View Poll Results: Would you be willing to call Mazda North America twice a day until we get the maps?
Yes. I have the time to call them twice a day
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No. Mazda and Navteq are full of BS and we will never see the maps
28
31.82%
Yes, but I can only call a few times a week
29
32.95%
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Demand Mazda releases Nav update!
08-30-2005, 07:01 AM
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The UPDATE is now available for our car!
I checked today on the NAVTEQ site and it says it IS available. I'm calling ASAP and ordering. Good luck (and GOOD WORK) to those that made it happen - lol
I checked today on the NAVTEQ site and it says it IS available. I'm calling ASAP and ordering. Good luck (and GOOD WORK) to those that made it happen - lol
08-30-2005, 08:14 AM
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Flop, if you looked slightly farther back in this thread, you'd see they are currently only taking pre-orders for the new map disc. The Navteq site says it's available for ordering, but they do not actually have any to ship.
08-30-2005, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Flop
The UPDATE is now available for our car!
I checked today on the NAVTEQ site and it says it IS available. I'm calling ASAP and ordering. Good luck (and GOOD WORK) to those that made it happen - lol
I checked today on the NAVTEQ site and it says it IS available. I'm calling ASAP and ordering. Good luck (and GOOD WORK) to those that made it happen - lol
08-30-2005, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by truemagellen
you are gonig to spend $199 on this thing?
If I DO get a copy, (when they are actually shipping), I'll have my friends at Corel try and make a copy for me on their commercial equipment.
Cheers, and sorry for the not-so-new information. I was excited and thought to share my find with other bewildered owners before reading the updates to the thread.
08-30-2005, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Flop
If I DO get a copy, (when they are actually shipping), I'll have my friends at Corel try and make a copy for me on their commercial equipment.
08-30-2005, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by epitrochoid
cracking it is not the problem (well it is, since theres very few rx8 NAV owners to begin with), it's buring it. you'd need proprietary authoring software, burning hardware, and media. all of wich would surely amass to a sum greater than any of us would be willing to pay. you can't just burn the data to a DVD+/-R since we all know that DVD player wont read standard DVD. sega did the same thing with the dreamcast, but the dreamcast had a serial port to pull data off and was also able to play standard CDs.
08-30-2005, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by aruffell
I thought all you needed to do was make an image of the DVD and then burn the image... that should make a perfect backup copy of the original. Who knows, maybe the image file will appear on peer-2-peer networks and we can all try to make a copy for "educational purposes only" ;-)
08-30-2005, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by truemagellen
that applys to the original disc but not the new one
of their XBOX DVDs. Please share any info you may have that may dispell my belief. Why wouldn't it work? tnx
08-30-2005, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by aruffell
what do you mean? since the hardware reading the disk is the same, there is no way for them to stop it from reading a perfect backup copy of the original. Some game console vendor implemented a hardware protection for their games by burning them on black CDs but then a "solution" to that too was found... in our case they could simply change the firmware to cope with a new data structure but how could they stop a user from using a backup copy made by using an image of the original? If my understanding is correct, the software creating the image doesn't care about what data structure is on the disk cause it does it bit by bit. That is how, I've heard, people make their fair use legal backup copies of their XBOX DVDs. Please share any info you may have that may dispell my belief. Why wouldn't it work? tnx
of their XBOX DVDs. Please share any info you may have that may dispell my belief. Why wouldn't it work? tnxin otherwords...you can make a copy of the new Map disc...but the Nav unit will no t be able to read it
there is more to this but essentially a proffesionally pressed copy is the way to go I believe
08-30-2005, 10:10 PM
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more info...just FYI...SDAL is format designed for faster access rates of Map data since map data
probably why Navteq created/bought (history unknown) the SDAL format...which they share openly supposedly :p...I have a SDAL spec sheet but it is huge...check out their website:
http//www.sdalformat.com
which now leads to:
http://www.navteq.com/sdalformat/
probably why Navteq created/bought (history unknown) the SDAL format...which they share openly supposedly :p...I have a SDAL spec sheet but it is huge...check out their website:
http//www.sdalformat.com
which now leads to:
http://www.navteq.com/sdalformat/
08-31-2005, 07:42 PM
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Cool! Thanks for the info.
By definition, if it is a mirror copy then it should work, unless the hardware is looking for something special such as a black DVD as in my previous example. Anyhow I'll take your word... at least until I can buy my update and I'll try to make my legal backup copy ;-) just for the sake and fun to see if it works.... and avoid my precious update warping in the hot Texas sun (I would use the copy and keep the original at home).
By definition, if it is a mirror copy then it should work, unless the hardware is looking for something special such as a black DVD as in my previous example. Anyhow I'll take your word... at least until I can buy my update and I'll try to make my legal backup copy ;-) just for the sake and fun to see if it works.... and avoid my precious update warping in the hot Texas sun (I would use the copy and keep the original at home).
09-02-2005, 09:11 AM
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Copy protection is a tricky thing. The concept of a bit by bit copy is logical, but thats not quite hows things work. I dont have time to get into a huge technical discussion, but if you search on the internet, you will find some good info on it.
09-03-2005, 03:29 AM
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I called the other day and was told that Mazda is currently compiling a list of all RX-8 owners that need the navigation upgrade disc and will be mailing them out in the next 30 days. Take that for whatever it's worth
09-03-2005, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by JeRKy 8 Owner
I called the other day and was told that Mazda is currently compiling a list of all RX-8 owners that need the navigation upgrade disc and will be mailing them out in the next 30 days. Take that for whatever it's worth
09-03-2005, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by aruffell
I want to be on that list!!! I wonder what their selection criteria is.... I got my car in Jun 2004 and the disc was already outdated!
Early owners cannot use the maps without the firmware upgrade. I thought the upgrade was automatically included with the map disc...
09-03-2005, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by khoney
Aren't they only talking about the firmware upgrade, and not the maps?
Early owners cannot use the maps without the firmware upgrade. I thought the upgrade was automatically included with the map disc...
Early owners cannot use the maps without the firmware upgrade. I thought the upgrade was automatically included with the map disc...
09-03-2005, 03:07 PM
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jerky,
by upgrade, aren't they referring to the firmware?
by upgrade, aren't they referring to the firmware?
Unsticky.....
11-27-2005, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by JeRKy 8 Owner
I called the other day and was told that Mazda is currently compiling a list of all RX-8 owners that need the navigation upgrade disc and will be mailing them out in the next 30 days. Take that for whatever it's worth
My parents come to visit me for Thanksgiving and my birfday and they brought the new Nav updates to me. Mazda sent it to my previous address. New Map Upgrades Available for your Mazda DVD Navigations System reads the package and software. Going to install it next time I get a chance...
I'm happy...
11-27-2005, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by clmantis21
My parents come to visit me for Thanksgiving and my birfday and they brought the new Nav updates to me. Mazda sent it to my previous address. New Map Upgrades Available for your Mazda DVD Navigations System reads the package and software. Going to install it next time I get a chance...
I'm happy...
I'm happy...