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Old 04-11-2007, 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by WaitingforFI
Those who work in a shop will like this:
click me, I'm super charged
There was a booth at Sevenstock 8 that had these in it. There were several different kinds of engines and they all ran. Really cool.
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And while thats all good and dandy...yes I said dandy...I cant help but feel like I got major HP-Blueballs...

COBB supposedly is around the corner...but nothing for sure yet...one day...one day...

Till then I'll be fapping away at rx-8 photochopped dyno pr0n...this time around I'll be sure to use royal purple to prevent blistering...

Old 04-11-2007, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
Noise cancellation at a certain frequency. It's not a power tuning device.
"Downstream of the air cleaner is a resonance chamber that acoustically pumps in more air and adds a few more horsepower."

RX-8, Jack Yamaguchi pg 61
Old 04-11-2007, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Spin9k
"Downstream of the air cleaner is a resonance chamber that acoustically pumps in more air and adds a few more horsepower."

RX-8, Jack Yamaguchi pg 61
helmholtz resonance
Old 04-11-2007, 09:20 AM
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Like I asked before, do we need this if we are supercharged? I say no since it is for NA.
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it is not on the K&N intake either
Old 04-15-2007, 01:04 PM
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Richard,

Just wondering if you have checked out this thread:

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-major-horsepower-upgrades-93/haltech-interceptor-105397/

About this new EMU running about $900.00 + shipping USD

Product site:
http://www.haltech.com/interceptor.htm



(still expensive, but I might or might not be worth you time. figured I'd post it here for your convenience)

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Old 04-15-2007, 03:40 PM
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he doesn't want some early 1990's technology EMU that has to be tuned for each car indiviually and doesn't have any type of automatic fuel trims to keep the car in tune from changes with age/climate...
Old 04-16-2007, 10:04 AM
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You know, it's time someone Officially connected with this project checked in. The silence is becoming deafening. I've been waiting patiently, but with the blower design supposedly finished we're still not getting anything resembling an estimate in HP gains, the possibility of making pulley adjustments for more extreme performance, or anything else of import. From all accounts this is a really COOL piece of kit, but COOL isn't enough to budget against.

So how 'bout it. You don't need a working flash to determine the available HP gains. Estimates should be easily mathed. If it isn't going to happen say so. Again, the silence is deafening.
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t was said just below 300whp something between 280 and 290+ for the the first pulley maybe more later.
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dont know if you guys havde tried to go to the axial flow website but ive tried all morning and im getting a "this page cannot be displayed" message....all my other websites are loading. either way its time to face the facts .....this isnt going to happen. i believe richard gave it his best but in the end couldnt put all the pieces together. its a shame i was really looking foward to his SC. you guys can bitch at me all you like for saying it but how long has it been since his last update? it doesnt take much to log on and let someone know whats up. hell i wanted this to happen as much as anyone else.

this sux

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I wouldn't call this dead untill well after the release of the Cobb tuning unit.....
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Richard himself has admitted numerous times that he isn't very "tech saavy" so I wouldn't put too much stock into the fact that his website is down.

It has been a while since we've gotten an update though...
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thats what im saying, hes knows were all waiting .......giving us an update only takes a second. even if he was having an issue and ran into a problem....just let us know, ya know?........but nothing.
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You've never seen him type! He literally types one finger at a time and even then he takes a while to find each letter.
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Richard uses dail-up and one finger types really slowly, so it takes him a while to type even a short reply. He has also gone "missing" before. So, there is no solid sign that it is dead.

Not only is the blower design finished, it has been manufactured and installed in his car. And he has been driving it around for quite some time now.

The supercharger is ready and waiting. It is waiting for affordable engine management.

Originally Posted by r0tor
he doesn't want some early 1990's technology EMU that has to be tuned for each car indiviually and doesn't have any type of automatic fuel trims to keep the car in tune from changes with age/climate...
In responce:

Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Haltech is/was the state of the art for a long time.
I haven't looked at this unit since it first went into development, but it is likely a better solution than the Microtech since it has more granularity in the software and more configuration options.
Microtech = Interceptor-X

If you have money now you have two main options:

Turbo for ~$11,000
get in line for supercharger ~$7,000

I believe these products and the AFSC have been in development from about the same time. It is pretty natural that something that performs nearly the same, but costs less, will take longer to develop.


Originally Posted by ricky356
thats what im saying, hes knows were all waiting .......giving us an update only takes a second. even if he was having an issue and ran into a problem....just let us know, ya know?........but nothing.

It DOESN'T take him a second. It takes him 30 minutes or more to sign on and write a short reply. And if he is waiting for Cobb then there is nothing for him to report.

EDIT: meant one finger.

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Originally Posted by ricky356
thats what im saying, hes knows were all waiting .......giving us an update only takes a second. even if he was having an issue and ran into a problem....just let us know, ya know?........but nothing.
if he took the time to respond to every post like this it would never get done.

he has better things to do.. this is the same as the mazsport thread..

if you want to wait and learn, do. if not move along.

it will be done when it is done.. and my guess is he will post and tell us when that is..

beers
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Remember that Richard's main job does NOT center around making superchargers. He makes short shifters, pullies, etc...
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Does anyone know if Richard is off on Vacay or something I PM'd him and sent him an e-mail and still no responce. It's urgent.
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I'll try calling him tomorrow.
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One phonecall can prevent 10 emails...

Seriously though, I'm not sure I understand the rush to write this project off by some people? If you have the money and want to go FI RIGHT NOW, then obviously this isn't for you, but no need to be all doom and gloom. If you're willing to wait and you've waited this long, why not wait a little longer?

This just seems a bit negative, and we're here for info, 20+ page tangents on cool engineering, and to say things like "Looking forward to the release!"

And with that...

I'm looking forward to the release!
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I know I've been ignoring you guys but the SC is in fact being worked on. We are producing the componants and updating some things. We have pretty much decided on a beta test person and will do that the instant we have a prototype of the ECU solution.
I don't want to heavy up for sympathy but my mother passed away two months ago and there is a mountain of legal mess for me to handle. This was neglected for years and I should have seen it coming. It's a time and money consuming thing. Get your **** together before you go.

Anyway I finally got a good digital camera that I can work with. A Nikon D80 and it is like working with a SLR film camera. Almost. In fact it is so smart there will be a lot to learn. Next all I have to do now is learn how to work pictures into the computer and size them for the forum.

Don't give up, there are too many parts already made. I'll take pictures. In fact I already went a little nutso and took a bunch of the new shop. Like I said I just need to work them around.

I can't give you guys dyno runs because it still doesn't run right and I'm not going to waste my time tuning the EMU when another product will soon replace it.

Like Rotaygod said we have other things we do to stay alive. That means beside the Rx8 parts. Believe it or not making parts for other industries pays a reasonable income. As much as I love making 8 product there will never be a profit in it. It is too hard and there aren't enough of them out there. These are facts, I'm not bitching. I knew what was going to happen when we started. That's a lie, I never thought it would take this much development.
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Thanks for the update RP .

I think you possibly underestimate the potential demand for a good SC solution for the 8 .Unfortunately I fear Pettit will beat you to it though .......
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The Petite will still cost $7000+. Hopefully the AFSC will be less, though I have no idea how much. Richard is playing it smart and not letting the competition know exactly what he is doing. Unfortunately, that means we end up not knowing as well.
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I think you possibly underestimate the potential demand for a good SC solution for the 8 .Unfortunately I fear Pettit will beat you to it though .......
Yup, and the demand is even smaller if someone else's gear is already installed in many of the cars in the market out there.


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