9krpmrx8's Boost Build Thread
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Yeah it has been in the 50's the last couple of days, I am ecstatic with the car right now. Saturday the EBC will go on and the wastegate actuator will get tested, adjusted and possibly replaced if needed.
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brettus did an experiment on that plate.
https://www.rx8club.com/major-horsep...-plate-164382/
https://www.rx8club.com/major-horsep...-plate-164382/
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I'm composing a list if things I'd like to do this summer since i managed to neglect my car all of last summer because i was overseas for a long time. I will probably put my blocking plate in (havent had it installed since day 1 with the turbo); but Brettus you mentioned in your thread that you would have to re-tune if you installed the blocking plate because you would see more boost at the same EBC settings; did you mean retune the pcm or retune the boost controller? I don't have my EBC installed yet (it's on the to do list) so would I have to retune my PCM after installing the blocking plate then tune the BC or can I get away with just tuning the EBC after installing the blocking plate?
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I'm composing a list if things I'd like to do this summer since i managed to neglect my car all of last summer because i was overseas for a long time. I will probably put my blocking plate in (havent had it installed since day 1 with the turbo); but Brettus you mentioned in your thread that you would have to re-tune if you installed the blocking plate because you would see more boost at the same EBC settings; did you mean retune the pcm or retune the boost controller? I don't have my EBC installed yet (it's on the to do list) so would I have to retune my PCM after installing the blocking plate then tune the BC or can I get away with just tuning the EBC after installing the blocking plate?
I still think that stock greddy turbos should run without the APVs but just turning them off or unplugging them does the same thing as the plate. Problem with installing the plate is getting a seal . Have seen a few people chasing their tails trying to get it sealed properly.
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I need to take advantage of this great weather! The last time I drove the car it was pretty hot outside. Let us know how the new EBC goes. I wanted to buy that same one before I got the Blitz unit. I'm currently looking into upgrading the wastegate unit also since my current one is pretty banged up.
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I am considering a few options, I would like to try one of the Turbosmart actuators or the COBB locking actuator replacement arm and then add an external wastegate. We shall see how it goes once I get this thing programmed, I have read some great things about it.
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Of course AFR and timing are tied together so 11.4 or leaner with conservative timing can be safe too. It just depends on how you like to roll. The one advantage of a dyno is that you can play with the combo's and get a feel for what feels better.
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my vdi has been permanently sealed and blocked for years.
My a/f's are high 10's low 11's?????????
oem split and leading at 14.5 at wot/load
I have ran the denso 31's in the trailing for years without fouling--do remember we are boosted.
NP out of boost either. I do idle faster though.
They do last longer than the ngks in my engine.
http://sparkplugs.com/Data/uploads/Heat_Range_Chart.jpg
My a/f's are high 10's low 11's?????????
oem split and leading at 14.5 at wot/load
I have ran the denso 31's in the trailing for years without fouling--do remember we are boosted.
NP out of boost either. I do idle faster though.
They do last longer than the ngks in my engine.
http://sparkplugs.com/Data/uploads/Heat_Range_Chart.jpg
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You're assuming it has't been changed. The APV opening goes lean, the VDI opening goes rich. You can adjust for it *some* relative to AFR, but the limitation is the 500 rpm cell adjustment window is too wide to control it finely and what you can't adjust is the opening rate. So how quickly they do or don't open changes things relative to which gear you're in and the resulting rate of rpm change. It takes a lot of time to test and tune these details in for all conditions, or at least as close as is possible given the features in your control.
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You're assuming it has't been changed. The APV opening goes lean, the VDI opening goes rich. You can adjust for it *some* relative to AFR, but the limitation is the 500 rpm cell adjustment window is too wide to control it finely and what you can't adjust is the opening rate. So how quickly they do or don't open changes things relative to which gear you're in and the resulting rate of rpm change. It takes a lot of time to test and tune these details in for all conditions, or at least as close as is possible given the features in your control.
What you are saying about valve open timing is very true - you can't tune for it very well on a dyno either as the rate of opening relative to rate of rpm rise is never the same.
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my vdi has been permanently sealed and blocked for years.
My a/f's are high 10's low 11's?????????
oem split and leading at 14.5 at wot/load
I have ran the denso 31's in the trailing for years without fouling--do remember we are boosted.
NP out of boost either. I do idle faster though.
They do last longer than the ngks in my engine.
http://sparkplugs.com/Data/uploads/Heat_Range_Chart.jpg
My a/f's are high 10's low 11's?????????
oem split and leading at 14.5 at wot/load
I have ran the denso 31's in the trailing for years without fouling--do remember we are boosted.
NP out of boost either. I do idle faster though.
They do last longer than the ngks in my engine.
http://sparkplugs.com/Data/uploads/Heat_Range_Chart.jpg
I am still pulling my hair out though with the hard starts though, maybe 1 out of every ten starts I still get a hard start. Swapping the BHR coils did seem to reduce the instances greatly but the issue is still there and i still have the damn APV stuck open code even though Steve confirmed what I thought and said the APV's appear to be working just fine. But not having things fixed 100% is a bit annoying to me so I will keep at it.
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I like 10.8 for street cars on pump gas. It trades a fairly small amount of power for some margin of safety in the event of a crappy tank of fuel.
Of course AFR and timing are tied together so 11.4 or leaner with conservative timing can be safe too. It just depends on how you like to roll. The one advantage of a dyno is that you can play with the combo's and get a feel for what feels better.
Of course AFR and timing are tied together so 11.4 or leaner with conservative timing can be safe too. It just depends on how you like to roll. The one advantage of a dyno is that you can play with the combo's and get a feel for what feels better.
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