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Old 06-30-2004, 04:05 PM
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so long, but yay, an update!
Old 06-30-2004, 05:52 PM
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Originally posted by whosyourbaba
so long, but yay, an update!
On 6/4, Richard said it would be a month before he had any hard data. Even if it's two, I'm impressed. Of course, he still has the actuall vehicle fitment, testing, ecu issues to go...
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Thanks for the update Richard -- it is much appreciated. You have a lot of guys anxiously awaiting a finished product -- but at the same time we want you to really do it right. Just feed us little tidbits as you go.
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I just hope at the first little setback we don't get riled up. There is bound to be a setback or two along the way.
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Yup, and it's apt to be the ECU tuning.
Old 06-30-2004, 11:50 PM
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One quick question from an inexperienced supercharger user. Would you have to retune the ecu differently with a supercharger + aftermarket intake or would it be the same as a supercharger + stock intake?
Old 07-01-2004, 04:42 AM
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I would think it would be the same.
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I doubt very much if the stock intake would even be an option with a supercharger. I would imagine there would be a big pipe and filter on the front of it to flow as much as possible....someone car correct me if I'm wrong, but I doubt all that variable intake tract stuff would be necessary or even desirable in an FI application.

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Old 07-01-2004, 02:08 PM
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The variable length tunning of the stock intake would be unneccesary and mismatched with any FI system.

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I would set it up so that the variable valve system is only operated under boost. That way, when the car is running at part throttle and not under boost, it is still running with the tuning benefit of the tuned system and with max velocity through the only open runners. This would give good off boost response. When positive pressure is realized, all of the valves open and max flow is available that so the compressor can force air into the engine as easily as possible. Best of both worlds. As long as the ecu can automatically adjust fuel/timing maps based on pressure this wouldn't be an issue and a very easy solution.
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sometimes i need more time to post. i was thinking exactly the same thing as rotarygod and if i had got my post in first it would have looked brilliant coming from me and then having him agree
Old 07-01-2004, 05:33 PM
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And that is exactly how we are going to try and do it.

I'm still waiting on the polisher to call. Then I;ll get you the pictures of the Rx8 compressor. Or at least the parts unassembled. Assembly to follow the next day.

He promised me today, but then again he said that yesterday.

It's not my fault!!!!

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Originally posted by zoom44
sometimes i need more time to post. i was thinking exactly the same thing as rotarygod and if i had got my post in first it would have looked brilliant coming from me and then having him agree
You're just trying to make yourself "look" intellignt by saying that!!! j/k
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Originally posted by Richard Paul
And that is exactly how we are going to try and do it.

I'm still waiting on the polisher to call. Then I;ll get you the pictures of the Rx8 compressor. Or at least the parts unassembled. Assembly to follow the next day.

He promised me today, but then again he said that yesterday.

It's not my fault!!!!

Richard
excellent that you are going to try doing it that way! thanks again richard for the update
Old 07-01-2004, 08:48 PM
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Richard,

If you are looking for tuning on the ECU, I have heard rumors of some tuners in south florida that have been able to "crack the code" of the greddy e-manage on mazda's. The most recent car was a protege, I have been following this thread and was wondering if possibly this was a course possible for the ecu tuning. If I am wrong I am sure everyone will let me know.


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Old 07-02-2004, 03:04 PM
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Richard, I've every confidence that the supercharger will be 'the business', and I am anxiously awaiting your pics. I am still a little curious about your intent with regards to tweaking the factory ECU. Would you be prepared to share this??
Also, will this kit be available without the ECU management you have chosen / will develop if your chosen solution proves to be not an appropriate choice for a certain situation.

Thanks again.

P.S. - If all goes O.K. (and I'm sure it will) show me where to sign on the waiting list :D ...
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Originally posted by rotarygod
...As long as the ecu can automatically adjust fuel/timing maps based on pressure...
And therein lies the rub.
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And...
Have you decided on the routing of the supercharger and it's associated components (intercooler, DV, etc..)? I would kinda like to keep my stock covers if that is going to be an option.

Thanks again (again!) .
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Originally posted by Omicron
And therein lies the rub.
It's not a problem for a Motec!
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I am so looking forward to this getting completed

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I know this is a rather noobish question but is this sorta like a plug and play sortof instalation like u hook up a few pipes into the intake with the axial charger and a new piggy back unit can some 1 show me a pic of a car with it. thank you
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no one can show you a pic of a car with one because he hasn't finished making the prototype yet.
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First update in a month was on my birthday...its an omen I can feel it!

But seriously, thanks for the updates. Anxiously awaiting successful completion of yet another strategic assault on my wallet.
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I'm having one hell of a day. If this posts then I'll be supprised. Then I'll go back to my own computer and send the photos

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ooooo photos..


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