outinnowhere3193

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One comment about ***** lead to almost everyone talking about a totally different subject.

05rex8

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bewbs?

where??!

TeamRX8

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Paging MM .....

TeamRX8

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Apparently you're wiser than I thought ....

shazy

/\ Wow he actually called it!

turborx8

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I just sold my GReddy turbo kit and I am now shopping for a more reliable FI solution. I would only buy your kit if I could upgrade to a Garret turbo. Would this option be possible? How would the GT3076R or GT35R compare with the "no-name" turbo that is currently included in the kit?

Also do your kits work with the Cobb AccessPort?

Brettus

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LOL at least you have a sense of humour

05rx8mazda

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I would totally buy esmerils kit if it worked with the cobb... Im selling my greddy and looking into either the HYMEE, or the SFR.

shazy

lol.

blackenedwings

For those with the GReddy kit... why in the world would you ditch the entire kit when you can easily make it the most reliable kit currently available? If you have the GReddy kit installed, follow the stickies to do the GReddy "fixes" for the oil restrictor etc, then send your Mitsu turbo off to Bryan@BNR for his upgrade. Enjoy.

czar

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05rx8mazda has the mm upgrade with his kit, he is mad because the manifold has a crack on it even after being repaired and he doesn't trust it.

i said the same thing, shame to get rid of it, but the top mount may be a little bit easier to work on and less worries about the manifold cracking.


(we were installing and both the manifolds cracked(mine and his)... mine is one i just didn't noticed until i unwrapped it, and his just randomly cracked during install)

turborx8

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I had all the fixes and had the BNR upgraded turbo. The exhaust manifold was cracked and the weld lasted 5mins. If somebody made a better manifold for the GReddy kit i would have bought it and kept the kit.

alz0rz

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Was a crappy weld job, no doubt. Why don't you just get it re-done and call it a day,, plenty of people have not had a problem with the GReddy manifold, or did and got it re-welded and taken care off indefinitely.

turborx8

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Nobody in my area will guarantee a cast iron weld. Anyone who thinks its no big deal has no clue.

Lots of people with the GReddy kit have more than one crack and some with up to 4 cracks. I am unable to do my own work because I live in a condo so having a mechanic remove the turbo every time I get a crack and shipping it out to an "expert" in a different city does not appeal to me. This is my DD so I cannot afford the downtime.

blackenedwings

While I sympathize with the daily driver bit (my 8 is my DD too) and the garage challenged aspect (I don't have one either) you aren't going to get a more reliable setup by switching to any of the available top mount kits right now. SFR was trying to make their kit work with the AccessPORT, but I haven't heard any updates about the progress so far. Esmeril has no intentions of supporting the factory ECU/MAF setup and I'm willing to risk a manifold crack to avoid an interceptor ECU. If you are even considering spending the amount of money it would take to completely swap your turbo kit to another turbo, you might want to consider pricing some custom fab work to make a new manifold. While pricey I can't imagine it would be more than a whole new turbo setup. Then again, I have no real knowledge of fabrication so who knows if its even possible to do so. I do know that with proper support the GReddy manifold should not crack. It seems to crack at the same point for basically everyone and mostly due to the exhaust levering on the manifold which eventually gives from strain and heat. A brace keeping extra stress from leaning on the manifold should prevent any further cracking. As for your weld failing 5 min after you replaced it, it sounds like a pretty crappy weld.

Brettus

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well put . There must be quite a few people with cracked manifolds out there that have managed to solve the problem at minimal expense - me included .
I fitted a big *** support bracket and have had no issues for the last 14000 miles .

chickenwafer

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Reproducing the complex GReddy manifold in stainless would probably cost more than $1,000 if you're getting it replicated exactly. If you made some changes to the turbine outlet location, etc, it could be significantly cheaper. And if you were to go to the trouble of doing it I personally would go an external wastegate, so there is another $300ish bucks for a quality TiAL EWG plus more money for flanges and a dump pipe if you wish.

You technically could use the Esmeril kit with the AP, just use the MAF in a blow-thru setup, change the intake MAF pipe for a 3.5" pipe, fit some screens in it, and it *should* work. Our Denso MAF element is the same used in the Subaru STi and it works in a blow-thru setup. I'm honestly surprised no one has tried it yet...

czar

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wasnt saying i was getting rid of mine, i am still on the long wait for mm, 3 more months and its a year ^_^. my only concern is i never get a reply back from mm, so who knows if he ships it and some one steals it, i would never know.


back to subject the esmerial doesnt look that hard to adapt to the maf system, the maf would max out sooner, which you could just get a larger pipe and scale for i think

chickenwafer

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It wouldn't max out sooner blow through...or it shouldn't.

And you could always go to a larger MAF pipe like 3.75" or 4", but if you go to big you won't be able to idle since your grams/sec will be too low.

turborx8

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ChrisRX8PR needs to chime in here.

If he can make his turbo kit work with the Cobb AP I bet he would sell 10X more kits.

Not many people like the int-x (including myself). I drive my car all year round so I dont want to bother with summer and winter MAP. When I switched from the int-x to Cobb AP it made such a huge difference that I told myself I would never go back to a MAP based system.

BDC

Never go back to a MAP based system? That's the majority of EFI systems out there and there is absolutely nothing wrong with them whatsoever. The problem here lies with the Int-X (which is actually an older Microtech unit) a long with the shoddy base "map" that was put onto the thing when they were sold. The Microtech isn't a very good unit. It's not about whether or not it uses a MAP sensor; it has to do with the design of the unit itself.

Plus, one could argue that a grams/sec system isn't a very good approach to a forced induction application anyways due to the difficulty in establishing load-based ignition curves. Normally those are build first on a MAP-based system with fuel curves done thereafter. However, on a grams/sec mass-air deal, building those (with a level of precision, that is) can be a considerably more difficult thing since grams/sec can vary from vehicle to vehicle. That's one of the dirty little secrets about those kinds of systems: determining what manifold pressure or vacuum correlates with what grams/sec per car since each and every single car is different. Grams/sec will vary especially once you start screwing with forced induction setups where a grams/sec reading at X RPM at X boost can vary with another FI setup.

Without knowing the specifics of your car, my guess is the CobbAP runs better on yours because of the first map that it was provided with along with some of its better functionality over the older Microtech and its initial map.

B

Kane

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Also - the temp corrections on the int-x absolutely suck... so you never get to have it all.

The Power FC is an example of an easy to tune MAP system... Faille's FD is in Seatlle and runs the same map year round.

Oh and the software just sucks.... I really do not enjoy fooling with the int-X.


For the RX-8; I'll always choose MAF (via Flash); over anything but the high end Aussie EMS's.....

Brettus

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Anyone worth their salt will scale the MAF before doing any tuning thereby totally eliminating that as an issue .

Kane

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Without a post compressor IAT; it is harder to tune timing than with a MAP.

But that is an easy fix.....

Brettus

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Ah yes . Did you ever get your IAT sensor in ?