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Old 03-23-2004 | 02:25 PM
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Question Is a line converter the answer?

My setup is as follows:

Phoenix Gold Tantrum 600.4
MB Quart 6 1/2" Premium components (front)
MB Quart 6 1/2" Discus components (rear)

Phoenix Gold Tantrum 300.2 bridged
JL Audio 10W3v2

All bose speakers/amplifiers were removed except the center speaker and rear amplifier. The 300.2 is picking up a signal after the rear amp. That being said, I have two really annoying problems with which I need help:

1. Although the system sounds fantastic when the volume is turned up, at low levels I can detect noise.
2. The noise becomes even more annoying if I turn the HU off because the amplifiers stay on (since, by necessity, they're using the cigarette lighter for the remote power-on).

Everything I've read indicates that the line-level converters are most likely introducing the noise. Although the thread below is mostly over my head, my interpretation is that the devices they're discussing can convert the line-level signal to a usable preamp signal without introducing more noise as well as provide a remote power-on for the amplifiers (by sensing the voltage to the speakers). Is that correct? If so, then that should solve both my problems, assuming the noise is coming from the line-level converters and not elsewhere. At the very least it should allow me to turn off the amplifiers. For my setup, which of those devices would you guys recommend?

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...threadid=23213
http://www.pac-audio.com/products/oem1.htm

Finally, the HU in my previous car (Alpine CD-9813) had a separate channel for the subwoofer. Since these converters, at best, only have 4 channel output, should I just tap into the rear channels for the subwoofer's amplifer?

Thanks in advance for any assistance!
Old 03-24-2004 | 03:11 PM
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Try grounding for your amps in different areas. Make sure they all don't go to same spot. Anything more than doing that is above my head.
Old 03-25-2004 | 02:31 PM
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DrEvil: What brand/model of line converter are you using?

I've noticed that many converters are housed in a plastic case, which can be a problem for low-level signals. If you're tapping into the output of the Bose amp, this is probably less of an issue.

AudioLink (http://www.crutchfield.com/S-z5JZW8a...roup.asp?g=721) and SoundGate (http://www.logjamelectronics.com/sounlocbosli.html) both have converter models in aluminum cases.

Once I have my replacement HU tuner module, I'll do a bit of experimenting to see what sounds best.

Also, companies like Peripheral sell a trigger device that supposedly generates an amp remote signal from a speaker output wire (Model #LVT2, available from SoundDomain...)

The grounding point for the amp is also very important, and may require experimentation to find a low-noise ground path. As car accessories are turned on and off, the ground level at different points on the chasis can change, thereby causing noise.
Old 03-26-2004 | 11:46 AM
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More info on line output converters is posted on the thread:
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...threadid=23213
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