Axial Flow Supercharger
02-12-2006, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by kristopher_d
While no one wants a rush job, if the Super Charger is ready, then right BUSINESS choice would be to market with a piggy back system.
I will guarentee that sales have been lost due to the wait.
Maybe the Interceptor is working out as a good piggy-back, but otherwise, the piggy-back systems for the RX-8 aren't encouraging. Band-aid solutions at best...
02-12-2006, 10:03 AM
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I was at Axialflow, I did see the supercharger mounted on a 13b engine. No BS from Richard. If the supercharger is going to be as good as the shifter, it will be another quality product for Axialflow. Thanks again..........
02-12-2006, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by jrb_dakine
I was at Axialflow, I did see the supercharger mounted on a 13b engine. No BS from Richard. If the supercharger is going to be as good as the shifter, it will be another quality product for Axialflow. Thanks again..........
You have to do better than this
02-12-2006, 11:55 AM
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Ok, what was going on was a unit was spining on the test rig and the first front inlet unit was mounted on the spare engine. The new front inlet unit also has a new mounting system where it is raised up and the stock oil fill manifold is reinstalled. This part is a pain to replace as it has several functions. So now they remain standard.
There is a discharge fixture on the blower waiting for a 3" elbow to be welded on it. We cut the stock manifold up to see how everything will work. If the damn thing were aluminum it would work by just cutting and welding here and there. I'll get you a picture.
There is no hood clearance problem but it may require a new strut brace. Dunno yet. The front volute is in billet so there is alot of excess material on it but we will try and trim some off before it goes in the car.
We ran the test unit well into the late afternoon just taking temp and pressure readings. Basicly putting some miles on it and reinforcing our prior numbers.
I haven't ploted the results yet. (We are poor and have no data board, just write them down) Hand do the calcs. Well Dana had a little program built into his calculator but he dropped it and now it's gone.
Hey Turbine_pwr, didn't you tell me there were some sort of programs I can get for free on the net??
I'll go in today and get you some pictures. I know you like pictures. God knows if it is worth me not typing a thousand words per, then I should do it.
There is a discharge fixture on the blower waiting for a 3" elbow to be welded on it. We cut the stock manifold up to see how everything will work. If the damn thing were aluminum it would work by just cutting and welding here and there. I'll get you a picture.
There is no hood clearance problem but it may require a new strut brace. Dunno yet. The front volute is in billet so there is alot of excess material on it but we will try and trim some off before it goes in the car.
We ran the test unit well into the late afternoon just taking temp and pressure readings. Basicly putting some miles on it and reinforcing our prior numbers.
I haven't ploted the results yet. (We are poor and have no data board, just write them down) Hand do the calcs. Well Dana had a little program built into his calculator but he dropped it and now it's gone.
Hey Turbine_pwr, didn't you tell me there were some sort of programs I can get for free on the net??
I'll go in today and get you some pictures. I know you like pictures. God knows if it is worth me not typing a thousand words per, then I should do it.
02-12-2006, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Nemesis8
I would like to keep my Mazdaspeed strut tower brace at all costs.
02-12-2006, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Nemesis8
I would like to keep my Mazdaspeed strut tower brace at all costs.
No one is going to take it away from you. It just might wind up hanging on the wall behind your desk.
All joking aside it may just clear. I can't say for sure untill it's in the car, it's that close. Now if in fact it offers more clearance then everyone might have to get one.
Of course the one I build will be in the kit and be cheaper anyway.
Then again it will match the carbon fiber inlet adapter on front of the SC.
A little tease for you.
02-12-2006, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Aseras
you want a rushed piece of crap? Seems to me the supercharger is done it's the integration that is being delt with. The ecu/managment and install are where the finesse is at. Building something is cake,. making it integrate well with a "black box" isn't.
02-12-2006, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Nemesis8
Now you did it 
, where does the inlet adapter suck in air from?
, where does the inlet adapter suck in air from?How did I know it would be you?
Got your interest huh?
When I get a way to transfer the pictures I just took you will see the light.
My computer at home sucks so I can't get the pictures from the camera into it. I was going to email them from the shop but I cant find a send button on that one.
I'm an idiot OK? Anyway Dana is on his way in and he can mail them to me then I'll mail them to someone like Ajax to post up for me. It might take a couple hours but it should be tonight. I have a backup in the way of a girlfriend who does comp work for a living coming in tonight to Burbank airport from up state. She will be late but that's the backup.
02-12-2006, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard Paul
No one is going to take it away from you. It just might wind up hanging on the wall behind your desk.
All joking aside it may just clear. I can't say for sure untill it's in the car, it's that close. Now if in fact it offers more clearance then everyone might have to get one.
Of course the one I build will be in the kit and be cheaper anyway.
Then again it will match the carbon fiber inlet adapter on front of the SC.
A little tease for you.
All joking aside it may just clear. I can't say for sure untill it's in the car, it's that close. Now if in fact it offers more clearance then everyone might have to get one.
Of course the one I build will be in the kit and be cheaper anyway.
Then again it will match the carbon fiber inlet adapter on front of the SC.
A little tease for you.
02-12-2006, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by kristopher_d
While no one wants a rush job, if the Super Charger is ready, then right BUSINESS choice would be to market with a piggy back system. That was the plan mentioned more than several months ago, and recent developments with regard to reflashing the stock ECU are, at present, strictly speculative. There is, without a doubt, such a thing as over perfecting. Yes, reflashing the stock ECU would be ideal, but not an absolutely component. I will guarentee that sales have been lost due to the wait. Especially the wait with no indication of the wait ending. I know the engineers want it to be absolutely perfect before it goes to market. I also know that when companies wait to "perfect" a product, they sell considerably fewer of the product than the marketing types expect because the people who simply want the benefits offered will find another supplier. Anyone who gets upset when target dates aren't met is bound to get upset regardless, so give us a target date. There is less than ZERO risk in publishing "target" dates. There is huge risk in silence. The engineer in me sympathizes. The businessman in me hasn't become impatient, yet, but that's more due to a lack of funds on my end than anything else.
02-12-2006, 10:26 PM
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Harumph! Ask not what your fellow RX-8ers can do for you, but what you can do for your fellow RX-8ers 
It is incredibly easy to sit on the sidelines and take pot-shots. My advice: resist that temptation
02-12-2006, 11:17 PM
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There are just some Texans........... Wait, I can't say that.... I spent a lot of time there. Gainsville, Denton. Another time.
I got some pictures off to Ajax who usually does these things for me. There are pictures that will show we have not been playing hookie. So don't dock my pay.
After they are posted I will make comments on them.
I think you'll like the progress. And it's speeding up from here, the manifold should be done in a couple of weeks maybe less.
I wil go through the other side of the blower when you can see what it looks like.
I got some pictures off to Ajax who usually does these things for me. There are pictures that will show we have not been playing hookie. So don't dock my pay.
After they are posted I will make comments on them.
I think you'll like the progress. And it's speeding up from here, the manifold should be done in a couple of weeks maybe less.
I wil go through the other side of the blower when you can see what it looks like.