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Old 01-20-2009, 10:29 PM
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We will have to compare notes and cars Brettus , when I get my rx8 converted
it was at 5psi when you rode in it . At 9psi it is an entirely different animal

look forward to seeing your setup ....
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Originally Posted by Rotr8
Is this because of the way you apply throttle or because or your tuning of the throttle response?
Both.
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So I guess you dont care to tell what adjustments you made?

I would aggree with you that once you go FI there really isnt a need to shift and jam the throttle open as fast as possible, even when watching in car race footage there is rarely ever a shift that is rushed forcefully, just smooth relaxed and controled shifts...

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Originally Posted by Rotr8
So I guess you dont care to tell what adjustments you made?
You mean specific map values?
No.
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no I dont tune myself and I wouldnt ask anyone to give away thier bussiness' property or trade secrets, but in a general sense back to the original question, snappier or more gradual?
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"Massaged" would probably be the appropriate term.
The mid throttle is a bit delayed in 2nd and 3rd to lower the onset of boost (to prevent throttle snap-oversteer), but the initial tip-in of first is a bit quicker.
I do some stuff to 4th and 5th as well.
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nice,,,
and does this affect your boost in terms or how it comes(how gradually it reaches full boost) or where it comes(further into the curve)? if this is starting to reveal anything you dont want to get into thats fine...
Maybe we're getting off subject to much, just curious and always trying to learn,,, end threadjack....
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I just change where full boost comes on in the pedal travel.
Its not "later", just less surprising.
The last thing I need is all of my power all at once as I shift gears going into the NASCAR oval at PIR at 90 MPH.
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cool,,, yeah Im goin to be tracking my car this year for the first time, now that Jersey Motorsports Park is open FTW!!!
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there is a lot more throttle travel available after you hit 100% so it makes sense to make use of it all for better control ....
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Originally Posted by Brettus
there is a lot more throttle travel available after you hit 100% so it makes sense to make use of it all for better control ....
yeah i've been wondering that for months... why all the extra dead space in the throttle after you've reached 100% the way its scaled?
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Running boost (at almost any level) completely eliminates the resonance effect, so it is not a basis for tuning decisions.
helmholtz tuning actually can create small amounts of boost. Slightly pressureized air is still compressible and therefore still is capable of having pressure waves and still resonates like ambient pressure air.
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Originally Posted by paulmasoner
yeah i've been wondering that for months... why all the extra dead space in the throttle after you've reached 100% the way its scaled?
It's fine in NA use but I find it's a bit too on/off for FI .

MM - what are your settings !!!!! ?
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Originally Posted by r0tor
helmholtz tuning actually can create small amounts of boost. Slightly pressureized air is still compressible and therefore still is capable of having pressure waves and still resonates like ambient pressure air.
I have done a little experimenting and from what I've seen so far - vdi closed gives a better result
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Originally Posted by Brettus
It's fine in NA use but I find it's a bit too on/off for FI .

MM - what are your settings !!!!! ?
The throttle settings are arguably both the easiest to understand, and the safest to play with of any setting in the PCM. Mess with it and find some that you like for your particular driving style and application
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Originally Posted by paulmasoner
yeah i've been wondering that for months... why all the extra dead space in the throttle after you've reached 100% the way its scaled?
Take out your TB and look at it at 66$ duty cycle.
Its all the way open.

Just because the number is the 82% maximum doesn't mean its WO.

Originally Posted by r0tor
helmholtz tuning actually can create small amounts of boost. Slightly pressureized air is still compressible and therefore still is capable of having pressure waves and still resonates like ambient pressure air.
Perhaps.
But, in this case, it does not.
Sorry.
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Take out your TB and look at it at 66$ duty cycle.
Its all the way open.

Just because the number is the 82% maximum doesn't mean its WO.
wish i could. i'd be happy to just sit in my car..... or even see it
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Originally Posted by paulmasoner
wish i could. i'd be happy to just sit in my car..... or even see it
set up a live web cam for those lonely nights ...

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NZ charts

Originally Posted by Brettus
check out the blue line - wow what a difference .....



bit of a bummer losing traction at 6000 rpm in 2nd gear but i'll get over it

Hey Brettus, could you post one of these charts when you were still N/A, please
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/\ here ya go
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NZ Charts

Originally Posted by Brettus
/\ here ya go
Cheers, I've just done a log, and still N/A with the mods I've done, It's not to bad.
Think that AME CAI was worth the Money, plus those other bits

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what is your LTFT ?
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The test below was done in an effort to tune the power band while keeping turbo as close as possible within its efficiency map

aux port opening at 6800
aux port blocked but small hole drilled in blocking plate
pressure at turbo 10 psi rising to 12psi from 7000 onwards
pressure at UIM 9.5 to 7000 then back to about 8 from there on

The pink line is with the port completely blocked
seems to have worked
the dip n the blue line at 6200 is possibly my wastegate opening slightly . Have noticed this does not happen on every run


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Looks good man!


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