, and some different packages over there. And oh yeah, if you want what they got for free, you are gonna have to pay for it.

My point basically is this. I don't want to go to the dealership once the car gets here and they say: Ok, your car is here and with the equipment you want (CD Changer, Climate Control, S03 tires), your total price comes to 35,600 dollars while other countries get these things at no extra cost. (except the tires)

Don't think it could happen? The price of my car is already at $33,100. You don't think that all of those options could cost me another $2500? Bet on it.

As far as the Cobra goes, I know they are two completely different cars, but I really like each of them for different reasons. I like the RX-8 for:

1)Styling
2)Rotary power
3)Smoothness of engine
4)9000 RPM redline and 10k fuel cut-off
5)Luxury of interior and features (Exactly what I meantioned above)
6)Practicality

I like the Cobra for:

1)390 break-neck horsepower
2)390 break-neck torque
3)Mustang (SVT Cobra) heritage
4)Easy to work on engine
5)Tried and true platform as opposed to a completely new chassis, engine and suspension. (Like the RX-8)

Now it should be easy to tell that I like the RX-8 much more as an all around package, but I refuse to pay thru the nose for it just because I live in NA.



-PS Sorry for the long post.

RX-Nut

I think the 6 CD changer would be a nice gift to all the pre-orderers! Hehehe.. come on Mazda.. it cares to share.

erik

I wasn't really shooting at you JTek. I see your points, but I think that happens with a lot of cars. I don't really know, so I'm not going to say I do.

About climate control, I don't think that would be an easy an addon once they got here. But again, I have no idea. And the changer, I see that whole console as one integrated piece. I have a feeling the radio is blended in with the HVAC (that's what it looks like to me from the pictures), I think we'll find that the changer will be there when we get them, or we won't get the chance to have it (or you're right, it will be expensive). I'll probably be wrong, but it won't be the first time.

I wish I knew why these parts are not being offered to the US. Also, it's tough to compare the finances of other countries. I have a feeling Mazda does not want to see another RX-7 happen here. A great car that nobody buys because of it's price. So they want to keep the price down as much as possible. It's all speculation, but it bothers me when someone buys a car to impress his friends!!

And again, that Cobra is MEAN!! You won't go wrong going with the Cobra, I'm sure.

ERIK

lurcher

$7,800 is "no extra cost"? You can see what I'm getting for my money here

http://www.mazdarx8.co.uk/upclose/specs/default.asp

but it looks to me like you're getting rather a good deal.

RX-Nut

Well isnt that special.... lucky dudes.

moogle

I am getting the grand touring edition and I really don't know the total price of it. I am guessing around 35 and up. Wish they make it a little cheaper on the top edition, heck I could get a used M3 or used zo6.

AccessoryMan

What you guys need to do is compare the complete vehicle content list for what is included in each country. Yes some markets may get things that are options here in the US, but they may have to pay for what we get as standard equipment. I think that Mazda wanted to control the costs of the RX-8 and that means leaving somethings as options that you would like to see as standard equipment. When comparing the RX-8 against 350Z, G35 and other "sports cars" you will see that you are getting value for your dollar.

rx8daniel

With no dealer "market adjustment" or other type of price increase, the MSRP for a GT is 31,100; add 2000 w/ Nav; subtract some for auto (800) for 30,300.

zoom44

i think it's more than what the car doesn't have in the states. the problem is what some people (including me) consider to be bad faith on mazda's part. many people pre-ordered the car on blind faith. the various cars and pictures of cars that were available to us at the deadline for pre-ordering showed certain amenities, including the changer and the climate control. but now as we get closer to our cars thing are disappearing. the cd changer can be added later for a price, maybe. but many people were led to believe they were getting in the bose package. there was a pic taken at the detroit or tokyo show in 2002 which listed a cd changer as part of the specs. of course that was a long time ago and things change. i don't see how automatic climate control can be added later and again we were led to believe it was there because of statements and photos from mazda. it seems that the lack of definitive info at the time of ordering is the real problem. mazda could be doing better at keeping people informed.

RX-Nut

true.. and seeing as a bunch of our cars are already being built, shouldnt they know by now what's in them?

I think someone needs to send Mazda another email :p

zoom44

i would do it but they said they won't answer me any more:

"As the matters involved in your inquiries will now be
best handled at the dealership level, any further e-mails to this
department will be documented, without response, for corporate record only. "


i have another idea though. i will work on it and get back to you folks

zoom44

have questions you need answers for? can't get them from your dealer or by emailing rx8orders@mazdausa.com? write them down and save them. you will have your chance in a couple of days hint hint stay tuned

RX-Nut

hmm, know something we dont? do tell! PM me I promise I wont blab hehe

RotaryXTypeSH

they will throw in the cd changer cuz I KNOW they will....

RX-Nut

sure hope so!

rx8daniel

zooom44 - don't hold out on us...what's coming up??

jtdwab

At least let us know what day or how long we have to wait?

zoom44

don't know yet still working on it. you'll know as soon as i know

chenpin

Did anyone notice that In dash 6CD Changer is now available as a $500 option? Goto the http://www2.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/rx8/index.jsp to check it out.

Wing

We get it in Canada standard, WOOHOO!

MrWigggles

Not only is it a $500 option. You don't even get to keep your normal CD player. That is to say the changer is $500 more than the single disc. RIP OFF!!!

Well, the good news is that it is probably a high margin item for the dealer and considering most pre-order folks have already negotiated price. You can approach your dealer like this:

"You want to make a quick $50 bucks? Add the changer to my order for $450." (I'm guessing that the changer is no more than a $400 dealer option. Edmund's should have dealer costs posted soon.)

Not that $450 is that much better; but it is starting to sound a little more reasonable.

-Mr. Wigggles

colin204

can we add options at the dealer if we are in the first group. I want the spoiler and a few other options.