Axial Flow Supercharger
#2506
After holding it and playing with it, watching the little blades spin so effortlessly in person I can't wait to get one. Each day I anxiously wait for the bold little letters to appear and the time stamp to change.
#2507
Let there be an update RG.
Due to the tight fit of things in the engine compartment a whole new blower has to be built. This one will have an angled intake in the front and the outlet will be from the rear. While the actual stages stay the same every other part of the unit must change. That is a major undertaking. One I did not really want to do.
Think about it, the front and rear housings are all new, the hubs must change sizes. Then the center shaft is all new. The types of seals swap ends so they need new glands. The gearset has to move foward so they must be redesigned.
Oh, the nose peice can stay the same as can the pulley. Small help.
Then there are new adapters for both ends. Everything chases everything else.
It would be a luxury to buy an off the shelf blower. J/K
Nobody worry Hymee and I are buddies, I just like to rib the rumswiggingbastard
Due to the tight fit of things in the engine compartment a whole new blower has to be built. This one will have an angled intake in the front and the outlet will be from the rear. While the actual stages stay the same every other part of the unit must change. That is a major undertaking. One I did not really want to do.
Think about it, the front and rear housings are all new, the hubs must change sizes. Then the center shaft is all new. The types of seals swap ends so they need new glands. The gearset has to move foward so they must be redesigned.
Oh, the nose peice can stay the same as can the pulley. Small help.
Then there are new adapters for both ends. Everything chases everything else.
It would be a luxury to buy an off the shelf blower. J/K
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#2510
Bummed, but bring on OU!
I was thinking during some downtime today...which usually means I come up with some sort of off the wall idea that doesn't work:
Axial flow and centrifugal sc'rs make most of their airflow in the upper rpms. Would it be possible to have some sort of CVT-like transmission between the pulley and blower to control the blower's rpm to provide twin screw like boost performance? Thus gaining the boost profile of a twin screw unit, while retaining all benefits of the axial flow or centrifugal unit. Seems like it would work to me if you could find/design the "transmission."
Just a thought, while waiting for more updates.
Axial flow and centrifugal sc'rs make most of their airflow in the upper rpms. Would it be possible to have some sort of CVT-like transmission between the pulley and blower to control the blower's rpm to provide twin screw like boost performance? Thus gaining the boost profile of a twin screw unit, while retaining all benefits of the axial flow or centrifugal unit. Seems like it would work to me if you could find/design the "transmission."
Just a thought, while waiting for more updates.
#2511
/going off topic (again)/
Swoope,
I'm impressed - figuring out someones work ethic from just that ... (granted that same work ethic drives my wife nuts sometimes - after 10 years of married life, I think I've got that whole work/home balance thing worked out pretty well . . . er . . . at least until she decides I'm wrong :-)
p.s. thanks for a whole lot the beers sig (J/K), everytime I saw it I got that song stuck in my head . . .
b-double-e-double-r-u-n ... beer run!
/back on topic/
Therm8,
I believe that the question of possibly using a CVT like transmission was asked a ways back ... but it would of added too much cost to keep the the axial kit competitive.
Now if cost were no object . . .
Swoope,
I'm impressed - figuring out someones work ethic from just that ... (granted that same work ethic drives my wife nuts sometimes - after 10 years of married life, I think I've got that whole work/home balance thing worked out pretty well . . . er . . . at least until she decides I'm wrong :-)
p.s. thanks for a whole lot the beers sig (J/K), everytime I saw it I got that song stuck in my head . . .
b-double-e-double-r-u-n ... beer run!
/back on topic/
Therm8,
I believe that the question of possibly using a CVT like transmission was asked a ways back ... but it would of added too much cost to keep the the axial kit competitive.
Now if cost were no object . . .
#2512
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Originally Posted by RX8 Wannabe
/going off topic (again)/
Swoope,
I'm impressed - figuring out someones work ethic from just that ... (granted that same work ethic drives my wife nuts sometimes - after 10 years of married life, I think I've got that whole work/home balance thing worked out pretty well . . . er . . . at least until she decides I'm wrong :-)
Swoope,
I'm impressed - figuring out someones work ethic from just that ... (granted that same work ethic drives my wife nuts sometimes - after 10 years of married life, I think I've got that whole work/home balance thing worked out pretty well . . . er . . . at least until she decides I'm wrong :-)
still hope one day to find out what the actual problem was with the yellow car.
beers
#2513
Bummed, but bring on OU!
Originally Posted by RX8 Wannabe
Therm8,
I believe that the question of possibly using a CVT like transmission was asked a ways back ... but it would of added too much cost to keep the the axial kit competitive.
Now if cost were no object . . .
I believe that the question of possibly using a CVT like transmission was asked a ways back ... but it would of added too much cost to keep the the axial kit competitive.
Now if cost were no object . . .
And this guy seems to have come up with an idea to eliminate most of the inefficiency associated with CVTs: http://www.andersoncvt.com/howitworks.html
#2515
Race Steward
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The interesting thing is, RAP has a CVT transmission in his big ***** test stand he uses to spin the blower and do his measurements. I've seen it, and the blower, in action. Refer to some pics of mine from ages ago. That was the day torque disappeared. Thankfully, my twin screw project has found an abundance of torque :p
Cheers,
Hymee.
Cheers,
Hymee.
#2516
About 1989 I was looking at a proposed CVT from ZF of Germany. It was about the right size. At that time it was mechanicly controled. Today it could be electronic and be wired right into the ECU. ZF never went foward with it to my knowlage.
I only have this one life to give to supercharging and it's winding down soon. A big company that wanted to put the resorces into this could make some progress.
As to the car, NO it has never been fixed.
I only have this one life to give to supercharging and it's winding down soon. A big company that wanted to put the resorces into this could make some progress.
As to the car, NO it has never been fixed.
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Originally Posted by Richard Paul
I only have this one life to give to supercharging and it's winding down soon.
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Originally Posted by Richard Paul
I only have this one life to give to supercharging and it's winding down soon. A big company that wanted to put the resorces into this could make some progress.
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
Hymee I hope you found torque. Weren't you the one that lost him in the first place? ![Wink](https://www.rx8club.com/images/smilies/wink.gif)
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We're still thankful Richard's dogma was not run over by karma.
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#2523
Originally Posted by rotarygod
You'd better hurry up and teach me what you know so I can continue the tradition after you are gone of never having a sellable completed product ready!
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I could die a happy man knowing that Fred would continue development work and be sure to never sell anything. I could just put it in some kind of trust that stipulates all those things. It could be passed down until the world ends.
The ultimate brain trust.
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