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Old 04-16-2006, 11:14 PM
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Good pics. Sorry I couldn't post them. I've been doin the Easter thing all weekend and I've only been checking one of my 2 gmail accts, not the one richard likes to email, lol.
I've updated him with the appropriate account, hehe.
Good to see this is still moving.

Richard,
Any news on engine management?
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Originally Posted by Nemesis8
This is the non intercooled setup, right?


We don't think we need one on a street setup. We use efficiency instead.
Engine managment? Hopefully use a flash in production, we will use a stand alone for the prototype.
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wow,

very very wow.

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Old 04-17-2006, 03:52 AM
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Out of curiosity, what would be a theoretical horsepower gain that might be achieved with one of these on an 8? Not something set in stone, but I'm just wondering what the power difference would be when it's all said and done from say a twin-screw, or centrifugal compressor.
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So in what step are we now??When will this sc kit comes out for orders??And i am also curious about the theoritical +whp???
Old 04-17-2006, 01:34 PM
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When the results don't match the theory, get a new theory.
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When the results don't match the theory, get a new theory.
well said.
Old 04-18-2006, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard Paul
We don't think we need one on a street setup. We use efficiency instead.
Engine managment? Hopefully use a flash in production, we will use a stand alone for the prototype.


Man, this looks very simple to maintain. All I need is a spare drive belt! On the suction side of the blower, are you going to pipe the inlet thru the front clip opening where the existing intake pulls air from?
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richard - you're gonna shave some of that voloute for the production pieces right? looks a tad thick
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I'd like to take about 3 lbs off of it. To get it right down there it will take a casting.

I don't know yet where that piping is going to wind up yet. We were just looking at that tonight.
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Wow , a custom flash for the supercharger. Mm..knowing that all cars are not created equal. You would still need fine tuning to get it to optimised. About the standalone, will you be pushing that out too at a later date ? May be even a harness spacer so you don't have to chop up your original harness after you added on standalone .
Would love to hear how you wired in the motec to run with the OEM PCM may be you can pm me about it ..hehe.. :P
Old 04-19-2006, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by SomeGuy_sg
Would love to hear how you wired in the motec to run with the OEM PCM may be you can pm me about it ..hehe.. :P
I think the MoTeC comment belongs in the Hymee supercharger thread?? We take full control of fuelling and ignition (leading and trailing) with the MoTeC wiand leace the factory ECU running everything else. ABS, DSC, TC etc all functioning per normal. All with a "plug and play" harness = no splicing/cutting the factory loom.

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so can I get your supercharger for use here in the states, say as an off road vehicle application?
Old 04-19-2006, 05:37 PM
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You can take what my mate Hymee says to the bank.
The cars are very near equal contrary to popular opinion.
I have it on authority that random Rx8 engines put out 215-220 HP
on the engine dyno. That's damn close. Close enough so a common map
can work. The factory thinks so anyway. Or else they couldn't produce it.

Can you optimize the last 2% out of it? Maybe, but I doubt it. That 2% is more likely in the internals. And for a mass produced engine you can't expect any better.
50 years ago there was probably 10% delta, or more. For sure in the british engines.
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weird i thought i posted a remark about flashes working perfectly fine - your giving the car a new set of instructions and the pcm is able to adapt enough to take away nearly all the vriances from car to car like small differences in injectors etc. etc etc

apparently i didnt click "post reply" correctly. well if you search my posts on this subject you find more remarks about this.
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Hey Zoom44, will this be the first 200 page thread?
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i think so... unless i lock it now and make you start a new one
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Oooh oooh 200 pages, ok here is a bump for that haha
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I'll be 200 years old before Richard lets me play
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Originally Posted by djgiron
Oooh oooh 200 pages, ok here is a bump for that haha

Ya think not? The news is that we are putting it in the car next week or the week after. Depends on when we get the CF parts in.
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Thanks RP, we are all behind you - so break a leg, but just don't break the speed limit on highway 118.
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Originally Posted by Richard Paul
Hey Zoom44, will this be the first 200 page thread?
It's longer than "Klegg's Blog". That is at 177 pages.
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Ausse Lounge is at 220 pages.
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Its 75 pages for me
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Hey Richard, I was just wondering, since you can make AF compressors, have you ever added a combustion chamber and an exhaust turbine and made a full, running, standalone jet engine? Sorry if it's been asked already but we're coming up on 200 pages and I have the attention span of a fruit fly.


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