Hands-free speaking system installation to the build in car radio
#26
Good news, well mostly good news. I've got the whole Parrot/Qubit install working now. First I hooked up the speaker cable/mute that came with the Parrot to simply verify that the relay in it would cycle and that the Parrot was working. I could hear the relay so I then moved on to the Parrot<->Qubit adapter.
As I mentioned previously the wiring on the adapter was wrong when I received it and I had to reverse the pinouts. Working on the hunch that there was more wrong with the wiring scheme than a simple reversal I tried the mute lead from each pin that the Parrot speaker cable had a connection and eventually found a lead that would make the Qubit cycle.
The problem was that the Qubit still wouldn't cycle reliably.
Thommino's suggestion about the ignition didn't sound like it should make a difference as I have verified +12V on both the accessory and constant leads but I thought I'd try it anyway. Started the car and tried the Qubit again, works perfectly. Shut off the engine and it still was working, turn the car all the way off and back on but don't start it and it once again doesn't work.
I have no idea what difference the Qubit is seeing between post and pre start electrical conditions, especially since post start I can leave the car running, unplug the Qubit completely, plug it back in and still have it work.
The only remaining issue is that the Qubit module seems to have a bad solder connection or something, I had it quit working several times during the install, but just a little bit of pressure on one of the speaker connections and it starts working again. Hopefully with it all tucked away now it will keep working, it not I'll need to exchange it.
If anyone else is attempting a Parrot CK3100/Qubit HiFi mute install drop me a note and I'll let you know what I finally came up with for the correct wiring.
As I mentioned previously the wiring on the adapter was wrong when I received it and I had to reverse the pinouts. Working on the hunch that there was more wrong with the wiring scheme than a simple reversal I tried the mute lead from each pin that the Parrot speaker cable had a connection and eventually found a lead that would make the Qubit cycle.
The problem was that the Qubit still wouldn't cycle reliably.
Thommino's suggestion about the ignition didn't sound like it should make a difference as I have verified +12V on both the accessory and constant leads but I thought I'd try it anyway. Started the car and tried the Qubit again, works perfectly. Shut off the engine and it still was working, turn the car all the way off and back on but don't start it and it once again doesn't work.
I have no idea what difference the Qubit is seeing between post and pre start electrical conditions, especially since post start I can leave the car running, unplug the Qubit completely, plug it back in and still have it work.
The only remaining issue is that the Qubit module seems to have a bad solder connection or something, I had it quit working several times during the install, but just a little bit of pressure on one of the speaker connections and it starts working again. Hopefully with it all tucked away now it will keep working, it not I'll need to exchange it.
If anyone else is attempting a Parrot CK3100/Qubit HiFi mute install drop me a note and I'll let you know what I finally came up with for the correct wiring.
#28
@Thommino
I checked the green button this morning at my system. It's ok and I can accept a call by pressing the button. In day to day operation I use the automatic accept function, I don't need the green button. Anyway, it works. Also with just the key in ignition on position the system works perfectly. I shut down my 8 every morning arriving at work and keep on talking whith engine off. I tried after your post with two different Nokia mobiles.
Did you check the Parrot forum on the homepage to check for the problems?
Bob
I checked the green button this morning at my system. It's ok and I can accept a call by pressing the button. In day to day operation I use the automatic accept function, I don't need the green button. Anyway, it works. Also with just the key in ignition on position the system works perfectly. I shut down my 8 every morning arriving at work and keep on talking whith engine off. I tried after your post with two different Nokia mobiles.
Did you check the Parrot forum on the homepage to check for the problems?
Bob
#29
Qubit write: "If you give me your address we will ship you a new box that will make your system work without the need to power on"
Now I must check because the green button doesn't work. Can I use a tester?
How?
Now I must check because the green button doesn't work. Can I use a tester?
How?
#30
Well I got my system up and running in my car. I have the Parrot CK3000 along with the Qubit mute lead tucked away in my dash next to the glove box. I'm using the Motorola V710 with this system. My only complaint is probably that I can't make calls while the engine is off. Not that it's a big deal at all to me since I'm hardly on the phone while sitting in my garage. It all went in pretty smoothly. Definately less time than the iPod install since I had already taken the security screw out for that task. Those were my two main mods for the car I wanted to do this year and they're both done as of tonight.
#31
Successful installation of Parrot 3100 and HiFi Mute
I'm a US owner with the Bose sound system, and I recently bought the Parrot CK3100 and the HiFi Mute System from QuBit.
I ordered the HiFi mute system from ProClipUSA, and although the product took quite a while to arrive (The were having issues with one of the suppliers) I did receive all of the necessary parts to perform this ABSOLUTELY PLUG AND PLAY product.
The HiFi mute system has a pair of adapters that correspond to the wiring harness on the head unit. I simply removed the plug from the head unit, plugged the HiFi Mute System plug into the head unit, and then attached the original plug into the corresponding female unit on the HiFi Mute System.
Even more simply put, the HiFi Mute System just sits in series between the wiring harness and the head unit.
A cable is made specifically for various types of hands free kits, so I was supplied with a cable for the Parrot CK3100. I plugged that cable into both the parrot and the HiFi Mute System,
Turned my ignition to the ON position (NOT necessary to start the car, but this system receives its power through the head unit, so the head unit must have power) and bingo, the system worked.
Simple.
When a call comes in, the stereo mutes, a caller ID is displayed, and if I answer (This can also be automatic) the audio comes through all 4 speakers.
When the call ends, the stereo volume increases again.
Simple.
The Parrot CK3100 display fits into the ashtray (Although I am having a custom piano finish mount made in place of the ashtray).
The HiFi Mute "box" and the Parrot "box" are both behind the glove compartment.
The system is perfect, and I can highly recommend it!
PS My phone is a Motorola V600, so the Bluetooth makes the connection to the Parrot!
I ordered the HiFi mute system from ProClipUSA, and although the product took quite a while to arrive (The were having issues with one of the suppliers) I did receive all of the necessary parts to perform this ABSOLUTELY PLUG AND PLAY product.
The HiFi mute system has a pair of adapters that correspond to the wiring harness on the head unit. I simply removed the plug from the head unit, plugged the HiFi Mute System plug into the head unit, and then attached the original plug into the corresponding female unit on the HiFi Mute System.
Even more simply put, the HiFi Mute System just sits in series between the wiring harness and the head unit.
A cable is made specifically for various types of hands free kits, so I was supplied with a cable for the Parrot CK3100. I plugged that cable into both the parrot and the HiFi Mute System,
Turned my ignition to the ON position (NOT necessary to start the car, but this system receives its power through the head unit, so the head unit must have power) and bingo, the system worked.
Simple.
When a call comes in, the stereo mutes, a caller ID is displayed, and if I answer (This can also be automatic) the audio comes through all 4 speakers.
When the call ends, the stereo volume increases again.
Simple.
The Parrot CK3100 display fits into the ashtray (Although I am having a custom piano finish mount made in place of the ashtray).
The HiFi Mute "box" and the Parrot "box" are both behind the glove compartment.
The system is perfect, and I can highly recommend it!
PS My phone is a Motorola V600, so the Bluetooth makes the connection to the Parrot!
Last edited by PlayUltimate; 11-23-2004 at 06:44 PM.
#32
could you please take a few pics with ur v600 and show the setup?
do you use the speaker phone mic ion the v600 or does the parrot have a mic?
i have the exact same phone, although i will be selling mine since i dont get tmobile reception at my place. hopefully my next phone has bluetooth as well..
do you use the speaker phone mic ion the v600 or does the parrot have a mic?
i have the exact same phone, although i will be selling mine since i dont get tmobile reception at my place. hopefully my next phone has bluetooth as well..
#33
Will take some pictures
Irfan,
I will take some pictures (Maybe this afternoon), but I don't have my positioning finalized...I have to wait for my astray replacement to be finished!
The Parrot has a microphone with a very long cable...long enough to easilt route from behind the glove compartment, up the A pillar, over the headliner, and down to the mirror. It's small, so I will put it on the upper side of the mirror, and no one will ever be the wiser!
The Parrot unit also has a fantastic voice recognition system, so no need to fumble with numbers.
I'll take the pics ASAP.
I will take some pictures (Maybe this afternoon), but I don't have my positioning finalized...I have to wait for my astray replacement to be finished!
The Parrot has a microphone with a very long cable...long enough to easilt route from behind the glove compartment, up the A pillar, over the headliner, and down to the mirror. It's small, so I will put it on the upper side of the mirror, and no one will ever be the wiser!
The Parrot unit also has a fantastic voice recognition system, so no need to fumble with numbers.
I'll take the pics ASAP.
Last edited by PlayUltimate; 11-24-2004 at 06:50 AM.
#35
jfischb,
The HiFi Mute System from QuBit (www.quibut.dk) is made to interface to many different hands-free kits, but I'm not sure about the Nextel. Looking at the Nextel site, it seems like they have a couple of different kits that work with the i860...even interfacing with the direct-connect button. You may want to contact QuBit and see what hands-free kits they interface with that will work with the Nextel.
As I said in a previous post, I am extremely happy with the parrot CK3100, but this is not an option for you since it is a bluetooth system.
If you can get an adapter to link right into the QuBit, that would be perfect, then all you need to do is find a mounting location for the Nextel. You might find some help at www.Proclipusa.com
The HiFi Mute System from QuBit (www.quibut.dk) is made to interface to many different hands-free kits, but I'm not sure about the Nextel. Looking at the Nextel site, it seems like they have a couple of different kits that work with the i860...even interfacing with the direct-connect button. You may want to contact QuBit and see what hands-free kits they interface with that will work with the Nextel.
As I said in a previous post, I am extremely happy with the parrot CK3100, but this is not an option for you since it is a bluetooth system.
If you can get an adapter to link right into the QuBit, that would be perfect, then all you need to do is find a mounting location for the Nextel. You might find some help at www.Proclipusa.com
Last edited by PlayUltimate; 11-24-2004 at 06:12 PM.
#37
Temporary Parrot CK3100 Install w/Pics
Here are a few pictures of my Parrot CK3100 installation. I say temporary because I am not too happy with the gaps around the unit, and I would like to make it look a little more integrated. One nice note is that the ashtray door still closes so I can hide it away from prying eyes!
The ashtray took some modifying, but that's what a Dremel is great for!
I didn't take any pictures of the "behind the scenes" wiring because there is nothing too it! Everything fits nicely behind/along side the glovecompartment.
Mounting the microphone near the mirror accomplished a couple of things for me. 1, no drilling, and very unobtrusive. 2, being in this position allows me to not have to "point my voice" at the microphone and it also eliminates all of the echo because it is far away from the speakers.
PS Sorry about the Pic quality...just a camera phone!
The ashtray took some modifying, but that's what a Dremel is great for!
I didn't take any pictures of the "behind the scenes" wiring because there is nothing too it! Everything fits nicely behind/along side the glovecompartment.
Mounting the microphone near the mirror accomplished a couple of things for me. 1, no drilling, and very unobtrusive. 2, being in this position allows me to not have to "point my voice" at the microphone and it also eliminates all of the echo because it is far away from the speakers.
PS Sorry about the Pic quality...just a camera phone!
#41
I believe that the QuBit adapter will work with the CK3300. The CK3300 seems to be used in Europe much more, and since Parrot is a French company, and QuBit is based out of Denmark, they are much more "in tune" with each other. The US market is VERY new to QuBit.
ProclipUSA (www.proclipusa.com and speak to Bjorn) is very aware of the products for the RX8.
Info about the QuBit HiFi Mute system can be found at www.QuBit.dk
(PS I am in NO WAY affiliated with either ProClip, QuBit, or Parrot...they just happen to be the companies that I chose, and they were all VERY helpful, so be nice to them!)
ProclipUSA (www.proclipusa.com and speak to Bjorn) is very aware of the products for the RX8.
Info about the QuBit HiFi Mute system can be found at www.QuBit.dk
(PS I am in NO WAY affiliated with either ProClip, QuBit, or Parrot...they just happen to be the companies that I chose, and they were all VERY helpful, so be nice to them!)
#43
The phone really has nothing to do with the equation. If I upgrade phones, all I need to do is make sure that it has Bluetooth. The Parrot CK3100 supports (Don't quote me on this!) 5 pairings. That means that I can have 5 devices connected via Bluetooth to the unit. My wife can be sitting in the car with her phone, I can have my personal phone, and my work phone. If ANY of these receive a call, it connects to the Parrot.
#44
I yesterday installed the sony ericsson HCB-30 bluetooth handsfree together with the sony ericsson advance mute HCE-16. After doing all the wiring I found that the system would not mute and no sound could come through the speakers. I know the phone and handsfree paired allright because when I made a call the other party could hear me throuhg the handsfree microphone. I decided to use the small speaker that came with the handsfree and forget for the time being the mute system. The system now works but I get a buzzing noice through the stereo speakers when the cabin lights are on. The sound disapears when the lights go off. A buzzing sound is heard when the car is started. Any Ideas what is causing the noice and how to stop it?
Any ideas why the system does not mute? I stripped the yellow wire of the HCE-16 and plugged it in the telephone mute position in the stereo plug.
Any ideas why the system does not mute? I stripped the yellow wire of the HCE-16 and plugged it in the telephone mute position in the stereo plug.
#46
The cabling including with the parrot is designed to connected to ISO standard connectors, but the mazda stereo does not have ISO connectors. In theory, if you don't mind cutting a bunch of wires in the radio harness you can get buy without the Qubit mute but if you use the mute it's all plug and play and can be removed to leave the wiring as it came from the factory.
Last edited by Rez; 01-30-2005 at 02:33 AM.
#49
Originally Posted by Zaku-8
So if i make use of the "mute" pin of the headunit connector as previously discussed, I can get by without the qubit?
I didn't try hooking up the mute wire from the Parrot to the stereo as I am using the Qubit module so I don't know if the Parrot grounds that line or brings it high to signal a mute. You'd have to either try hooking it up or put a meter on the mute out from the Parrot to check it.