If a tuner would put out a better turbo kit then the greddy and PTP kit on the market for a cheaper price better quality parts and engine management would you buy it over the greddy. Im concidering rushing my turbo setup pulling money out of savings and start building a production turbo kit to compete against the ptp and greddy kits. The reason would be to provide a better kit with better pricing that isnt a rip off. I will also be providing base maps with the kits so as soon as you install the kit you will have a good foundation to run off which would save you a bundle on tuning and make your life so much easier.

 

if it all comes out as success

you sir will be my best friend

 

You'd be in like Flynn.

 

The question is kind of stupid if you think about it.
Who wouldn't want better for cheaper.
Real question is how many people will buy a turbo kit.

 

How will it be better? Specifics, please. Otherwise, you are talking out of your ***.

 

Ja, wait till I pass you in my Super Charger

 

Emissions is important to me. If you can make one better and still ensure that it will pass emissions, I would be interested.

 

im still waitng to see that one from ciao from down under

 

depends man -- seems like the Axial flow unit, the PTP Unit, and the Petit unit are nearing completion, if it took them years to get their stuff out, to be honest I would be kinda worried about a kit that was slapped together in 30 or 60 days and rushed out.

I want to go FI soooo badly, but I have to play the waiting game. I know I'm probably going to spend at LEAST $5,000 for parts and installation and im sure more for tuning and misc stuff. For that Kinda money I want the best, and I just know I gotta wait till the Axial flow SC, PTP and Petit units hit the streets and get used/broken in and hear users experiences.

If you pushed something out though, it was cheap, kicked ***, and was reliable, and made some good power, then hell yeah I'd buy it.

 

 

The answer is 100% in the Engine Management you opt for.

I've seen lots of kits come and go, I was (briefly) even prototyping for STS, (the guys who put the turbo in the trunk- STS )

I also watched as the Great Canzoomer built a centrifugal supercharger with magnetic clutch disengagement, in his DRIVEWAY, only to be ultimately defeated by the stock ECU and laissez-fair fuel management.

I consider the PTP to be a little overbuilt (the stainless up-pipe) and a little under engineered (the battery), and like you, WAY overpriced, considering the integral part the (EXTRA $$$) fuel computer plays.

I would love to see a decent kit with a plug-and-play computer for a good price, and will surely be buying a kit when one appears.....


S

 

Yeah, that would sound good if it wasn't just slapped together. I wanted to stick with N/A despite what everyone says but it's really hard to not be enticed with FI. If you could do it and prove it'd be reliable, then I probably would.

 

Definitly yes. But reliability is always a must for me. If I am going to drop 5k plus for a turbo I don't want to have to turn around and drop nother 4k for a new engine, or whatever the cost is.

 

In the world of FI applied to the Renesis, what is the weakest link that needs to be strengthened to ensure motor reliability and longevity?

 

I would only buy an FI setup after 1) my warranty runs out, 2) other people had been running the setup for years with relatively few problems, and 3) the price was $2,000 US or less.

 

Im mixed on this whole FI thing. I mean you could wait till your warranty runs out, but that would leave you with a 50K mile rotary engine that is now being turbo or super charged. I doubt the Ren will run 50K miles trouble free then be bolted up to a FI kit and expected to run care free for another 50K miles. Then again you could go FI within your first 50K, but if your engine has inherited problems not relating to your kit your screwed. I figure im gonna run my engine till it blows, then do a rebuild and then go FI on the new engine.

 

You seem to insinuate that the Renesis is somehow less reliable than the FD, when in fact, it seems to be much more so.

I was under the impression that the Renesis failures have been relatively rare, and that most were paired with ATs and used in desert-heat conditions.

 

The only renesis faiulres I have heard of are in the blown engine club. And I think, if its not automatic, the reason was almost always the greddy turbo. But I am in the same boat as dtorre with FI. Except the last sentence

 

So you're gonna wait 'til the 200,000 mile mark?

 

Ill be using a better turbo, the one ptp initially set out to use but decided not to use becouse of pricing. Namely the GT35R. Also Ive seen alot of people complain abou the battery so Ill adress that

I dont see that happening

no but im sure I can help you out in fooling the emisions

 

yeah we will see what I end up doing for engine management I have most of the peices either in my possesion or on their way theres only a few things that I still have to pan out one of them being engine management

 

I think the end user is the weakest part of the equation in this case, or that the Greddy kit was/is less than complete has gotten a few people also.



As far as engine management, I think you'd be better off releasing a tuner kit and letting everyone just go and source their own management.

 

im going to have to delay the kit because Im going to the middle east. take care every one and hopefully Ill see you all when I finish my tour

 

OK. Stay cool and keep your head down. Which kit were you making, anyway?

 

currently in israel and I have all the peices for my kit waiting at home how gay is that