Custom Aux-In Module
#451
Registered User
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Wayne, NJ
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I know this would seem wasteful, but desperate times call for desperate measures. What if we could buy the tape deck and send it with return shipping and the money for the aux in module. You could then desolder the connector and use it for the module. This would work on a customer by customer basis. I know i would be willing to pay top dollar for this aux in module.
#452
Registered User
Originally posted by bobclevenger
Matsushita and Pioneer are related somehow. When you try to find info on Matsushita you are directed to a Pioneer address. The CD changer is made by Matsushita and has the part # GJ6D 79 EGX on it.
Matsushita and Pioneer are related somehow. When you try to find info on Matsushita you are directed to a Pioneer address. The CD changer is made by Matsushita and has the part # GJ6D 79 EGX on it.
#453
Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: South Florida
Posts: 1,080
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Another option is to buy a couple stock head units as cores and have people that don't want to solder send you their HU. Its more work and I would expect you to charge a reasonable fee for that service..enough to do it, or (more likely) pay someone to do it.
jds
jds
#454
OverLOAD,
What about these guys? They seem to have what you are looking for in quantities of 1000.
http://www.silma.dk/en/catalogue/ite...ategory_id=555
Hope that Helps,
Lysander
What about these guys? They seem to have what you are looking for in quantities of 1000.
http://www.silma.dk/en/catalogue/ite...ategory_id=555
Hope that Helps,
Lysander
#455
Int'l Man of Mystery
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 3,651
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally posted by jtimbck2
Pioneer and Panasonic are both subsidiaries of Matsushita.
Pioneer and Panasonic are both subsidiaries of Matsushita.
Matsushita brands are Panasonic (A/V electronics) and National (household appliances in Japan)
#456
Hyper Space RX-8 _,.-^'`
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Motor City
Posts: 529
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I've seen them, and for some reason, I can't get any kind of response from them..
Regards,
OverLOAD
Regards,
OverLOAD
Originally posted by Lysander
OverLOAD,
What about these guys? They seem to have what you are looking for in quantities of 1000.
http://www.silma.dk/en/catalogue/ite...ategory_id=555
Hope that Helps,
Lysander
OverLOAD,
What about these guys? They seem to have what you are looking for in quantities of 1000.
http://www.silma.dk/en/catalogue/ite...ategory_id=555
Hope that Helps,
Lysander
#457
Originally posted by OverLOAD
I've got FMS stickers all over my RX-8 HU, but the M6 HU has Matsushita stickers on it. I've also heard the about Clarion components, and the MP3 player is made by Pioneer.
I've got FMS stickers all over my RX-8 HU, but the M6 HU has Matsushita stickers on it. I've also heard the about Clarion components, and the MP3 player is made by Pioneer.
Pioneer, Clarion, Sanyo/FMS, and Panasonic/Matsushita are indeed separate companies all manufacturing compatable double-DIN modular car audio for Ford/Mazda. They apparently all get specs on the interconnects and protocols and independantly bid on the systems for each vehicle. So this is why the '02 MPV used a Panasonic while the '02 Miata uses all FMS. But they're all compatable. So my MPV with the Panasonic head unit has an FMS CD changer. No sweat!
Wouldn't we all kill for a copy of that head unit spec? I'm working with friends inside the other audio company that might have access to the specs... Know what I mean?
I also support a solder-in solution for the time being. Raise some cash, get the ball rolling, and let us have our sound!
Stephen
#458
Hyper Space RX-8 _,.-^'`
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Motor City
Posts: 529
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally posted by Ped Xing
FMS is the joint venture (now entirely owned by Sanyo) that produces most of the Ford/Mazda double-DIN head units. You can tell an FMS unit because the 4-digit ID number starts with a "4". IDs starting with 1 are Panasonic/Matsushita, 2 are Clarion, and 3 might be Pioneer.
Pioneer, Clarion, Sanyo/FMS, and Panasonic/Matsushita are indeed separate companies all manufacturing compatable double-DIN modular car audio for Ford/Mazda. They apparently all get specs on the interconnects and protocols and independantly bid on the systems for each vehicle. So this is why the '02 MPV used a Panasonic while the '02 Miata uses all FMS. But they're all compatable. So my MPV with the Panasonic head unit has an FMS CD changer. No sweat!
Wouldn't we all kill for a copy of that head unit spec? I'm working with friends inside the other audio company that might have access to the specs... Know what I mean?
I also support a solder-in solution for the time being. Raise some cash, get the ball rolling, and let us have our sound!
Stephen
FMS is the joint venture (now entirely owned by Sanyo) that produces most of the Ford/Mazda double-DIN head units. You can tell an FMS unit because the 4-digit ID number starts with a "4". IDs starting with 1 are Panasonic/Matsushita, 2 are Clarion, and 3 might be Pioneer.
Pioneer, Clarion, Sanyo/FMS, and Panasonic/Matsushita are indeed separate companies all manufacturing compatable double-DIN modular car audio for Ford/Mazda. They apparently all get specs on the interconnects and protocols and independantly bid on the systems for each vehicle. So this is why the '02 MPV used a Panasonic while the '02 Miata uses all FMS. But they're all compatable. So my MPV with the Panasonic head unit has an FMS CD changer. No sweat!
Wouldn't we all kill for a copy of that head unit spec? I'm working with friends inside the other audio company that might have access to the specs... Know what I mean?
I also support a solder-in solution for the time being. Raise some cash, get the ball rolling, and let us have our sound!
Stephen
Without a doubt, it's Mazda confidential. Perhaps something has floated around a few places that can slip through the cracks?
OverLOAD
#460
Goh Mifune
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Green Oaks, IL
Posts: 850
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally posted by OverLOAD
Perhaps something has floated around a few places that can slip through the cracks?
OverLOAD
Perhaps something has floated around a few places that can slip through the cracks?
OverLOAD
#461
Hyper Space RX-8 _,.-^'`
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Motor City
Posts: 529
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally posted by MEGAREDS
You might be happy not to have it were it to be leaked to you, OverLOAD. There's a reason things are reversed engineered in a certifiable environment. If you had access to the HU specs, I'd expect you'd be sued the moment you implemented anything of any value that relied on them, particularly if Mazda or whoever owns them could trace the leak back to someone in their organization with a Confidentiality Agreement. I'm certainly no expert on it, but I think it is a business tort to knowingly use information for commercial purposes that is also known to be the subject of trade secret protection.
You might be happy not to have it were it to be leaked to you, OverLOAD. There's a reason things are reversed engineered in a certifiable environment. If you had access to the HU specs, I'd expect you'd be sued the moment you implemented anything of any value that relied on them, particularly if Mazda or whoever owns them could trace the leak back to someone in their organization with a Confidentiality Agreement. I'm certainly no expert on it, but I think it is a business tort to knowingly use information for commercial purposes that is also known to be the subject of trade secret protection.
Regards,
OverLOAD
#462
Int'l Man of Mystery
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 3,651
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Update.
I emailed and had dinner/drinks with my connection. He passed along the info onthe situation, and it looks like I'll be getting an introduction to someone in upper management at Pioneer.
Keep everyone posted on how things progress.
OverLOAD, you've got a PM.
I emailed and had dinner/drinks with my connection. He passed along the info onthe situation, and it looks like I'll be getting an introduction to someone in upper management at Pioneer.
Keep everyone posted on how things progress.
OverLOAD, you've got a PM.
#463
Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: South Florida
Posts: 1,080
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
This is just so infuriatingly stupid. Let's see...someone got hold of specs for our equipment, used that information to sell something we have no intention of producing ourselves but which makes our product more appealing to the buyin public....we must go and sue them!
The sad part of it all...you're probably right
jds
The sad part of it all...you're probably right
jds
Originally posted by MEGAREDS
You might be happy not to have it were it to be leaked to you, OverLOAD. There's a reason things are reversed engineered in a certifiable environment. If you had access to the HU specs, I'd expect you'd be sued the moment you implemented anything of any value that relied on them, particularly if Mazda or whoever owns them could trace the leak back to someone in their organization with a Confidentiality Agreement. I'm certainly no expert on it, but I think it is a business tort to knowingly use information for commercial purposes that is also known to be the subject of trade secret protection.
You might be happy not to have it were it to be leaked to you, OverLOAD. There's a reason things are reversed engineered in a certifiable environment. If you had access to the HU specs, I'd expect you'd be sued the moment you implemented anything of any value that relied on them, particularly if Mazda or whoever owns them could trace the leak back to someone in their organization with a Confidentiality Agreement. I'm certainly no expert on it, but I think it is a business tort to knowingly use information for commercial purposes that is also known to be the subject of trade secret protection.
#464
I am all for a soldering solution! A connector is nice... but frankly its just a cosmetic part. I'd order today at $75 for this with a soldering solution, been waiting for this thing for quiet some time!
I say we have a vote or someting, since the connector seems to be the only part thats holding this up... You can release another version later, but for now!
I say we have a vote or someting, since the connector seems to be the only part thats holding this up... You can release another version later, but for now!
#465
Lubricious
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: SF Bay Area, California
Posts: 3,425
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes
on
4 Posts
I am willing to solder. Compared to pulling the HU and routing wires and power for the iPod the soldering doesn't sound too intimidating. I suggest offering the unit as a user-solder solution while still sourcing the connector. This way you'd have a number of glowing user-reports from the early adopters by the time you're ready for the larger plug-in market.
#468
Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
solder for me
I'm all for a soldering solution as well - it looks like you just need to bridge 7-8 wires, how hard can that be? It also looks like a company called DensionUSA is developing a solution specifically for the iPod, my primary reason for wanting aux. inputs.
http://densionusa.com/merchant/merch...tegory_Code=IA
It looks pretty slick for the other cars manufactures they've done it for, but pretty pricey (around $200). I'd much rather spend half that and support the Mazda community - plus they haven't even started development.
http://densionusa.com/merchant/merch...tegory_Code=IA
It looks pretty slick for the other cars manufactures they've done it for, but pretty pricey (around $200). I'd much rather spend half that and support the Mazda community - plus they haven't even started development.
#469
I'm actually the Business Development guy for Dension and we've been in dialogue with OverLOAD>
"Plus they haven't even started development"
er....? We're shipping dozens by the day!
"Plus they haven't even started development"
er....? We're shipping dozens by the day!
#471
Registered
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Boulder County, Colorado
Posts: 7,966
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes
on
3 Posts
Originally posted by OverLOAD
... While I don't need any more information on the HU spec to make this work, the easy path is a great temptation...
... While I don't need any more information on the HU spec to make this work, the easy path is a great temptation...
OverLOAD, did you ever get with CanZoomer on his connector source? Seems to me he went through this same thing on getting sourced for the PCM connector...
#472
Registered
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 456
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally posted by Lee
I'm actually the Business Development guy for Dension and we've been in dialogue with OverLOAD>
"Plus they haven't even started development"
er....? We're shipping dozens by the day!
I'm actually the Business Development guy for Dension and we've been in dialogue with OverLOAD>
"Plus they haven't even started development"
er....? We're shipping dozens by the day!
http://densionusa.com/merchant/merch..._Code=IA_Mazda
If you have a link to the one for the 8 then I'd like to see it..
#473
Guest
Posts: n/a
Shipping dozens of what?
Originally posted by Lee
I'm actually the Business Development guy for Dension and we've been in dialogue with OverLOAD>
"Plus they haven't even started development"
er....? We're shipping dozens by the day!
I'm actually the Business Development guy for Dension and we've been in dialogue with OverLOAD>
"Plus they haven't even started development"
er....? We're shipping dozens by the day!
Dension is shipping dozens by the day perhaps, but none for the RX-8, correct?
If you've followed this and similar threads on these boards there is a clear and demonstrated demand for a product. OverLOAD and others have worked diligently to support the community and have run into multiple problems. I am curious, just what does your company have to offer at this late stage of the game? I could be wrong, but I imagine you need to scramble to bring a product forth after figuring out that you may lose out on quite a few potential sales. Any thoughts you'd care to share?
#474
Dension is shipping dozens by the day perhaps, but none for the RX-8, correct?
We're already talking with OverLOAD about the assistance we can offer on connector sourcing (in progress), production and iPod/Dension DMP3 middleware integration. We are very eager to crunch the projects together.
Perhaps I'm misinterpreting your post, but I find your tone quite nasty ("I am curious, just what does your company have to offer at this late stage of the game?"..."you need to scramble..." etc).
OK, you haven't been party to the Dension/OverLOAD dialogue, but I don't see the need for this type of tone.
#475
Guest
Posts: n/a
Originally posted by Lee
Ah, now I understand your phraseology.
We're already talking with OverLOAD about the assistance we can offer on connector sourcing (in progress), production and iPod/Dension DMP3 middleware integration. We are very eager to crunch the projects together.
Perhaps I'm misinterpreting your post, but I find your tone quite nasty ("I am curious, just what does your company have to offer at this late stage of the game?"..."you need to scramble..." etc).
OK, you haven't been party to the Dension/OverLOAD dialogue, but I don't see the need for this type of tone.
Ah, now I understand your phraseology.
We're already talking with OverLOAD about the assistance we can offer on connector sourcing (in progress), production and iPod/Dension DMP3 middleware integration. We are very eager to crunch the projects together.
Perhaps I'm misinterpreting your post, but I find your tone quite nasty ("I am curious, just what does your company have to offer at this late stage of the game?"..."you need to scramble..." etc).
OK, you haven't been party to the Dension/OverLOAD dialogue, but I don't see the need for this type of tone.
As for my tone and your interpretation of it, well it is as you care to see it. Please understand, that I (we) have seen little support from many vendors in regards to various things we desire for our cars. Some of us have provided our email addresses to vendors promising to keep us up to date when a product comes to market, only to never hear from that vendor again. Then the courageous "DIY" folks here undertake the massive task of engineering a product from scratch to fill a void in the marektplace. (Thanks Guys!) Then magically, a vendor appears... I don't see my tone as nasty - I am just frustrated and skeptical. Make me a believer.