Axial Flow Supercharger
11-09-2006, 04:05 PM
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On a serious note, I'm thinking about getting the Rotary Performance (RP) Supercat midpipe.
I have the Mazdaspeed Dual Sport Exhaust.
I know not to buy an intake, since one will be included in the kit, but would it be beneficial to get the RP Supercat?
I have the Mazdaspeed Dual Sport Exhaust.
I know not to buy an intake, since one will be included in the kit, but would it be beneficial to get the RP Supercat?
11-09-2006, 04:13 PM
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depends.... whats the mazdaspeed piping size? if its bigger then stock then yes. the supercat is 3" and the cat they use flow over 650CFM (i think thats what they told me).
an SCed rotary still benefits from a free flowing exhaust
an SCed rotary still benefits from a free flowing exhaust
11-09-2006, 04:28 PM
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I think Pettit has commented on this for their SC. I would think we would have similar issues with running boost of any sort and a cat.
11-09-2006, 04:42 PM
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Ghost: I remember hearing people complain that some of their RP supercats were going out in 10-20K miles!
11-09-2006, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by gh0st
depends.... whats the mazdaspeed piping size? if its bigger then stock then yes. the supercat is 3" and the cat they use flow over 650CFM (i think thats what they told me).
an SCed rotary still benefits from a free flowing exhaust
an SCed rotary still benefits from a free flowing exhaust
11-09-2006, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by gh0st
ill look for it but i think ive seen a few posts where the cats are burning out on those units. you might wanna read up on it before you spend the money
11-09-2006, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard Paul
All this about waiting for the warranty to run out is silly. A car is the most fun when it is new, not getting the most enjoyment from it then is a false economy.
So just think about the years your taking off your own life by being upset everytime some econo box beats you up to freeway speed from the on ramp. And you feel embarased on Mazdas behalf. Give your heart a break and supercharge.
So just think about the years your taking off your own life by being upset everytime some econo box beats you up to freeway speed from the on ramp. And you feel embarased on Mazdas behalf. Give your heart a break and supercharge.
11-09-2006, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard Paul
All this about waiting for the warranty to run out is silly. A car is the most fun when it is new, not getting the most enjoyment from it then is a false economy.
What will fail that would have been dealer repaired? Baring you tuning a stupid tune into it your not likely to destroy the engine.
Like the dealer above said it would have to be SC related to be refused. And so what if it does, you still had fun and can rebuild the engine for a reasonable amount compared to piston engines.
The only real excuse you have is the CARB problem. That is something that we want to do and I can't tell you how long it will take but there is no reason it can't. Right now our car will pass everything but the visual test. If your state uses a sniffer test then your fine.
BTW, University Mazda gets the world dealer award for fine (and honest) service.
So just think about the years your taking off your own life by being upset everytime some econo box beats you up to freeway speed from the on ramp. And you feel embarased on Mazdas behalf. Give your heart a break and supercharge. I wonder if that could be a medical expense, thus tax deductable.
What will fail that would have been dealer repaired? Baring you tuning a stupid tune into it your not likely to destroy the engine.
Like the dealer above said it would have to be SC related to be refused. And so what if it does, you still had fun and can rebuild the engine for a reasonable amount compared to piston engines.
The only real excuse you have is the CARB problem. That is something that we want to do and I can't tell you how long it will take but there is no reason it can't. Right now our car will pass everything but the visual test. If your state uses a sniffer test then your fine.
BTW, University Mazda gets the world dealer award for fine (and honest) service.
So just think about the years your taking off your own life by being upset everytime some econo box beats you up to freeway speed from the on ramp. And you feel embarased on Mazdas behalf. Give your heart a break and supercharge. I wonder if that could be a medical expense, thus tax deductable.
11-09-2006, 08:57 PM
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I have the RP super cat and the Hymee catback plus a resonator added. I don't have any reason to think it will fail but I only have about 2000 miles on it. We did have the exhaust off the other day and I looked inside, the cat looked new.
I also can't say for sure, but instinct says this one runs cooler then stock.
We did not add an extra hanger as some have done. Strange but it didn't rattle when first installed but after we had it off the other day it did???
This tells me there is a right and wrong way to install it. I'll let you know on this as soon as we figure out what it is.
I also can't say for sure, but instinct says this one runs cooler then stock.
We did not add an extra hanger as some have done. Strange but it didn't rattle when first installed but after we had it off the other day it did???
This tells me there is a right and wrong way to install it. I'll let you know on this as soon as we figure out what it is.
11-09-2006, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Jedi54
Ghost: I remember hearing people complain that some of their RP supercats were going out in 10-20K miles!
I wonder if that's why they have the new design?
By the way Ceasar you hav eto have a CAT in most states.
I think think the SC will make the car run leaner and dump less fuel down the cat to cool it. It's been known that too much fuel is causing stock cats to burn out. The higher flow of RP will handle a SC no?
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11-09-2006, 10:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by X-SIN-X
Questions.
1) How much will the SC cost?
2) When will the SC be available for purchase?
3) HP #'s?
That was answered 3 pages ago.
I read the last four pages and found nothing. Care to fill us in?
There is a very low signal to noise ratio on this thread.
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Originally Posted by X-SIN-X
Questions.
1) How much will the SC cost?
2) When will the SC be available for purchase?
3) HP #'s?
That was answered 3 pages ago.
Originally Posted by rotarygod
That was answered 3 pages ago.
There is a very low signal to noise ratio on this thread.
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11-09-2006, 11:42 PM
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"The AFSC is very close to being done, and he is just working out some tuning bugs.
The SC will come with a tool to reflash the stock ECU to RP's preset maps.
He did not give me any power or torque numbers, only that he is still tuning it, and the included flash will be 5hp or so less than what the AFSC is capable of, for reliability reasons.
It will cost $4,300
RP estimates that it will be done in a few months."
The SC will come with a tool to reflash the stock ECU to RP's preset maps.
He did not give me any power or torque numbers, only that he is still tuning it, and the included flash will be 5hp or so less than what the AFSC is capable of, for reliability reasons.
It will cost $4,300
RP estimates that it will be done in a few months."
11-10-2006, 08:37 AM
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The only real excuse you have is the CARB problem. That is something that we want to do and I can't tell you how long it will take but there is no reason it can't. Right now our car will pass everything but the visual test. If your state uses a sniffer test then your fine.
11-10-2006, 09:22 AM
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after years of suffering from PTSD (post traumatic stress syndrome) a honest dsm diagnosis after being blown off on the straight-a-ways(my case is still in the appeal stage for ssi)-----this is getting good. I hope to be the 1st in Georgia with this kit. I trust ya and thats why I am a buying. I like sc over turbo (just to clarify that I trust SOME others also).
couple of questions:
1- does your reflash turn the fans on a little earier? If not, can that be done?
2- does the strut bar have a master cylinder brace ?
3- does the reflash coordinate with a high flow cat or does it work equally well with the stock cat?
4- does it come with an autographed picture of you? with thumbprints?
5- fuel delivery requirements--stock system ok or do you recommend any upgrades?
6- I assume that running a pre mix would not matter--but may as well ask the expert.
7- where do I send my $10 down payment or would you rather have a really good gallon of family produced legal Georgia Moonshine ? Charder type, then aged and stained through applecores. Smoothhhhhhh. Make you hug your Momma.
To repeat an earier suggestion--an AFSC badge for the trunk area would be really good. It would also look good when an rx8 so equipped makes Grassroots or Modified Mag.
rotor on dude
olddragger
after years of suffering from PTSD (post traumatic stress syndrome) a honest dsm diagnosis after being blown off on the straight-a-ways(my case is still in the appeal stage for ssi)-----this is getting good. I hope to be the 1st in Georgia with this kit. I trust ya and thats why I am a buying. I like sc over turbo (just to clarify that I trust SOME others also).
couple of questions:
1- does your reflash turn the fans on a little earier? If not, can that be done?
2- does the strut bar have a master cylinder brace ?
3- does the reflash coordinate with a high flow cat or does it work equally well with the stock cat?
4- does it come with an autographed picture of you? with thumbprints?
5- fuel delivery requirements--stock system ok or do you recommend any upgrades?
6- I assume that running a pre mix would not matter--but may as well ask the expert.
7- where do I send my $10 down payment or would you rather have a really good gallon of family produced legal Georgia Moonshine ? Charder type, then aged and stained through applecores. Smoothhhhhhh. Make you hug your Momma.
To repeat an earier suggestion--an AFSC badge for the trunk area would be really good. It would also look good when an rx8 so equipped makes Grassroots or Modified Mag.
rotor on dude
olddragger
11-10-2006, 09:23 AM
#4422
Originally Posted by Richard Paul
All this about waiting for the warranty to run out is silly. A car is the most fun when it is new, not getting the most enjoyment from it then is a false economy.
What will fail that would have been dealer repaired? Baring you tuning a stupid tune into it your not likely to destroy the engine.
Like the dealer above said it would have to be SC related to be refused. And so what if it does, you still had fun and can rebuild the engine for a reasonable amount compared to piston engines.
The only real excuse you have is the CARB problem. That is something that we want to do and I can't tell you how long it will take but there is no reason it can't. Right now our car will pass everything but the visual test. If your state uses a sniffer test then your fine.
What will fail that would have been dealer repaired? Baring you tuning a stupid tune into it your not likely to destroy the engine.
Like the dealer above said it would have to be SC related to be refused. And so what if it does, you still had fun and can rebuild the engine for a reasonable amount compared to piston engines.
The only real excuse you have is the CARB problem. That is something that we want to do and I can't tell you how long it will take but there is no reason it can't. Right now our car will pass everything but the visual test. If your state uses a sniffer test then your fine.
My excuse... is I will be done with my 4 year degree.
Present to myself...
By the way have you recorded any audio of the Axial Flow on the 8 to share?
11-10-2006, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by RogueRX8
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I would be willing to pay extra if something like this was also included in the AFSC kit (as an option maybe). This seems very nice and the fact that is touch screen and OPEN (meaning other applications can run on it) would be really cool.
http://www.drewtech.com/products/dashdaq.html
Any comments?
I would be willing to pay extra if something like this was also included in the AFSC kit (as an option maybe). This seems very nice and the fact that is touch screen and OPEN (meaning other applications can run on it) would be really cool.
http://www.drewtech.com/products/dashdaq.html
Any comments?
grr- that brian herron was supposed to email me when that was ready- i didnt know they were showing it at sema. i want something just like this for my hymee scanalyser rather than lugging my laptop. thanks for the link . im going to start a new thread on it.
11-10-2006, 02:24 PM
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So I spent the last 3+ hours reading this post from page 1. After page 165ish I skipped to the end. Can someone give me a quick update on where Richard is with this? It was started in June 2004...wondering if a FI kit is out yet. Doesn't appear to be that way. BTW Richard, I like the work you did on your former blowers. Maybe you can throw something together for the upcoming Challenger. 
It'd be nice to have a "recent, old-school muscle car" with a big blower coming out of the hood!
It'd be nice to have a "recent, old-school muscle car" with a big blower coming out of the hood!
11-10-2006, 02:38 PM
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alrigher, here's the 30 second update:
- SC unit was offically debuted at SevenStock 9 two weeks ago and is getting close to being made available to the public.
-Richard mentioned a few weeks ago that he might be achieving 80-100 rwhp
- Kit will include a new intake. (no, aftermarket ones cannot be used with this kit)
- Will be very competitevely priced
- The system will most likely have your ecu reflashed with preprogrammed maps (2 maps available: street map and a map for those who autocross, etc)
Stay tuned to this thread for more updates.
- SC unit was offically debuted at SevenStock 9 two weeks ago and is getting close to being made available to the public.
-Richard mentioned a few weeks ago that he might be achieving 80-100 rwhp
- Kit will include a new intake. (no, aftermarket ones cannot be used with this kit)
- Will be very competitevely priced
- The system will most likely have your ecu reflashed with preprogrammed maps (2 maps available: street map and a map for those who autocross, etc)
Stay tuned to this thread for more updates.