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01-10-2003, 02:46 PM
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From their website: http://www.bose.com/products/auto/faq.html
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1. Can I change my Bose music system?
A) Can I add a CD player or changer? Yes, in most cases. When we work with a car company to design a music system, provision for adding CD capability is almost always included. To discover which CD players and/or changers will work best in your car, contact your dealer. If you’re not sure whether the option of adding a CD player or changer was specified for your car by the manufacturer, call us at the number at the bottom of this page.
B) Can I add a new radio? No. Each Bose automotive music system is completely integrated, with every element custom-engineered to work together as a whole. That’s why the music sounds so rich and lifelike. To help achieve this sound quality, special circuits are built into the system. Some of these circuits reside in the radio, including our unique fader, treble and bass circuitry, volume level compensation and signal compression algorithms. If you install a new radio, you lose these circuits. The results can include decreased sound quality, incorrect bass and treble balance, distortion at high volumes, and loss of bass at low volumes.
C) Can I add a subwoofer? No. As noted above, each Bose automotive music system is completely integrated, with every element engineered to work together as a whole. That’s why the music sounds so lifelike. If you add a subwoofer to the system, its output will most likely not be proportionate with that of the speakers already in place. In those cases, the sound quality will not be enhanced at all -- certainly not at every volume level.
2. Can I buy the parts to add a Bose music system to my car if:
A) My car’s manufacturer does not offer a Bose system as an option? No.
B) My car’s manufacturer does offer a Bose system as an option, but I didn’t get it when I bought the car? No.
Here’s why: Each of our automotive music systems is custom-tailored to take advantage of its particular car model’s acoustics. It is engineered as part of the car itself, and installed on the car manufacturer’s assembly line. During installation, the system’s elements become part of the automobile; even the wiring can be different than you find in traditional music systems. And, of the utmost importance, special acoustic checks and balances are performed to ensure that the sound quality meets our standards. Thus, we do not sell our systems or the individual parts as aftermarket products.
3. Why can’t I get a list of technical specifications?
Because our custom-engineered, complete system solutions largely supersede conventional audio measurements. Even some basic building blocks have been redefined -- including amplifiers, speakers and equalizers. But most importantly, everything is integrated and works together for results that vary significantly from those provided by conventional systems made up of individual, unmatched components. For example, with a Bose automotive system the location and design of the speakers can be much more important factors in determining the output than the wattage power rating. The bottom line? The best tests of a Bose system’s sound quality aren’t a list of specifications, but your ears.
4. My Bose music system sounds great when I play CDs or tapes, but radio reception doesn’t seem as satisfying. Shouldn’t I be hearing better radio reception?
No. What you’re hearing is a limitation in FM broadcast technology, rather than something broken inside your car. As you’ve undoubtedly noticed, FM signals become weaker and stronger as you drive. They’re also subject to interference, particularly in urban environments. The bottom line for you is that at the present time there’s just no way to give an FM broadcast the sound quality of a CD. What you can get out of a music system is only as good as what comes into it.
5. If my Bose music system is so advanced, why doesn’t it have lots of buttons, dials, and other controls?
Because we engineer our systems to put the technology on the inside, not on the outside. When you’re driving, you don’t really want to spend time and concentration adjusting lots of controls to fine-tune your car’s music system, do you? The important thing to understand is that what looks simple on the outside is actually much more complex within. With a Bose automotive music system, the tweakings and fine-tunings necessary for high-fidelity sound all take place inside the system. For example, even a simple adjustment of the volume control releases a symphony of changes, as Bose patented signal processing automatically re-creates natural tonal balance at the new volume level. You’re left free to hear -- and enjoy -- the music, without having to make the many adjustments required for high-fidelity sound yourself.
6. I’ve been told I have a Bose music system in my car...is there a way I can tell for sure?
Yes. Look for our logo. You can find it in every car with one of our music systems, though it isn’t always obvious. For help locating it in current car models, refer to our Model Directory. If you have a previous model, look at the speakers in the front and rear doors, the speakers in the rear shelf, the front of the radio, and in the radio’s electronic display panel when you first turn on the system. If you can’t find our logo in any of these places, your car almost certainly doesn’t have a Bose music system. If you’re still in doubt, contact us at the number below.
7. Can Bose help me get service on my car’s music system?
Yes. For this question and any others concerning our automobile music systems, give us a call or send us an e-mail.
In the US and Canada call:
1-800-231-2673
Outside the US and Canada call:
1-508-766-6885
Hours:
Monday - Friday 8:30 AM - 5:00 PM EST
(13:30 - 22:00 GMT)
For information about our other, non-automotive products call:
1-800-999-2673
(1-800-WWW-BOSE)
Outside the US and Canada:
1-508-766-1099
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1. Can I change my Bose music system?
A) Can I add a CD player or changer? Yes, in most cases. When we work with a car company to design a music system, provision for adding CD capability is almost always included. To discover which CD players and/or changers will work best in your car, contact your dealer. If you’re not sure whether the option of adding a CD player or changer was specified for your car by the manufacturer, call us at the number at the bottom of this page.
B) Can I add a new radio? No. Each Bose automotive music system is completely integrated, with every element custom-engineered to work together as a whole. That’s why the music sounds so rich and lifelike. To help achieve this sound quality, special circuits are built into the system. Some of these circuits reside in the radio, including our unique fader, treble and bass circuitry, volume level compensation and signal compression algorithms. If you install a new radio, you lose these circuits. The results can include decreased sound quality, incorrect bass and treble balance, distortion at high volumes, and loss of bass at low volumes.
C) Can I add a subwoofer? No. As noted above, each Bose automotive music system is completely integrated, with every element engineered to work together as a whole. That’s why the music sounds so lifelike. If you add a subwoofer to the system, its output will most likely not be proportionate with that of the speakers already in place. In those cases, the sound quality will not be enhanced at all -- certainly not at every volume level.
2. Can I buy the parts to add a Bose music system to my car if:
A) My car’s manufacturer does not offer a Bose system as an option? No.
B) My car’s manufacturer does offer a Bose system as an option, but I didn’t get it when I bought the car? No.
Here’s why: Each of our automotive music systems is custom-tailored to take advantage of its particular car model’s acoustics. It is engineered as part of the car itself, and installed on the car manufacturer’s assembly line. During installation, the system’s elements become part of the automobile; even the wiring can be different than you find in traditional music systems. And, of the utmost importance, special acoustic checks and balances are performed to ensure that the sound quality meets our standards. Thus, we do not sell our systems or the individual parts as aftermarket products.
3. Why can’t I get a list of technical specifications?
Because our custom-engineered, complete system solutions largely supersede conventional audio measurements. Even some basic building blocks have been redefined -- including amplifiers, speakers and equalizers. But most importantly, everything is integrated and works together for results that vary significantly from those provided by conventional systems made up of individual, unmatched components. For example, with a Bose automotive system the location and design of the speakers can be much more important factors in determining the output than the wattage power rating. The bottom line? The best tests of a Bose system’s sound quality aren’t a list of specifications, but your ears.
4. My Bose music system sounds great when I play CDs or tapes, but radio reception doesn’t seem as satisfying. Shouldn’t I be hearing better radio reception?
No. What you’re hearing is a limitation in FM broadcast technology, rather than something broken inside your car. As you’ve undoubtedly noticed, FM signals become weaker and stronger as you drive. They’re also subject to interference, particularly in urban environments. The bottom line for you is that at the present time there’s just no way to give an FM broadcast the sound quality of a CD. What you can get out of a music system is only as good as what comes into it.
5. If my Bose music system is so advanced, why doesn’t it have lots of buttons, dials, and other controls?
Because we engineer our systems to put the technology on the inside, not on the outside. When you’re driving, you don’t really want to spend time and concentration adjusting lots of controls to fine-tune your car’s music system, do you? The important thing to understand is that what looks simple on the outside is actually much more complex within. With a Bose automotive music system, the tweakings and fine-tunings necessary for high-fidelity sound all take place inside the system. For example, even a simple adjustment of the volume control releases a symphony of changes, as Bose patented signal processing automatically re-creates natural tonal balance at the new volume level. You’re left free to hear -- and enjoy -- the music, without having to make the many adjustments required for high-fidelity sound yourself.
6. I’ve been told I have a Bose music system in my car...is there a way I can tell for sure?
Yes. Look for our logo. You can find it in every car with one of our music systems, though it isn’t always obvious. For help locating it in current car models, refer to our Model Directory. If you have a previous model, look at the speakers in the front and rear doors, the speakers in the rear shelf, the front of the radio, and in the radio’s electronic display panel when you first turn on the system. If you can’t find our logo in any of these places, your car almost certainly doesn’t have a Bose music system. If you’re still in doubt, contact us at the number below.
7. Can Bose help me get service on my car’s music system?
Yes. For this question and any others concerning our automobile music systems, give us a call or send us an e-mail.
In the US and Canada call:
1-800-231-2673
Outside the US and Canada call:
1-508-766-6885
Hours:
Monday - Friday 8:30 AM - 5:00 PM EST
(13:30 - 22:00 GMT)
For information about our other, non-automotive products call:
1-800-999-2673
(1-800-WWW-BOSE)
Outside the US and Canada:
1-508-766-1099
01-10-2003, 02:56 PM
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3. Why can’t I get a list of technical specifications?
Because our custom-engineered, complete system solutions largely supersede conventional audio measurements. Even some basic building blocks have been redefined -- including amplifiers, speakers and equalizers. But most importantly, everything is integrated and works together for results that vary significantly from those provided by conventional systems made up of individual, unmatched components. For example, with a Bose automotive system the location and design of the speakers can be much more important factors in determining the output than the wattage power rating. The bottom line? The best tests of a Bose system’s sound quality aren’t a list of specifications, but your ears.
Because our custom-engineered, complete system solutions largely supersede conventional audio measurements. Even some basic building blocks have been redefined -- including amplifiers, speakers and equalizers. But most importantly, everything is integrated and works together for results that vary significantly from those provided by conventional systems made up of individual, unmatched components. For example, with a Bose automotive system the location and design of the speakers can be much more important factors in determining the output than the wattage power rating. The bottom line? The best tests of a Bose system’s sound quality aren’t a list of specifications, but your ears.
What a cop-out! If they published their specification, audiophiles would laugh out loud. Their Acoustimass home system is crossed over so high you can hear voices coming out of the subwoofer.
01-10-2003, 03:49 PM
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No wonder Bose doesn't publish there specifications.
This website has some measurements of a Bose system which were performed by Sound and Vision magazine. They are the worst I have ever seen by a factor of about 5. They have a huge gap between 202 and 280hz.
If their car systems perform anything like this, I will have no option but to buy a base RX-8. Thank God I did not get it in my Infiniti!
See, "The Cold Hard Numbers" 1/3 of the way down the page. The rest of it is a decent read if you like audio.
Bose: Better Profit Margins through Shortcuts
This website has some measurements of a Bose system which were performed by Sound and Vision magazine. They are the worst I have ever seen by a factor of about 5. They have a huge gap between 202 and 280hz.
If their car systems perform anything like this, I will have no option but to buy a base RX-8. Thank God I did not get it in my Infiniti!
See, "The Cold Hard Numbers" 1/3 of the way down the page. The rest of it is a decent read if you like audio.
Bose: Better Profit Margins through Shortcuts
or just rip out the whole BOSE setup.. 
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At the L.A. Autoshow there was an Mazda 6 with entire console replaced. In it's place was a double din unit.. and whole bunch of other crap, ps2 in the rear, 2 subs, and 3 components on the rear deck. I'm going back to the show tommorrow to talk to guy. I didn't have time to talk to the guy, but I'm willing to bet the AC didn't work.
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Does anyone out there have an older RX-7 that had the bose sound system. As I remember the last couple of US versions had Bose systems. Beyond that anybody had a chance to listen to the Bose system in the 350Z (included in the touring package).
I also wonder if it will include noise canceling as in the 350Z and their headphones. I can tell you the quiteconfort headsets incredible on a long plane flight. They take away 90% of the engine noise on a plane. If the system works close to the headphones then it should be nice to ride without road noise.
I also wonder if it will include noise canceling as in the 350Z and their headphones. I can tell you the quiteconfort headsets incredible on a long plane flight. They take away 90% of the engine noise on a plane. If the system works close to the headphones then it should be nice to ride without road noise.
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Re: Other Cars
Originally posted by jtdwab
Beyond that anybody had a chance to listen to the Bose system in the 350Z (included in the touring package).
Beyond that anybody had a chance to listen to the Bose system in the 350Z (included in the touring package).
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