Axial Flow Supercharger
08-01-2004, 04:36 PM
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ok, WTF. I at last finish reading this thread. does anyone see what's wrong with that. Soooo, I propose we talk about about something else till we get any up date or Omnicron stop's us. I'll start, I saw a post about SSR's turbo kit for the 8. I visited the site, it said it was going to come august 1st. guess what day it is. here the site http://www.ssr-engineering.com/
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08-01-2004, 05:00 PM
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I've talked to Richard. He has been very busy working on the project and hasn't had much time to be online. The more he is here, the less he is working on the supercharger.
08-01-2004, 06:59 PM
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Unfortunately I am not authorized to speak for Richard. The only thing I can tell you is that he is working on it and making progress. As he said before, the first unit he built made too much boost for the intended application so he is revising that. Beyond that I can't say anymore. He will get on here and post updates from time to time. They just aren't going to be daily updates. More along the lines of weekly or every few days.
08-02-2004, 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
Unfortunately I am not authorized to speak for Richard. The only thing I can tell you is that he is working on it and making progress. As he said before, the first unit he built made too much boost for the intended application so he is revising that. Beyond that I can't say anymore. He will get on here and post updates from time to time. They just aren't going to be daily updates. More along the lines of weekly or every few days.
08-02-2004, 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by NavyFord18
ok, WTF. I at last finish reading this thread. does anyone see what's wrong with that. Soooo, I propose we talk about about something else till we get any up date or Omnicron stop's us. I'll start, I saw a post about SSR's turbo kit for the 8. I visited the site, it said it was going to come august 1st. guess what day it is. here the site http://www.ssr-engineering.com/
08-04-2004, 07:47 PM
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Here's what I've been up to. We have been running some better tests with the two compressors. We now have flow equipment added to our test bench.
With what we have learned and using Hymee's chart there are some places that the compressor can be improved. I can bend the curve to a certain extent.
I can tell you one thing I have learned. A lot of people have said the rotary doesn't use the air the same as a piston engine. They are right. There will be a process that takes about two or three weeks to come up with a new compressor design.
Better to get it close now then after it is in the car. The good news is that it works, blows air and doesn't blow up. There is a lot of work to do on the ducting. I think there will be a lot of different designs from a lot of different tuners. I am happier then ever as to the match that will be had with my blower and the rotary.
What do those aftermarket intakes look like?? Are there any pictures to be had and design specs?? Would they be more compatable as far as room is conserned?
Richard
With what we have learned and using Hymee's chart there are some places that the compressor can be improved. I can bend the curve to a certain extent.
I can tell you one thing I have learned. A lot of people have said the rotary doesn't use the air the same as a piston engine. They are right. There will be a process that takes about two or three weeks to come up with a new compressor design.
Better to get it close now then after it is in the car. The good news is that it works, blows air and doesn't blow up. There is a lot of work to do on the ducting. I think there will be a lot of different designs from a lot of different tuners. I am happier then ever as to the match that will be had with my blower and the rotary.
What do those aftermarket intakes look like?? Are there any pictures to be had and design specs?? Would they be more compatable as far as room is conserned?
Richard
08-04-2004, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard Paul
What do those aftermarket intakes look like?? Are there any pictures to be had and design specs?? Would they be more compatable as far as room is conserned?
Richard
Richard
here's AEM's marketing bullcrap link
here is an Injen brand "race division" intake
nothing to it, they can be whatever you want, Richard.
08-04-2004, 10:48 PM
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And I thought intake ment they were replacing the primary composite part of the stock intake. Just the air cleaner adapter is no help. We need to make space in there for the blower. The cast aluminum part stays but up to there has to go custom
08-04-2004, 11:47 PM
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Is some way we can have a picture with the compressor in the car i know this is asking a shi.... load but i would love to see how this compressor the size of a damn wd40 can will look in the car PLEEZE i would love to see it
Doug thanks rp.
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08-05-2004, 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Richard Paul
And We need to make space in there for the blower. The cast aluminum part stays but up to there has to go custom
08-05-2004, 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by magixpuma
Is some way we can have a picture with the compressor in the car i know this is asking a shi.... load but i would love to see how this compressor the size of a damn wd40 can will look in the car PLEEZE i would love to see it
Doug thanks rp.
Doug thanks rp.
08-05-2004, 02:21 PM
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I would only remove the upper part of the manifold because it is in the way. It is a good part and there is a lot of work in something like that. On the other hand I beleive Rotarygod is thinking of making it a little longer so as to tune more low end into it.
That will take a bit of work all by itself and I for one would not want to have to do it. Lucky for me when supercharged there is a lot of freedom in a pressurized duct.
It will be a bunch easier then trying to tune some more torque from it unblown. RG I think your what they call a glutten. If that is spelled right.
I believe that there is so much science in the Mazda intake and exhaust tuning that only the most experienced and well equiped persons should attempt to improve on it. Persons other then those should check their egos first.
I have learned the very hard lesson not to think you are so smart that you can go into another man's area and beat him. Does anyone out there really think they could just get into a NASCAR engine and build one that would even qualify? That is not to bring into question something hard like Formula One.
No, the Mazda factory is the only place where the money and need exists to develop rotarys. Someone has as their signiture to the effect that if all or even a few car companys were working on this where would we be. Think about that, one tiny car company with limited resorces is the only place this has been studied. Independant tuners for sure help but they can't go in and design major changes to experament with. Only factorys can do that. So before you want to know why there arent a lot of aftermarket parts out there yet, think about it.
Next it is easier for me to tell you why there are no pictures of my s/c in an RX 8 yet. Before an actual car installation is attempted everything else has to be done. We have to have the packaging figured out and the parts built. We all know it will be a lot of work making the engine managment work. So before we take a perfectly usable car and reduce it to a lot of little parts on the bench we need everything else well along if not final.
If you want I will take your car apart and start fitting things while we do the rest of the development. I just can't tell you when all the other things will be done. Or if all the problems will ever be solved. That is when we will put your car back together. If you can live with that I will entertain taking it off your hands.
If your real good with computers you could morf (?) one in. That can be done so well you could never tell it was fake. I have a son who can do those things so watch me real carfully when I do post pictures.
As to the Weber question, I'm with you. I would love it if we could go back to the old days before absolutly everything was controled by some mini microprosseor. I have a bench with a bunch of compartmentised boxes on it. All containing hundreds of Weber tuning parts. Be nice to have a use for them. But alas you can never go home again. . Everything on the car from the time you open the door is in that black box. In the end of course we are all better off for it but I can still complain. There is no way the power and reliability of modern engines would be possable without the engine managment systems. In racing as well as road cars.
RAP
That will take a bit of work all by itself and I for one would not want to have to do it. Lucky for me when supercharged there is a lot of freedom in a pressurized duct.
It will be a bunch easier then trying to tune some more torque from it unblown. RG I think your what they call a glutten. If that is spelled right.
I believe that there is so much science in the Mazda intake and exhaust tuning that only the most experienced and well equiped persons should attempt to improve on it. Persons other then those should check their egos first.
I have learned the very hard lesson not to think you are so smart that you can go into another man's area and beat him. Does anyone out there really think they could just get into a NASCAR engine and build one that would even qualify? That is not to bring into question something hard like Formula One.
No, the Mazda factory is the only place where the money and need exists to develop rotarys. Someone has as their signiture to the effect that if all or even a few car companys were working on this where would we be. Think about that, one tiny car company with limited resorces is the only place this has been studied. Independant tuners for sure help but they can't go in and design major changes to experament with. Only factorys can do that. So before you want to know why there arent a lot of aftermarket parts out there yet, think about it.
Next it is easier for me to tell you why there are no pictures of my s/c in an RX 8 yet. Before an actual car installation is attempted everything else has to be done. We have to have the packaging figured out and the parts built. We all know it will be a lot of work making the engine managment work. So before we take a perfectly usable car and reduce it to a lot of little parts on the bench we need everything else well along if not final.
If you want I will take your car apart and start fitting things while we do the rest of the development. I just can't tell you when all the other things will be done. Or if all the problems will ever be solved. That is when we will put your car back together. If you can live with that I will entertain taking it off your hands.
If your real good with computers you could morf (?) one in. That can be done so well you could never tell it was fake. I have a son who can do those things so watch me real carfully when I do post pictures.
As to the Weber question, I'm with you. I would love it if we could go back to the old days before absolutly everything was controled by some mini microprosseor. I have a bench with a bunch of compartmentised boxes on it. All containing hundreds of Weber tuning parts. Be nice to have a use for them. But alas you can never go home again. . Everything on the car from the time you open the door is in that black box. In the end of course we are all better off for it but I can still complain. There is no way the power and reliability of modern engines would be possable without the engine managment systems. In racing as well as road cars.
RAP
Last edited by Richard Paul; 08-05-2004 at 02:32 PM.