Axial Flow Supercharger
10-23-2007, 10:46 AM
#5351
btw...its from "Beavis and Butthead: Do America"...
I actually have confidence that Richard will deliver eventually...
I just used that in the AccessPort thread and found it funny enough to reapply here in jest...
I actually have confidence that Richard will deliver eventually...
I just used that in the AccessPort thread and found it funny enough to reapply here in jest...
10-23-2007, 12:18 PM
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I have too many experiments waiting for this thing. I'm holding out hope that the olddragger was just in a mood...
(awww man, now my post count went up to 124! boo! XD)
(awww man, now my post count went up to 124! boo! XD)
10-23-2007, 06:17 PM
#5361
Wow this would suck if it is really dead. This thread was opened on 5/28/04 so that is a long time and I am sure a lot of work put into the supercharger.
I wonder if he will sell off the design to someone else to see if they can bring it to market?
I wonder if he will sell off the design to someone else to see if they can bring it to market?
10-23-2007, 09:04 PM
#5365
Ha...ok...here's what I know...since I've been lurking here for a while and have actually kept up with the story...
The SC itself is ready...the engine manglement has been the issue...
The "magic" bullet here being COBB's AccessPort...
Then its competitively priced, and makes install post-support easier...
Because we would be the "first" group to get this new type SC, he's opting to wait UNTIL after the COBB AP...
You only get ONE shot at making a first impression...and he wants it to be the way he wants...perfect...
It's ultimately his baby, and he's not obviously driven by money because as I debated several "AFSC Pages" ago...
Then he would have been selling it to anyone with an Interceptor and letting everyone potentially blow things up (Because they will) ruining precious credibility...
So...if you want to wait...then wait...if not there's other solutions out there NOW.
Personally...The inner devil's advocate tell's me to wait for COBB...then come back to bitch because then there is NO Excuse...
Till then...I can respect the man and his decision...It's his, and so far why would I distrust someone because I'm impatient? Petty reason...
If I run into something better when its blow my refund time...I at least will ultimately be happy...one way or another...heh
Anyone say anything about warm/fuzzy/aww...I'll find you and make you suck muh harbls...
The SC itself is ready...the engine manglement has been the issue...
The "magic" bullet here being COBB's AccessPort...
Then its competitively priced, and makes install post-support easier...
Because we would be the "first" group to get this new type SC, he's opting to wait UNTIL after the COBB AP...
You only get ONE shot at making a first impression...and he wants it to be the way he wants...perfect...
It's ultimately his baby, and he's not obviously driven by money because as I debated several "AFSC Pages" ago...
Then he would have been selling it to anyone with an Interceptor and letting everyone potentially blow things up (Because they will) ruining precious credibility...
So...if you want to wait...then wait...if not there's other solutions out there NOW.
Personally...The inner devil's advocate tell's me to wait for COBB...then come back to bitch because then there is NO Excuse...
Till then...I can respect the man and his decision...It's his, and so far why would I distrust someone because I'm impatient? Petty reason...
If I run into something better when its blow my refund time...I at least will ultimately be happy...one way or another...heh
Anyone say anything about warm/fuzzy/aww...I'll find you and make you suck muh harbls...
10-23-2007, 10:19 PM
#5368
...the ability to setup the factory ecu to work in a new environment with all the factory sensors, only throwing the appropriate CEL's when something is actually wrong with no added dongles or re-wiring. It makes the car as if it came in the new configuration from the factory. Re-flashing the ECU is absolutely the only way that should be acceptable.
If it weren't so good, it wouldn't have taken the domestic markets by storm the way it did and there wouldn't be such a demand for cobb to expand to so many new markets.
If you want proof of how good it is just go talk to the scoobie guys.
If it weren't so good, it wouldn't have taken the domestic markets by storm the way it did and there wouldn't be such a demand for cobb to expand to so many new markets.
If you want proof of how good it is just go talk to the scoobie guys.
10-23-2007, 10:35 PM
#5369
You're missing my point. The Pettit S/C runs well for many people with the Int-X and Pettit has used the Ultimate in the past. What is it that makes the AFSC so difficult to tune with the same engine management? Three of the forum's best tuners have tried to help RP, to no avail.
10-23-2007, 10:46 PM
#5370
You're missing my point. The Pettit S/C runs well for many people with the Int-X and Pettit has used the Ultimate in the past. What is it that makes the AFSC so difficult to tune with the same engine management? Three of the forum's best tuners have tried to help RP, to no avail.
Nothing makes anything so hard to tune. The proprietor of this machine decided he ONLY wanted to use what he sees as the best engine management option. If I remember correctly from many many pages ago Richard was running his RX8 with one of these piggyback systems (don't remember which - and it was working, but he was not satisfied with it for something that would be ready for mass distribution. I think it is you who is missing some points.
10-23-2007, 10:49 PM
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Richard was using the Int-X AND the Greddy E-manage for some time (this was about a year ago). He was having issues getting it to boost at the right RPM range. I can't remember if it was NOT boosting until 6K or if it was only boosting UNTIL 6K. (richard told me when I was at his shop but I must be losing my memory in my old age...)
I am pretty sure that led him to change some of the physical characteristics of his AFSC and has brought us to where it is today.
I am pretty sure that led him to change some of the physical characteristics of his AFSC and has brought us to where it is today.
10-23-2007, 10:52 PM
#5372
I defer to your genius, Mac. I guess the stories I was told by Mr. Paul himself and those tuners who tried to help him were figments of my imagination. Keep up the good work.
10-23-2007, 11:21 PM
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You will notice that Pettit wanted to do the same thing with their engine management and only released early due to (1) the continued delay of the AP to the market and (2) popular demand by the RX8 community for his product to come to market. You will also notice that first, Pettit stopped using the EMU, and second they are working on getting all their future kits up and running on a flash based engine management so they can move away from the int-X. There must be some compelling evidence for Cam to go in this direction.
Nothing makes anything so hard to tune. The proprietor of this machine decided he ONLY wanted to use what he sees as the best engine management option. If I remember correctly from many many pages ago Richard was running his RX8 with one of these piggyback systems (don't remember which - and it was working, but he was not satisfied with it for something that would be ready for mass distribution. I think it is you who is missing some points.
Nothing makes anything so hard to tune. The proprietor of this machine decided he ONLY wanted to use what he sees as the best engine management option. If I remember correctly from many many pages ago Richard was running his RX8 with one of these piggyback systems (don't remember which - and it was working, but he was not satisfied with it for something that would be ready for mass distribution. I think it is you who is missing some points.
10-23-2007, 11:36 PM
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10-23-2007, 11:38 PM
#5375
You're missing my point. The Pettit S/C runs well for many people with the Int-X and Pettit has used the Ultimate in the past. What is it that makes the AFSC so difficult to tune with the same engine management? Three of the forum's best tuners have tried to help RP, to no avail.
The reason...It WILL be available AFTER its on the market for anyone to do anything they want with...
But the first sales shall be in kits...turn key fool proof kits...
If you screw it up on your own...its your fault...but at least he can say that it works as designed if you use the kit...