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Old 02-21-2007, 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard Paul
Drive my truck? Don't think that will help doing a cold test on the Rx8 installation.
Then again if no one else can drive in the snow what's the problen?
It gets cold without snow, doesn't it?
The 8 does great in the snow with snow tires. Ground clearance is the main issue. Stock tires are summer tires, and therefore crap in snow.

So far, I've driven my car in consistent 10-15 degree temperatures, and have started it as low as 7 degrees.

I recommend buying a used set of snow tires and wheels from someone, and then reselling it come next winter (heck, you may come out ahead moneywise).

I'd be concerned that chains may rip up your wheels, but I guess they will give you that traction.
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So long as you have some snow tires and you don't drive the same as you would in the summer, it will be just fine. I drive a company truck in the winter mostly (Cheap buggers wouldn't spring for 4x4) and the 8 handles better :D

Live in Northern British Columbia, Canada btw.
Old 02-22-2007, 01:15 AM
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I confirm with the recent snow in NM, the OEM tires are down right worthless.

It was scary to say the least. Never again.

Literally going 45deg sideways at about 5K RPM, on about a 30deg uphill. Never again.

The worst position I have ever been in a car.
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I wouldn't bother with snow tires or chains. Just watch the weather forecast and pick a day where it hasn't snowed for a few days and isn't going to snow. Then stay on main roads and you should have no issues as they should be basically snow free. But no, I don't drive shinka in the winter.

BTW, I've driven a mustang with bald rear tires(threads showing) through a couple of winters (WI). It's doable if you know how to drive.

Honestly I just wish somebody, anybody, would get any FI setup working without tons of CELs, etc. Then I could be a paying customer too.
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^ Umbra, EMU operates without cels.
Old 02-22-2007, 12:03 PM
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Boy we have been off topic before but this is seriously a new low for this thread.
Old 02-22-2007, 12:08 PM
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ok disregard my last....

I just read the last couple of pages and I see why we are talking about snow tires.


Cold weather AFSC testing with all the snow lately a set of snow tires are going to be a necessity.
Old 02-22-2007, 01:27 PM
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Here's and idea...

Anyone have snow tires to LEND just so we can get this thing moving? Maybe richard would be kind enough to provide a discount or dibbs for the person?

Richard...willing to provide an incentive?
Old 02-22-2007, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard Paul
I talked to someone from Baltamore today and he told me that if it snows at all he drives his truck. He claims the 8 is useless in the snow. Even a little snow. He knew of no way to get around it.

Drive my truck? Don't think that will help doing a cold test on the Rx8 installation.
Then again if no one else can drive in the snow what's the problen?
It gets cold without snow, doesn't it?
Hi Richard,
My recommendation would be to buy a set of 4 snow tires on rims from someone like Tire Rack. The dunlop M3's or the Blizzaks work very well. They'll get you up to the mountain just fine. Then you could put the chains on once you are up there in a parking lot or something. Get them on 17" rims with a slightly narrower treadpatch like a 215. The taller narrower tires do better in snow. A full set on rims is probably around $1200.00

You'll be fine in the snow like that.

Also I would be willing to lend my set of snows to Richard but we'll have to figure out how to ship them and how much it will cost. Richard if you'd be willing to pay for shipping out to you and back to me when you're done I could do it. I"m in Seattle. PM me if you're interested.

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Old 02-22-2007, 05:46 PM
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+1 for the Dunlop M3 Wintersports.

I also drive year round here, in Minnesota.
Old 02-22-2007, 11:01 PM
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This thread has become like the Lounge for Major HP Upgrades
"Off topic" can't even begin to describe it.
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Originally Posted by MrWigggles
Another one bites the dust. The RX-8's ECU is a bitch and Cobb's learning it the hard way. Honestly Trey seems a little aloof in his posts. I think he/they need to gather a little more information from RX-8 community before trying to tackle the beast.

umm, No... they already have it cracked 7 ways from sunday and have reflashed a handful of test cars. In case you didn't know, they are in the process of moving their entire Accesport line from version 1 to version 2... which means sourcing new compnents (which has become the biggest fiasco), writing new instructions/manuals, and dealing with new customer complaints/questions.

they are busy currently servicing their core Subey audiance
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Originally Posted by 4 years to Supercharge
+1 for the Dunlop M3 Wintersports.

I also drive year round here, in Minnesota.

yea, last week i was driving around in 6" of snow/ice with them
Old 02-23-2007, 01:21 PM
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+1 for Pirelli Snow Sport.

As long as the snow doesn't accumulate higher then the clearance on the car I have no major trouble. We just had the first decent snow of the season. The snow doesn't stop me. I'd be happy to test in the snow

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Old 02-23-2007, 07:07 PM
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Richard, I have an extra set of 17x7.5 +30 mm offset aluminum wheels that fit, $150 (no tires). Wheels are straight and true, two are painted black. They are from a 350Z. No rubbing issues up to 235/50/17. All four are 17x7.5, not 17x8 (I'm keeping those). PM if interested. I'll even drop them off in Simi next weekend.


Originally Posted by shaunv74
Hi Richard,
My recommendation would be to buy a set of 4 snow tires on rims from someone like Tire Rack. The dunlop M3's or the Blizzaks work very well. They'll get you up to the mountain just fine. Then you could put the chains on once you are up there in a parking lot or something. Get them on 17" rims with a slightly narrower treadpatch like a 215. The taller narrower tires do better in snow. A full set on rims is probably around $1200.00

You'll be fine in the snow like that.

Also I would be willing to lend my set of snows to Richard but we'll have to figure out how to ship them and how much it will cost. Richard if you'd be willing to pay for shipping out to you and back to me when you're done I could do it. I"m in Seattle. PM me if you're interested.
Old 02-23-2007, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by rotorocks
This thread has become like the Lounge for Major HP Upgrades
"Off topic" can't even begin to describe it.
it's got to the stage that I click on the topic & start reading the posts then my brain says WTF - did I click the wrong thread ?
Old 02-26-2007, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by r0tor
umm, No... they already have it cracked 7 ways from sunday and have reflashed a handful of test cars. In case you didn't know, they are in the process of moving their entire Accesport line from version 1 to version 2... which means sourcing new compnents (which has become the biggest fiasco), writing new instructions/manuals, and dealing with new customer complaints/questions.

they are busy currently servicing their core Subey audiance
Just give me a date baby...

Richard, did you get the impression they had it cracked 7 ways from Sunday?

-Mr. Wigggles
Old 02-26-2007, 03:49 PM
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They haven't released it for any model car other than Subaru. They haven't said what the hold up is, but I believe it will happen.
Old 02-26-2007, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by alnielsen
They haven't released it for any model car other than Subaru. They haven't said what the hold up is, but I believe it will happen.
i don't know what they have released, but i work just down the street from cobb and they sure have alot of cars, besides suburu, in their parking lot with cobb racing stickers on them.
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I have some questions regarding the product.

What will the benefit of the AFSC be in snow?

Is it a replacement for chains?

Since the AFSC has a jet like turbine, will it be more reliable
than a Jet Blue aircraft?

Is there any way I can adapt my Flowbee air powered hair cutting system to make more HP for the RX-8? Or conversely can the AFSC cut hair, or at least provide the vacuum suction
for the Flowbee system in case I need a trim while on the road?

Not that I can afford an AFSC anyway. I spent the money I saving for it on a turntable (that I am serious about!!!)
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An afsc is absolutely a replacement for chains in the snow!
Old 02-27-2007, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
An afsc is absolutely a replacement for chains in the snow!
Who needs traction when you have a turbine?
Old 02-27-2007, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
An afsc is absolutely a replacement for chains in the snow!
thats going in my sig
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im the one who talked to richard about the snow in baltimore. i had to go do a couple things and there was probobly 2-3 inches on the ground and the 8 didnt like it one bit. even on compacted snow if you come to a stop be very careful, when you go to start again the wheels will just spin. if your having trouble in the snow or if you have to move foward from a stoped position i found it easier to start off in second. and if you get stuck try moving around with the dsc off and then on. plus rocking from reverse into 1st. DO NOT go into snow deeper than a soda can with out a cell phone and a shovel. i bought my 8 in november and the first snow within minutes i realized my truck was the way to go
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RP and the rest of you FI guys---please look at the fuel starvation thread in the aftermarket section. 1st set of studies on the fuel pump are in. There is a huge difference in the flow rates between the pumps (a symptomatic one at 36K and a new one). The FI REALLY need to know this. The study is not complete as to the causation but it is either the pump itself giving out or maybe premix causing the filters to clog. Too repeat--final studies are not complete but Houston we do have a problem.
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