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Old 07-23-2004, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by bean438
My bad. Now that I read properly, you have the mating connector.
My friend could probably use it and see if he can come up with something to plug into it.
But let me double check with him first.

I was dealing directly with Mitsumi. They told me that they don't have any resellers for their connectors. They wanted committment for 100,000 parts per year before they would sell this part to me. They quoted $0.70 per part to do that. I can't front $70,000 to get that order. The actual complete Mitsumi part # is D37-015-020-BNBMG.

The connector on the CD modules are the Male plugs. The top of the HU has the Female plug. The bottom of the HU has the same male connector as the CD units. The Tape & MD unit have the same female socket as the top of the HU. I want to get the same connector as what is on the Tape/MD modules. The Mitsumi part isn't the exact same part, but it is close enough to work.

We're getting there on the software. I got the AuxMod working just fine in stand-alone mode, without any CD units installed. When I got the CD changer put in the system as well, it complicated things. I need to go back and validate the data that I'm transmitting on startup. The message structure seems a little more complicated than I first suspected. I need to revise the microcontrollers bus comminication engine so that I can queue messages up, since some HU messages appear to have multiple responses.

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Old 07-23-2004, 08:09 AM
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So, overLOAD, I take it that you are still working on this project, but with the lack of connectors you are not able to provide interested parties the module?
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He has stated that with no connector, he may still provide a solder-in solution.
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"may" provide.

47 pages of talk about this to just say "may"?

There are so many people willing to support OverLOAD and purchase this thing probably OVER $50 and yet its only a "may".

It isnt even about bad marketing. Its the hope everyone had, back on page 1, that he gave. Then later on, saying that he MAY so the soilder option. Ok, so like MANY of the other people, i am willing to soilder anything anywhere. So whats the holdup?
Old 07-23-2004, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by cyber_drone
"may" provide.

47 pages of talk about this to just say "may"?

There are so many people willing to support OverLOAD and purchase this thing probably OVER $50 and yet its only a "may".

It isnt even about bad marketing. Its the hope everyone had, back on page 1, that he gave. Then later on, saying that he MAY so the soilder option.
From these comments, I don't think you appreciate the extreme effort and contribution OverLOAD has performed for our community: hundreds of hours of research, troubleshooting, hardware and software design/implementation/debugging, component sourcing, preventing feature bloat, forum babysitting, etc. And all of his time has been donated.

Complaining when he's been as honest and open as possible is counter productive. It's not his fault Mazda chose a closed audio system design.

Ok, so like MANY of the other people, i am willing to soilder anything anywhere. So whats the holdup?
If you are really willing to do "anything" take a look around the forum. There are solutions if you are willing to get out the soldering iron and take a few risks. Hint: look in my .sig.

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Old 07-23-2004, 12:40 PM
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True True, and I, like overload, am still working on my huge comprehenive tutorial for iPod installation. And I also don't know when mine stuff is goona be ready, because I just don't have the time I need.
Old 07-23-2004, 02:20 PM
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You misunderstood what I was saying. That wasnt a flame. It was just disapointment that the project has been at a stand still for months now. There has been no new developments on the module. That being said, I would have hoped my now we could have the ability to get what he does have.
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For what its worth, "may" was my word. I don't actually remember what he said, I believe he indicated that it would happen at some point if a connector is not found, but I don't want to pipe up and commit him to something he didn't intend...I was simply trying to pass on information that is already in the thread, OverLOAD has enough to do without answering the same questions all the time.

He also addressed in a recent posting some of the things he has been doing with the module recently, so it is clear he is still working on making it ready for prime time.

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Lets say someone on this board was able to fabricate these connectors. Would this escalate things along?
Old 07-23-2004, 07:42 PM
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I'm sure it would.

Are you implying that you could do this? I'm just thinking since you made those plastic strakes...
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I don't think it would be a big problem. They're small and wouldn't take hardly any finishing. I've made myself a few custom connectors in the past. Not in huge quantities or anything.
Old 07-26-2004, 09:21 AM
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Hei Overload! I sent you an email long time ago that i want to buy a aux-in module without the connector! i already have a connectore which i can solder to the module!

i currentrly use the tape-mod to get aux-in. but i won't need the tape and the connector from the tape if i had your aux-in module! i just have to get the connector off the tape-module..

why isn't that possible?
Old 07-26-2004, 09:40 AM
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an so.. dont you want to wait to see if the Aux in Video/audio input is going to work..

for 130.00 thats a God send. Also it seems to plug into the nav unit and give you total input controll with the steering controlls.. We stil need an input for non Nav system cars. but .. if you have the Nav system .. now thers a cheep and easy way to get clean audio and video into the head unit

thats if it works.. well know i about a week when iget the parts.

anyway.. keep it up overlord.
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Hmm, not to stray off topic but I don't really see how the Aux in for Nav really has usable steering wheel controls... I mean, wouldn't volume/mute/mode be the usable ones just like the current array of hacks? I'd really like to see something with a serial/usb to steering wheel controls.
Old 07-26-2004, 11:31 AM
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it should just treat the aux input the same as the cd.. it will only be volume put as i understand it when there a video source it will switch automaticly to the aux input. And yes you will only be able to rasie the volume from the wheel.. But i think you will also be able to ccle to that aux input.. I may be wrong.. we will see.. Personally Iam happy with MP3s on my DVD unit. Now i can get a real audio input into the head unit.. No Fm Modulation .. yae :D
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Originally Posted by thew
...as i understand it when there a video source it will switch automaticly to the aux input.
Thew, does this mean that when you activate the rear-view camera the audio will automatically switch to the aux-in? Thas could be annoying if I'm listening to the radio and need to back up. Or am I misunderstanding?
Old 07-26-2004, 07:58 PM
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no.. the review camera has no audio ... when i put the car in reverse the rearview camera comes up on the lcd screen becasue it is switched by the avelectronics unit. but the Secondary inputs on my av unit and the DvD unit will be fead through the New MAzda Aux input. So if i turn on the dvd unit it will sense the signal and switch the Audio and video to the Aux input. witch will be my Avelectroincis A/V out that contains my DVD in a 2nd input on the DVD.

Right now that Audio path is via FM Modulation. and the video path is just bypasing the Nav system.
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OK, so the new Mazda aux input senses the audio feed from the Avelectronics unit and there is no audio from the reverse camera. Have I got it? If this works it will be very cool.

Changing subject. Are you able to get audio inputs to work on your Blaupunkt DVD player with no video signal? Mine won't do that at all. And where is this equalizer that you mentioned?
Old 07-27-2004, 11:30 AM
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yes,, basicly.. the Mazda aux input will sense a/v and switch to the aux unit.. (i belive , this is what i have read but well se wheni get it next week.)

the DVD unit will send the secondary input on the face of the unit through the unit when theres a signal. As for the EQ.. look at your remote. use the audio button i think.. Ill go look at mine to be sure.. but yes.. you can EQ any audo commming out of the DVD unit.

your instruction booklet shoudl tell you how to get to the EQ :p
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Originally Posted by thew
yes,, basicly.. the Mazda aux input will sense a/v and switch to the aux unit.. (i belive , this is what i have read but well se wheni get it next week.)
Sounds very cool. Keep us informed when you get it installed, please.

the DVD unit will send the secondary input on the face of the unit through the unit when theres a signal.
That may be a difference between the DVD-ME2 and the DVD-ME3. The ME3 won't pass an audio signal unless there is a video signal present.

As for the EQ.. look at your remote. use the audio button i think.. Ill go look at mine to be sure.. but yes.. you can EQ any audo commming out of the DVD unit.
This may be another difference between the ME2 and the ME3 because the "audio" button on my remote does not do anything unless in DVD mode.

your instruction booklet shoudl tell you how to get to the EQ :p
Thay's assuming I can find it in my castle of clutter :o
Old 07-27-2004, 09:14 PM
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heheh ok.. i am checking right now.. I dont belive the me2 and 3 are really that diffreant.

but the eq will work with any dvd that has MP3 CD ... data on it..

as for the 2nd input on the dvd.. what are you trying to send it. its easy to send it a fake video feed.
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dont you have a EQ button on yours.. ?

and the input button switches the dvd from ext to dvd to T.V. .. it should not need a video signal audio will work here..

the EQ button only eq'a the Dvd Players output.. not the ext input / output

but it still will read some 700 mps off a dvd disk
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Thew, thanks for pointing me at the "Equalizer" button on the remote. Yes, it works as long as you are playing a disc. I had tried it in TV mode just because that was an easy source and it has no function in TV or AV1 or AV2 modes, as you said.

Yes, the input button on my ME3 switches from DVD/CD to TV, to AV1 to AV2 and back, but the AV inputs are not "live" without a video signal -- I assume this is to squelch out white noise when the video signal level drops to an unusable point. I have tried this several times and as soon as I remove the video signal the audio drops out. As you said, I can just hook my rear-view camera (as soon as I get it) into both AV inputs and power it up all the time (off ACC power) and keep the AV inputs live whenever the ignition switch is on.
I'll have to try it both ways and see which I like better for ease of use. The way I'm doing it now is pretty good since I don't need to have the ME3 powered up for the aux audio sources.
And yeah, 4.5 GB of mp3 files is a LOT of music!!!

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Old 07-29-2004, 08:43 PM
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Could this be our solution to the aux in connector?:

http://members.***.net/zoomzoom/auxinmod.html

They use 2 Molex KK Housing & Terminals 8-Circuit Interconnects taped together and it seems to work.
We need a 16 pin connector.
These are supposedly used in pc's too.
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This won't work as presented with our HUs. Our HU has this connector, but it is not used for the tape module. I believe Overload is working on a solution using this connector much in the same way that the PIE adapter works (but I think Overload's going for a more complete solution).
If you want aux-in using this connector now, get the PIE adapters and hope they work with your 8; they did with mine. Or wait for a better solution in the future. Sad to say, but that's about what we have available now.


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