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Old 02-16-2006 | 06:04 PM
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I'm looking to put a remote start kit on my 04 6MT. Any reccommendations on a good kit? I want something with a good range on it, but I want my doors to remain locked. My friend's kit unlocks his doors. I beleive the 06's come witha remote start, but it doesnt look like a retrofit kit will come out for the 04 and 05's.
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Old 02-16-2006 | 06:36 PM
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uhm where you located? well any viper, clifford, hornet remote starters are pretty good.

i have the viper remote starter, which locks, unlocks, pops trunks like any other remote, also is a "alarm" which comes in handy, and plus with upgrades u can roll down your windows and moon roof and what not. im happy with my viper. so if you go that road with your car you shouldnt have a problem.

*note* if u end up getting one. note that you must change your "preset" crank longer. as we have a rotary engine and it takes a longer crank then most cars. this isnt hard. should take like 2min haha. letting you know. set it at like 1.7-2.0 sec crank u should be fine.

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Old 02-16-2006 | 08:47 PM
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I'm located in NC, our cars dont have any security features that need to be bypassed do they? Also, where is a cheap place online to get these, I wouldnt mind one with all the feature that you said the viper had.
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Old 02-16-2006 | 09:04 PM
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Alarms for ^MT

Originally Posted by mlane302
I'm looking to put a remote start kit on my 04 6MT. Any reccommendations on a good kit? I want something with a good range on it, but I want my doors to remain locked. My friend's kit unlocks his doors. I beleive the 06's come witha remote start, but it doesnt look like a retrofit kit will come out for the 04 and 05's.
-Matt
I don't know about the laws in your state but in New Jersey most remote start alarms are illegal in a manual car.The only one that I knew at the time I had it installed is called the Ultrastart with a remote start.It has safety sequences that u must go through before the car can be started remotely.
Old 02-16-2006 | 09:37 PM
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some place install some place don't. u just gotta find a place that will do it. i suggest you find a place who do alarm installations. and usually they have them to buy for. so buy from them and get it installed from them. *note* if you want windows options and others, those are extra money u gotta put in. which isnt needed. but if u wanted to, u could

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Old 02-20-2006 | 02:01 PM
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very interesting i like the idea of a remote starter. i would like to know if there is the option of JUST the remote starter i dont need other stuff such as window operation and stuff......and wich brand would be the best?
Old 02-20-2006 | 03:14 PM
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The one that i have in my car is UltraStart. Look it up and see if you like it.
Old 02-20-2006 | 03:18 PM
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As one of the few members of the forum that has experience with install and alarms due to being employed in the industry for 20 years now, my recommendation is the Compustar 2WFM8000AS. You will need a bypass module for this car that is indipendent of any alarm / rs unit. This is not a do it yourself kind of job for 99.99% of the general public.
Old 02-21-2006 | 12:12 AM
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eh jus get the viper its fine haha.
Old 02-21-2006 | 09:03 PM
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Oh God. Please Do NOT install remote start in your MT. You're asking for trouble. One of these days, you'll forget and leave it in gear. And when you try to start it, your car will start flying to walls, cars, fences, curbs...etc.. I have done it once and will never do it again. If you think you're not going to forget, someone will. If you lend your car to a friend or someone moves your car ..

in simple words..
DON'T DO IT.

I have a clifford and I have remote start on my alarm. I OPT NOT to install it.
Old 02-22-2006 | 01:04 AM
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I've never parked my car in gear before, just by habit, dont do it, dont let anyone else drive it either...
Old 02-22-2006 | 10:35 AM
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Oh God. Please Do NOT install remote start in your MT. You're asking for trouble. One of these days, you'll forget and leave it in gear. And when you try to start it, your car will start flying to walls, cars, fences, curbs...etc.. I have done it once and will never do it again. If you think you're not going to forget, someone will. If you lend your car to a friend or someone moves your car ..

in simple words..
DON'T DO IT.

I have a clifford and I have remote start on my alarm. I OPT NOT to install it.
hahahaha!!! thats some funny **** i could see that happening

dont worry GTR you have convinced me! i vowe to NEVER have a remote starter in my Rotary Xperiment-8.
Old 02-22-2006 | 11:01 AM
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i've got the Compustar 2W900FM-AS. i love it. remote start, keyless entry, windows up and down, trunk pop. great range. no complaints at all.
Old 02-22-2006 | 09:28 PM
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i hope you guys know. there is a false starter if u had it in gear and if you tried to start it, it wouldnt, i guess you didnt have that option or what not. SO REMOTE STARTERS ARE FINE! yes some can be dangerous like you mentioned but yea. its okay

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Old 02-23-2006 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by GTR
Oh God. Please Do NOT install remote start in your MT. You're asking for trouble. One of these days, you'll forget and leave it in gear. And when you try to start it, your car will start flying to walls, cars, fences, curbs...etc.. I have done it once and will never do it again. If you think you're not going to forget, someone will. If you lend your car to a friend or someone moves your car ..

in simple words..
DON'T DO IT.

I have a clifford and I have remote start on my alarm. I OPT NOT to install it.
it hasn't been that way for years. you CAN'T remote start your car in gear. if you can...then you've got the wrong system. on mine you can't remote start it unless you set the e-brake, put it in neutral and make sure not to touch the brake pedal before getting out. having it in gear disables the remote start all together.
Old 03-26-2006 | 11:33 PM
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If anyone is looking for a good remote start/alarm system, i can vouch for the COMPUSTAR remotestart/alarm.

It's the only remote start alarm system for Manual transmission that is legal in CA.

The reason being, there are many safety features to activating the remote start so you dont accidently set it in gear and start it. Basically, the censors in the alarm system knows.... you need to set the e-brake, turn the ignition to off (but the car's engine will continue running)... and then when you close the FINAL door (most likely the driver's side) that is when the car's engine will shut off and the alarm will arm itself.

That way, if the car was in gear, the car would've died since the engine keeps running correct? You also cannot step on the brake or it will kill the engine's ignition and that's how you would park in gear.. but remote start will be deactivated.

Also, the alarm system is great. it's a 2-way LCD screen pager... tells you when someone is waiting by your car (cause there's a small device on your windscreen that they can tap on to page you), you can also open windows from far away, pop trunk, etc. The range for the newest one is 1.5 miles which is really really useful sometimes and the LCD tells you if someone hit your car, doors/windows are open, etc.

I bought the alarm system for about $180 brand new off ebay, and then found a small local alarm shop that installed it for me for $120.. so $300 total. Just tellin ya
Old 03-27-2006 | 12:08 AM
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^uhm i don't know about you. but all DEI remotes. such as viper, hornet, clifford etc can do all of those features.
Old 03-27-2006 | 01:15 AM
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*note* if you want windows options and others, those are extra money u gotta put in. which isnt needed. but if u wanted to, u could
how much extra are we looking at? dont wanna get quoted and get ripped off not knowing how much this runs for...
Old 03-27-2006 | 03:21 AM
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Don't know why there is disagreement over installing a remote starter. As long as you aren't a moron who would turn start the car while it's in gear, a remote starter would benefit any RX-8 owner, considering our engines need at least 30 seconds to 2 minutes of idling to warm up (depending on how cold it is outside) after starting the car. I don't mind sitting in my car for a minute before I start driving so it's not something I need, but I can easily understand why others would desire a remote starter when it comes to this car.
Old 03-27-2006 | 06:19 AM
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My kit is great.. Leaves the doors locked, controls windows, sunroof trunk and has all the safety options that you need for it to be legal on a manual.. It's an Asain wolf 2 way lcd alarm with remote start.. Alot to put on but worth it in the long run.
Old 03-27-2006 | 07:13 AM
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um, yes, you can remote start a car if you leave it in gear. like forbidden, i have been in the industry for a number of years. i have had several cars with a manual transmission, and all of them i have installed remote starts. all of them, with the exception of the 8, would try to start even if left in gear. on the 8 though, there is a neutral safety switch that will not allow the car to remote start if the unit is hooked up properly.
Old 03-27-2006 | 03:27 PM
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It's the remote start system it's self that has the safety features on it for manuals.
Old 03-27-2006 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Hemmings1000RR
It's the remote start system it's self that has the safety features on it for manuals.
most remote start systems do not have any safety features for manual transmission vehicles, and those that do, make you go through a "dance" for safety.

on most remote start systems though, there is a wire that must see a negative (ground) signal for the remote start to be able to be engaged,

and on the rx-8, there just happens to be a sensor, on the transmission, that will read ground when the transmission is in neutral, and will not if it is in gear, allowing (as long as it is hooked up correctly) perfectly safe operation of a remote start system on the rx-8

this will also cause the system, if running via remote start, to shut down if someone happens to break in and try to drive the car away, as as soon as it is put into gear, unless the key is in the ignition and turned to the run position, will cause the engine to shut down.
Old 03-28-2006 | 07:20 AM
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Oh that's cool.. I was just stating that there are some units out there that have the safety devices on the system it's self.. That's the way the asain wolf is that I have installed.
Old 04-10-2006 | 05:59 PM
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^uhm i don't know about you. but all DEI remotes. such as viper, hornet, clifford etc can do all of those features.
i dont know about you, but no they don't. I dont think you read correctly. Unless Clifford, Hornet, and Viper came out with a new and improved alarm system in the recent months, they are not the same as compustar.


If you read my previous post, you will see that Compustar is the only legal remote start for manual cars in CA because of the fact that you gotta go thru all these safety features that allow it to be applied in a manual transmission SAFELY without the risk of starting it in gear. Viper's range sucks as well ... clifford and viper are all the same company. Between me and my friend, (him with viper 780vx I believe with remote start on his accord and my compustar)... range is better on mine ... and with the whole safety feature. Cept mine cost more.


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