3 Rotor nub help :P !
#26
uh oh !
I don't like quoting obama but.. yes we can!
You will end up with around 330\350whp with a properly built turbo kit, denmark is pretty cold so the temperatures should allow you to run with the proper timing all year round.
It's not really double the stock power but because of the intake and exhaust ports configuration it would be a very smooth power band with a high average power figure.
Many 13b rew with 400 or so hp suffer from very peaky powerbands that are pretty unusable.
You will end up with around 330\350whp with a properly built turbo kit, denmark is pretty cold so the temperatures should allow you to run with the proper timing all year round.
It's not really double the stock power but because of the intake and exhaust ports configuration it would be a very smooth power band with a high average power figure.
Many 13b rew with 400 or so hp suffer from very peaky powerbands that are pretty unusable.
well i was thinking like 450 hp minimum with this build. BUT, this new info is maybe changing my mind. 350 hmm .. i will deffinately give it some thought's . thanks man
#27
you could get more than double the stock hp from a 3 rotor. some company in jersey, dont remember which, single turbo, 3 rotor and was pushing 950hp. its all in the tune
edit: acosta motorsports
http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/disp...ofile18&bhcp=1
edit: acosta motorsports
http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/disp...ofile18&bhcp=1
Last edited by deadphoenix52; 02-07-2010 at 04:00 AM.
#28
God I love stupid people. All the info you seek can be found if you use the search function correctly. You want your setup to work without any problems but you cant look up info on the swap? You expect to be spoon fed your entire life? If your budget isn't a problem find a local shop that knows about the swap, hopefully they teach u a thing or two along the way. If you want an alternative look into the esmeril racing turbo kit. Learn to search and you'll find plenty of info on it. I look forward to reading your witty remark.
#29
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God I love stupid people. All the info you seek can be found if you use the search function correctly. You want your setup to work without any problems but you cant look up info on the swap? You expect to be spoon fed your entire life? If your budget isn't a problem find a local shop that knows about the swap, hopefully they teach u a thing or two along the way. If you want an alternative look into the esmeril racing turbo kit. Learn to search and you'll find plenty of info on it. I look forward to reading your witty remark.
But thanks for the great feedback on my thread man.. could'n have lived without it ! .........
#30
you spent 115k on an rx8? wouldn't it be cheaper for you to buy a used one in the states and ship it to denmark? better yet, buy a 3 rotor rx8 already built and have it shipped to you since money isn't an issue
#31
So let me get this strait.... You insult everyone that gives you an answer, spent 115k usd on your rx8, you don't know the difference in a 13b to a 20b, a turbo'd 13b isn't enough power for you, you can handle a 20b 2800lbs car, your profile says you're 24 and your occupation is a mechanic.
I'm gonna go with "pipe dreams" for $400 alex!
I'm gonna go with "pipe dreams" for $400 alex!
#32
So let me get this strait.... You insult everyone that gives you an answer, spent 115k usd on your rx8, you don't know the difference in a 13b to a 20b, a turbo'd 13b isn't enough power for you, you can handle a 20b 2800lbs car, your profile says you're 24 and your occupation is a mechanic.
I'm gonna go with "pipe dreams" for $400 alex!
I'm gonna go with "pipe dreams" for $400 alex!
#33
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So let me get this strait.... You insult everyone that gives you an answer, spent 115k usd on your rx8, you don't know the difference in a 13b to a 20b, a turbo'd 13b isn't enough power for you, you can handle a 20b 2800lbs car, your profile says you're 24 and your occupation is a mechanic.
I'm gonna go with "pipe dreams" for $400 alex!
I'm gonna go with "pipe dreams" for $400 alex!
2. You spent 115k usd on your rx8 = Yes cause that's what they cost in denmark so if you want an 8 that's what you gotta pay..
3. you don't know the difference in a 13b to a 20b, a turbo'd 13b isn't enough power for you = I did'n know the diffrence cause im not experienced in rotary's AT ALL.. there was once when everyone else in here was'nt either. everything has a beginning. a turbo'd 13b is good enough for me as long as we're talking 400+ hp .
4. you can handle a 20b 2800lbs car = i have had both skyline GTR and a supra before my 8. im use to alot faster car's than this so yes. i just fel in love with the "feel" of the Rx8 , there is just something about this unique machine you cant put word's on, allthough its not fast, compared to the others but that's what i wanna change..
5. your occupation is a mechanic. = Yes and i build both my GTR and supra and all other cars ive had my self, including the looks of the Rx8 BUT i have never had any instructions in Rotary's at all.. you dont get that as a mechanic in denmark cause there's so few of them.. it's a special class you get if youre from mazda or such.. so im completely green when it comes to rotary's .. i know nothing.
gh8st - Well it's not the car's that are expensive but the taxes. and if you want plates on the car there no way around taxes.. so sadly there's nothing to do ! ..
#35
^^lol, true. The cost of living in Denmark is considerably one of the most expensive places to live, I won't doubt that Opane has enough money. The amount of info on this site and others is plenty to get Opane started. Of course, consult with a professional. 13B-T will be good enough for what you want, but, the 20B will easily achieve 400+hp and will double that if you are serious.
Last edited by bhop; 02-09-2010 at 07:15 PM.
#36
#37
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^^lol, true. The cost of living in Denmark is considerably one of the most expensive places to live, I won't doubt that Opane has enough money. The amount of info on this site and others is plenty to get Opane started. Of course, consult with a professional. 13B-T will be good enough for what you want, but, the 20B will easily achieve 400+hp and will double that if you are serious.
#38
3. you don't know the difference in a 13b to a 20b, a turbo'd 13b isn't enough power for you = I did'n know the diffrence cause im not experienced in rotary's AT ALL.. there was once when everyone else in here was'nt either. everything has a beginning. a turbo'd 13b is good enough for me as long as we're talking 400+ hp .
4. you can handle a 20b 2800lbs car = i have had both skyline GTR and a supra before my 8. im use to alot faster car's than this so yes. i just fel in love with the "feel" of the Rx8 , there is just something about this unique machine you cant put word's on, allthough its not fast, compared to the others but that's what i wanna change..
I'm just poking fun but are these the cars you are talking about? http://www.youtube.com/user/OpaneOpa.../1/crLAXAdHsd0
5. your occupation is a mechanic. = Yes and i build both my GTR and supra and all other cars ive had my self, including the looks of the Rx8 BUT i have never had any instructions in Rotary's at all.. you dont get that as a mechanic in denmark cause there's so few of them.. it's a special class you get if youre from mazda or such.. so im completely green when it comes to rotary's .. i know nothing.
Two simple question's :
1. What do i need? : Can i just get a 3 rotor and put it in and go ? or do i need other stuff like gearbox new shaff's all the way to the rear wheels and stuff?
2. Is this even doable on a everyday car? : Yeah im using the car every day to work and other every day stuff ? how's the 3 rotor gonna handle that? is it posible?
Also just some advise in general about this is very apriciated ...
1. What do i need? : Can i just get a 3 rotor and put it in and go ? or do i need other stuff like gearbox new shaff's all the way to the rear wheels and stuff?
2. Is this even doable on a everyday car? : Yeah im using the car every day to work and other every day stuff ? how's the 3 rotor gonna handle that? is it posible?
Also just some advise in general about this is very apriciated ...
Some basics you will need and I'm sure I'm missing a few:
-20b engine (rebuild recommended and that alone can go into depth)
-custom motor mounts
-a clutch that will support your power
-possibly a new driveshaft length(idk)
-custom oil lines
-new radiator
-custom exhaust
-if going turbo custom turbo setup
-the correct size turbo
-custom intercooler
-custom ignition system
-custom fuel set up that will support your power needs
-custom ECU that supports the 3 rotor (Haltech, Electromotive, Microtech, Wolf3D)
-custom tuning
-all the little odds and ends with doing an engine swap like this. Believe me the "odds and ends" are MANY.
#39
It is no surprise you are going to be met with alittle hostility after starting a thread before you use the search function. Esp when this kind of thread has been started so many times before.
Ok fair enough, I didn't realize the tax on vehicles over there are astronomical!
There is a difference to being inexperienced and lazy. If you are able to start a new thread you are easily able to find this information on the web. It is EVERYWHERE. Heres a few links to get you started: http://cp_www.tripod.com/rotary/pg20.htm http://www.rx7club.com/forumdisplay.php?f=95
I'm just poking fun but are these the cars you are talking about? http://www.youtube.com/user/OpaneOpa.../1/crLAXAdHsd0
I am a professional mechanic myself and if you can work on one car you can work on any car. If you have the skill the information is out there. Having access to a lift, having the tools and knowing your way around the shop will help infinitely. It will help if you can weld though as you will need to be able to make a few custom parts to make this fit into the rx8. Being able to understand the tuning process will save you ALOT as well. This will be your biggest hurdle.
There is SO MUCH involved with this project asking a question like "what do I need" is kinda ridiculous. Being a mechanic as you say you are should already know most of what you need and should be asking "what ELSE do I need" or "what ECU should I be using". You need to get alittle more in depth if you are serious about this.
Some basics you will need and I'm sure I'm missing a few:
-20b engine (rebuild recommended and that alone can go into depth)
-custom motor mounts
-a clutch that will support your power
-possibly a new driveshaft length(idk)
-custom oil lines
-new radiator
-custom exhaust
-if going turbo custom turbo setup
-the correct size turbo
-custom intercooler
-custom ignition system
-custom fuel set up that will support your power needs
-custom ECU that supports the 3 rotor (Haltech, Electromotive, Microtech, Wolf3D)
-custom tuning
-all the little odds and ends with doing an engine swap like this. Believe me the "odds and ends" are MANY.
Ok fair enough, I didn't realize the tax on vehicles over there are astronomical!
There is a difference to being inexperienced and lazy. If you are able to start a new thread you are easily able to find this information on the web. It is EVERYWHERE. Heres a few links to get you started: http://cp_www.tripod.com/rotary/pg20.htm http://www.rx7club.com/forumdisplay.php?f=95
I'm just poking fun but are these the cars you are talking about? http://www.youtube.com/user/OpaneOpa.../1/crLAXAdHsd0
I am a professional mechanic myself and if you can work on one car you can work on any car. If you have the skill the information is out there. Having access to a lift, having the tools and knowing your way around the shop will help infinitely. It will help if you can weld though as you will need to be able to make a few custom parts to make this fit into the rx8. Being able to understand the tuning process will save you ALOT as well. This will be your biggest hurdle.
There is SO MUCH involved with this project asking a question like "what do I need" is kinda ridiculous. Being a mechanic as you say you are should already know most of what you need and should be asking "what ELSE do I need" or "what ECU should I be using". You need to get alittle more in depth if you are serious about this.
Some basics you will need and I'm sure I'm missing a few:
-20b engine (rebuild recommended and that alone can go into depth)
-custom motor mounts
-a clutch that will support your power
-possibly a new driveshaft length(idk)
-custom oil lines
-new radiator
-custom exhaust
-if going turbo custom turbo setup
-the correct size turbo
-custom intercooler
-custom ignition system
-custom fuel set up that will support your power needs
-custom ECU that supports the 3 rotor (Haltech, Electromotive, Microtech, Wolf3D)
-custom tuning
-all the little odds and ends with doing an engine swap like this. Believe me the "odds and ends" are MANY.
Ofcause i could do alot of the work myself but not everything.. so im getting someone else to do it. it will save me from alot of haedache and i have found a rotary guy (very rare in denmark) wich im talking abit back and forth with about the whole thing now.. so we'll see what im ending up with doing.
and Regarding the 1:18 cars.. well, High five detective .. :D ! atleast we had fun when making that movie !
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